|
Shageletic posted:Manhattan Project was a good show, though it didn't show too much of the scientific project as it should have. But it did surprisingly alot, especially for being on WGN. Manhattan was a great show, and I’m glad the actors from that are spreading to other things. The creator mentioned that if season 3 happened they would’ve jumped forward to talk about suburbs, as Manhattan project was a remarkably well-built planned community and jump started that idea in post-war America.
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 23:33
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 01:25 |
|
|
just watched this, crazy how a lot of the same mistakes that led the reactor to blow wrt human arrogance and ignorance are also going to destroy the climate and eradicate most of humanity
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 00:13
|
|
|
Doorknob Slobber posted:just watched this, crazy how a lot of the same mistakes that led the reactor to blow wrt human arrogance and ignorance are also going to destroy the climate and eradicate most of humanity Chernobyl (2019) is an extraordinarily optimistic look at climate change because the people responsible force many of the working class to sacrifice their lives to save the rest, instead of just shutting the doors and letting them all die
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 01:44
|
|
|
Something like Chernobyl, but about the Sanitation Movement in the 1800s. Like, honestly, if we had to do something like this today we'd all just die of cholera instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLpzHHbFrHY I can't imagine convincing the Chicago of today that they need to raise the entire city by 15 feet just to keep poor people from dying and then actually doing it. They won't even spend a tenth of a cruise missile on making sure the water doesn't have lead, these days... 
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 01:55
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:We will not have the kind of insider details needed for a show like this for at least another decade. Not really the 737 MAXX already had some great investigative reporting like how Boeing transferred or demoted who raised quality concerns over the rapid program development. Boeing also pitched the plane to airlines and pilots as requiring no special training since it has same handling characteristics as other 737s.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 01:26
|
|
|
I don't know what you guys are smoking, there is no way anyone could get funding to make a high profile docudrama miniseries about any existing huge corporation in this country. The only reason we know dick about Chernobyl is that their entire government collapsed and therefore no one was paid to keep the secrets anymore.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 07:16
|
|
|
itshappening.gif https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/1141581405513641984
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 07:48
|
|
|
Tankies would really like a second season about the Bhopal Disaster (the costs of unregulated capitalism) or atomic-testing related deaths.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 09:45
|
|
|
jeeves posted:I don't know what you guys are smoking, there is no way anyone could get funding to make a high profile docudrama miniseries about any existing huge corporation in this country. That's not really true cause I remember watching a major blockbuster movie about Erin Brokovich some time in the 00s. Xander77 posted:Tankies would really like a second season about the Bhopal Disaster (the costs of unregulated capitalism) or atomic-testing related deaths. Russia already doing a series about how the CIA blew up Chernobyl so I think the tankie demographic is served for now.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 11:27
|
|
|
Xander77 posted:Tankies would really like a second season about the Bhopal Disaster (the costs of unregulated capitalism) This looks like it would be a seriously good candidate, though.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 14:40
|
|
|
A Chernobyl-like series about the Boeing stuff sounds like the most boring thing on earth.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 14:51
|
|
|
Kanish posted:A Chernobyl-like series about the Boeing stuff sounds like the most boring thing on earth. And we already have Air Crash Investigation, which is really good too. I mean it isn't Chernobyl-good, but it is good.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 15:02
|
|
|
Kanish posted:A Chernobyl-like series about the Boeing stuff sounds like the most boring thing on earth. Except for the plane crashes?
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 15:13
|
|
|
Sulphagnist posted:And we already have Air Crash Investigation, which is really good too. Yeah this show is interesting, but to make a multi-episode drama of board meetings and FAA hearings would not make for good tv imo. hobbesmaster posted:Except for the plane crashes? Sure, but they happen right after takeoff, so that'd be a few minutes of "action". To compare to Chernobyl, which had the initial explosion and harrowing aftermath, as well as the liquidation effort lends itself more to a multi-episode docu-drama. Sully was a decent movie, but they had a clear 'hero', and the filmmakers essentially had to create FAA investigation drama to make it into a single movie.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 18:21
|
|
|
Cambridge Analytica would be a good season. The nature of truth, etc
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 18:23
|
|
|
CornHolio posted:This looks like it would be a seriously good candidate, though. good luck getting it funded an activist prankster got on the bbc claiming to be a spokesman for dow chemical, saying the company would take responsibility for the disaster and compensate the victims. dow stock fell 4.5% in minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWlvBro9eI
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 18:30
|
|
|
luxury handset posted:good luck getting it funded glorious
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 18:58
|
|
|
Kanish posted:Yeah this show is interesting, but to make a multi-episode drama of board meetings and FAA hearings would not make for good tv imo. Right, I was trying to say that the 45 minute format is already more than enough for an air accident. They will probably end up making a special about the 737-MAX crashes in a few years once we have all the facts.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2019 19:41
|
|
|
El_Elegante posted:glorious The Yes Men are amazing.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 00:32
|
|
|
Kanish posted:Yeah this show is interesting, but to make a multi-episode drama of board meetings and FAA hearings would not make for good tv imo. Yeah. Part of what grips people watching Chernobyl is that it feels like you are watching something set after the apocalypse.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 00:46
|
|
|
Meanwhile, the TERFs have decided that the miniseries is an allegory for… transgenderism?
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 02:07
|
|
|
Came for the hard hitting historical drama about a world wide devastation. Stayed for the TERFs making it about the horror of dealing with trans women. 
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 02:30
|
|
|
I mean, they're right in the sense that long-held "truths" are often lies or misinformed... A simple swap of words or subjects without any nuance can go a long way.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 07:59
|
|
|
Why do they think transpeople are so god drat scary that in their mind it's on the level of nuclear meltdowns and dictatorships How deep does their brainrot go Who gives a poo poo what gender someone wants to be how the gently caress does that affect you lol
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 09:16
|
|
|
luxury handset posted:good luck getting it funded This is an amazing thing and I can't believe I hadn't seen it before.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 12:34
|
|
|
Collapsing Farts posted:Why do they think transpeople are so god drat scary that in their mind it's on the level of nuclear meltdowns and dictatorships The closest it ever comes to a good faith argument is when to fall back on "it lets people who may have penises use women's restrooms". But then you show them stats on sexual assaults and realize you're more at risk from a US congressman in a restroom than a trans person and any and all premise of good faith flies out the window and it's straight back to "they're gross and icky"
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 12:38
|
|
|
They think we're normalizing magical thinking, which makes the whole world irrational (more so)
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 14:07
|
|
|
I don't recall seeing this movie referenced in the thread, but the 2002 film K-19: The Widowmaker, starring Harrison Ford and Liam Neeson, should be right up everyone's alley. Radiation, Soviet engineering, Russian bureaucracy, and everyone speaking english with a Mr. Chekov accent, so it's a good contrast to watch this film and then the HBO series to decide which approach you like better. One great scene in this movie has sailors being sent to work on the nuclear core while wearing NBC suits, which won't do anything to stop the radiation, but the sailors are told they will to give them false hope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfKIm26tDMs
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 19:21
|
|
|
SimonCat posted:I don't recall seeing this movie referenced in the thread, but the 2002 film K-19: The Widowmaker, starring Harrison Ford and Liam Neeson, should be right up everyone's alley. Radiation, Soviet engineering, Russian bureaucracy, and everyone speaking english with a Mr. Chekov accent, so it's a good contrast to watch this film and then the HBO series to decide which approach you like better. It'd prevent any heavy metal poisoning and inhaling radioactive dust at least which are the next concerns if they don't actually end up with a large enough dose of radiation.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 20:02
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:It'd prevent any heavy metal poisoning and inhaling radioactive dust at least which are the next concerns if they don't actually end up with a large enough dose of radiation. Yeah, about that...: "On 4 July 1961, under the command of Captain First Rank Nikolai Vladimirovich Zateyev, K-19 was conducting exercises in the North Atlantic off the south-east coast of Greenland. At 04:15 local time the pressure in the starboard nuclear reactor's cooling system dropped to zero. The reactor department crew found a major leak in the reactor coolant system, causing the coolant pumps to fail. The boat could not contact Moscow and request assistance because a separate accident had damaged the long-range radio system. The control rods were automatically inserted by the emergency SCRAM system, but the reactor temperature rose uncontrollably. Decay heat from fission products produced during normal operation eventually heated the reactor to 800 °C (1,470 °F). Making a drastic decision, Zateyev ordered the engineering section to fabricate a new coolant system by cutting off an air vent valve and welding a water-supplying pipe into it. This required the men to work in high radiation for extended periods. The accident released radioactive steam containing fission products that were drawn into the ship's ventilation system and spread to other compartments of the ship. The jury-rigged cooling water system successfully reduced the temperature in the reactor.[1] The incident irradiated the entire crew, most of the ship, and some of the ballistic missiles on board. All seven members of the engineering crew and their divisional officer died of radiation exposure within the next month. Fifteen more sailors died within the next two years.[6] ... Deceased crew members Several crew members received fatal doses of radiation during repairs on the reserve coolant system of Reactor #8. Eight died between one and three weeks after the accident from severe radiation sickness. A person who receives a dose of 4 to 5 Sv (about 400-500 rem) over a short period has a 50% chance of dying within 30 days.[10] Name Rank Dose of radiation Date of death Boris Korchilov Lieutenant 54 Sv (Sievert)[11] = 5400 rem [12] 10 July 1961 Boris Ryzhikov Chief Starshina 8.6 Sv 25 July 1961 Yuriy Ordochkin Starshina, 1st class 11 Sv 10 July 1961 Evgeny Kashenkov Starshina, 2nd class 10 Sv 10 July 1961 Semyon Penkov Seaman 10 Sv 18 July 1961 Nicolai Savkin Seaman 11 Sv 13 July 1961 Valery Charitonov Seaman 11 Sv 15 July 1961 Yuriy Povstyev Captain Lieutenant, Commander of the division of movement 7.5 Sv 22 July 1961 Fourteen other crew members died within two years. Many other crew members also received radiation doses exceeding permissible levels.[1] They underwent medical treatment during the following year. Many others experienced chest pains, numbness, cancer, and kidney failure. Their treatment was devised by Professor Z. Volynskiy and included bone marrow transplantation and blood transfusion. It saved, among others, Chief Lieutenant Mikhail Krasichkov and Captain 3rd class Vladimir Yenin, who had received doses of radiation that were otherwise considered deadly. For reasons of secrecy, the official diagnosis was not "radiation sickness" but "astheno-vegetative syndrome", a mental disorder.[13]"
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 21:38
|
|
|
I meant it wasn't an absolute certainty going in, those 3 guys that went into the water at chernobyl were supposed to be going to their deaths but were fine. It probably wasn't the captain's plan to irradiate the entire drat boat.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 21:44
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:I meant it wasn't an absolute certainty going in, those 3 guys that went into the water at chernobyl were supposed to be going to their deaths but were fine. It probably wasn't the captain's plan to irradiate the entire drat boat. Well, sitting on top of a reactor core welding some pipes to it is quite different from going into a basement with some spicy water. I mean the guy received 11 lethal doses ffs.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 21:47
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:I meant it wasn't an absolute certainty going in, those 3 guys that went into the water at chernobyl were supposed to be going to their deaths but were fine. It probably wasn't the captain's plan to irradiate the entire drat boat. The other point is that a nuclear powered submarine was put to sea stocked only with NBC suits, not the lead lined anti-radiation suits they should have had. Basically the supply guy at the depot said "eh, one's as good as another."
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2019 22:13
|
|
|
spankmeister posted:going into a basement with some spicy water. lol
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2019 02:48
|
|
|
This link with pictures from the Fukushima exclusion zone popped up on my facebook feed this evening. A couple of pretty cool shots there.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2019 08:43
|
|
|
Wafflecopper posted:This link with pictures from the Fukushima exclusion zone popped up on my facebook feed this evening. A couple of pretty cool shots there.  
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2019 11:44
|
|
|
Not great, not terrible.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2019 12:38
|
|
|
E.J.Olmos posted:Not great, not terrible. I used this line at my D&D table last night and discovered all but one member of the group has watch Chernobyl
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2019 13:32
|
|
|
I personally prefer "Not great, not horrifying" in that wheezy Fomin voice
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2019 13:38
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 01:25 |
|
|
You mean Bryukhanov, comrade. Take this man to the infirmary, he’s clearly delusional.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2019 14:29
|
|
