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El Gallinero Gros posted:I like Rival Schools a bunch, both the video game and band! You might find that Manic Compression leans a bit toward the slightly more "poppy" sound (if you want to call it that) of Rival Schools where Slip is just THIIICCCCCCCCCCCCK. Compare: Slip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzF66hDkFs to Manic Compression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmvbiuzMcWs Both are way more heavy than the Rival Schools albums though and highly recommended. Those CD's never left my car for that whole decade.
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I've been listening to a bunch of old rock lately. Where do I start Rory Gallagher and Bruce Springsteen?
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Jun 12, 2019 21:34
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Siivola posted:Where do I start ... Bruce Springsteen? Two ways you can go about it: If you want to jump right into an amazing album, then Born To Run is my answer, with the 2nd best option being Born in the USA. Then I'd say go back and listen to his other albums from that era. The preferred/best way would be to go through 1973-1987 chronologically, from Greetings From Asbury Park, NJ to Tunnel of Love. That's a run of 8 albums; plenty of variety but without compromising quality. If you'd rather have a one-stop peek, The Essential Bruce Springsteen is fine, but it's missing some of my favorite songs, like "Backstreets".
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Jun 12, 2019 21:56
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Siivola posted:I've been listening to a bunch of old rock lately. Where do I start Rory Gallagher and Bruce Springsteen? Born to Run is by far the most essential Bruce album and has three of the most undeniably great rock songs of all time. After that I would go with its jammier predecessor (The Wild, The Innocent...) and its darker successor (Darkness on the Edge of Town). Born in the USA is worth listening to and it's his best selling album, but it can get pretty mixed responses due in large part to the extremely dated production. It doesn't really sound like anything else in his discography. After all that, if you're converted to the cult of Bruce, come back to us for where to go next.
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Greetings from asbury Park is the good one. The rest are dumb. Edit: and the demos for that album are better than the actual album. Springsteen messes stuff up in the studio. Edit 2: the old live boxed set might be the correct answer here. BigFactory fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Jun 12, 2019 23:55
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For Rory Gallagher, I'm no expert but he was pretty consistent. You can probably go more or less chronologically, though if you're really just in it for the guitar heroics, Irish Tour '74 is great.
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Jun 13, 2019 00:25
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Junpei posted:I re-listened to some pop-punk songs I liked when I was a preteen because I thought they were 'edgy' and 'rebellious' and 'cool'. They're still a little cringy, but they actually hold up a little. But they're mostly singles. So, do blink-182, Sum 41 and Good Charlotte have anything worth listening to on the albums via deep dive? I think Cheshire Cat and Dude Ranch still hold up pretty well, both musically and in terms of not being completely embarrassing to listen to lyrically. Lots of juvenile humor and all, but like... what else would you expect? I did a little revisit of a bunch of my old CDs not too long ago, and their lyrics are definitely a LOT less troubling than a lot of the other stuff I was listening to at the time (looking at you, The Ataris)
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Jun 13, 2019 12:30
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Man, the 90s were such a terrible time for punk rock in retrospect. Garage punk was where all the quality and creativity went - TJSA, New Bomb Turks, Oblivians, Teengenerate. All the hair dye pop punk and Boston-style crossover hc stuff from that era aged horribly.
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Terminally Bored posted:Man, the 90s were such a terrible time for punk rock in retrospect. OTOH, Sleater-Kinney's albums Call The Doctor and Dig Me Out came out in the 90s. (Along with other albums but those are the only two I'd label firmly as punk)
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Jun 13, 2019 14:13
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Yeah, forgot about femi-punk, lots of great stuff there.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:32
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Jawbreaker holds up well. Just pop-punk enough, but still really, really solid. First Jets to Brazil album is worth checking out as well. Blake is a great lyricist and songwriter.
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Jun 13, 2019 23:11
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I remember Discount doing some good stuff around that time.
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I recommend Pegboy. Poppy but not oversly so, melodic as hell. Also, Dillinger Four.
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BigFactory posted:Greetings from asbury Park is the good one. The rest are dumb. The live 75-85 box set is almost entirely beat by the official release of the Hammersmith `75 show, imo. Springsteen is entirely one of those artists I'm likely to spend a page and a half detailing his ups, downs, important eras and starting points, but I am just frankly too tired to do so right now.
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hexwren posted:The live 75-85 box set is almost entirely beat by the official release of the Hammersmith `75 show, imo. That’s why I told him to come back after the easy stuff! Don’t want to intimidate the newbies now.
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I tried Born to Run and Darkness on the Edge of Town, and I'm starting to think the Boss isn't my thing.  I'll make sure to revisit these albums though, they feel like they get better the deeper one dives in.
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Siivola posted:I tried Born to Run and Darkness on the Edge of Town, and I'm starting to think the Boss isn't my thing. Nah, it’s kinda corny stuff. Try the first one though. It’s alright.
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Siivola posted:I tried Born to Run and Darkness on the Edge of Town, and I'm starting to think the Boss isn't my thing. You could try Nebraska, the go-to Bruce album for people who don't like him. It's demo quality folk stuff that's really dark.
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My mom was obsessed with Bruce when I was growing up. She still is. He is someone I respect but most of his albums are not my thing. Too cheesy. Too overproduced. Too long. Etc. As such, if you feel the same as me, I say give Tunnel of Love a try. I feel it has aged extremely well and benefits from all the cheesy overproduced sounds that bother me on the other albums. It’s got filler, but it’s interesting in all its flawed glory Edit. And Nebraska. That one is good too
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I can't remember if I asked this previously, but what about The Tragically Hip?
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Jun 15, 2019 16:47
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hexwren posted:I can't remember if I asked this previously, but what about The Tragically Hip? Up To Here and Day For Night are my favorites.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Up To Here and Day For Night are my favorites. Trouble at The Henhouse for me
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Jun 16, 2019 02:07
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Recommendations for other (any?) EBM bands that have the aggression and punk intensity of Youth Code.
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Criminal Minded posted:Recommendations for other (any?) EBM bands that have the aggression and punk intensity of Youth Code. Not EBM necessarily but you can try out L.O.T.I.O.N. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMMtNf2OE8
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Criminal Minded posted:Recommendations for other (any?) EBM bands that have the aggression and punk intensity of Youth Code. Youth Code (for me) took a lot of influence from the early Nitzer Ebb records. You might check out That Total Age or Belief. 3TEETH might tickle your fancy as well, although I find them sort of one note. Front 242 while more danceable is also a legacy artists that might scratch that itch.
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What are some essential glam/hair metal albums if I just did a deep dive of Motley Crue's discography and loved it?
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Kvlt! posted:What are some essential glam/hair metal albums if I just did a deep dive of Motley Crue's discography and loved it? You're gonna get buried with recs, from people much more knowledgeable than me, but one that I think gets terribly overlooked is Dokken - Back for the Attack
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I haven't bought a hip hop album in literally decades and I feel like this is a huge blind spot in my musical tastes. So: Kanye.
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regulargonzalez posted:I haven't bought a hip hop album in literally decades and I feel like this is a huge blind spot in my musical tastes. So: Kanye. You can basically trace 2000s hip-hop through his body of work since he's typically either capitalizing on trends or starting them. So you can really pick pretty much anything since (in my opinion) it's almost all great (his last one was whatever, though). Yeezus might be a bit abrasive for a newcomer, though. MBDTF is the consensus masterpiece, and quite accessible, so it's as good a starting point as any. My pet Kanye album is Graduation, not because it's necessarily better than his others, but because it's a bit shorter (50 minutes) than most of his albums and more laid-back.
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regulargonzalez posted:I haven't bought a hip hop album in literally decades and I feel like this is a huge blind spot in my musical tastes. So: Kanye. IMO start from the beginning, his discography doesn't dip below a solid 9/10 until The Life of Pablo or ye depending on who you ask. It's also fun to kind of see his progression as an artist and a person. Also if you care to do a deep dive into My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, there's a podcast called Dissect that explains the context of pretty much everything and it made me appreciate that album even more. edit: Criminal Minded posted:Yeezus might be a bit abrasive for a newcomer, though. internet celebrity fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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internet celebrity posted:As a big metal fan, Yeezus is what got me into Kanye (and thus hip hop as a whole) so it's not that bad of a place to start depending on who you are. Yeah, that's true, I have no idea what angle he's approaching this stuff from. I appreciate it for the same reasons.
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Ha for context I mostly listen to post-rock, opera, edm, riot grrrl / fem punk, Big Black, and 80s indie-ish stuff. I'll probably start from the beginning as suggested unless his first album or two are lower quality than the ones right after.
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Start from the beginning like people said. All of his albums are at best good and interesting through Yeezus, and I think most people would agree that at least Dropout and MBDTF are stone cold classics (I'd put 808s in there as well). If you also find a list of the top 4-5 hip hop songs for each year you can give those songs a listen and watch them magically start to follow Kanye's trends, usually with a bit of lag. I also just wanted to point out that a lot of Kanye's influence and success, at least early on, was his production work for other people. I've known quite a few people who "can't stand Kayne" who then would tell me how much they love, for instance, any of these songs: Jay-Z Talib Kweli Common (honestly the entire Be album is basically the Common/Kayne Watch the Throne collab) Twista Royce da 5'9 Lil' Wayne Kid Cudi (also the Kid Cudi/Kanye Kids See Ghosts album from last year is the best thing Kayne has done since Yeezus IMHO) This list could and probably should be longer, but you get the idea. Love him or hate him, he is one of the most influential musicians of the century. Voodoofly fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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Kanye is without any doubt the most overrated rapper of this century, his lines are bad to mediocre. He's a good producer, though. Also a nazi enabler: https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/987696355341553665
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To avoid a really dumb derail... Where should someone start with krautrock? I know Can's Tago Mago is regarded as a masterpiece by fans but is it a good place to start/does it exemplify the genre well?
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internet celebrity posted:To avoid a really dumb derail... Where should someone start with krautrock? I know Can's Tago Mago is regarded as a masterpiece by fans but is it a good place to start/does it exemplify the genre well? Krautrock is a really wide genre style-wise so I'd recommend reading the fantastic Krautrocksampler by Julian Cope first. If you just want some albums then: Faust Tapes The first three Neu! albums Tago Mago is awesome but it goes heavily into mindfuckery in the middle (20 minute improv-explorations) and the best starting point for Can would be Ege Bamyasi.
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I don't know a lot about krautrock, but I do know that Amon Düül II's Phallus Dei is pretty drat good.
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Terminally Bored posted:Krautrock is a really wide genre style-wise so I'd recommend reading the fantastic Krautrocksampler by Julian Cope first. Krautrocksampler has a lot of factual errors as well as Julian Cope's sort of annoying opinions in it because he's a burnout. anyway it's kind of weird to say that he should avoid tago mago because of the 20 minute long improv when that's half the appeal of listening to krautrock in the first place and it's a great album.
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Is there more to Smash Mouth than Shrek memes? Is there an actual band under all that?
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Junpei posted:Is there more to Smash Mouth than Shrek memes? Is there an actual band under all that? No. They might have had a few good singles, and maybe their first album is worth listening to, but there really isn't much depth to their catalog. They had a few hits, but they're all in a similar style. All Star might actually be the song that sounds the most different and not just a 60s garage rock revival. Get a greatest hits if you want more.
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