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CaptainRat
Apr 18, 2003

It seems the secret to your success is a combination of boundless energy and enthusiastic insolence...

CellBlock posted:

The priest doesn't really look all that sad. And how could he, when he's surrounded by all those games!?

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Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


no, it was definitely pornography.

fordan
Mar 9, 2009

Clue: Zero

Ilor posted:

Nesbit wrote and published an adorable game about bees which I am looking forward to buying this year. He is the bee man.

To potentially drive more business his way, here's his website. He demo'ed it at Gen Con last year, did a successful kickstarter and the games are apparently on a boat somewhere in the vicinity of Japan currently.

Deviant posted:

no, it was definitely pornography.

I mean I think technically they probably did have cards for their trading card game in there as well and those are more cheesecake than pornography. But mostly porn.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
Thanks for the bee game plugs! Games are supposed to arrive in port tomorrow.

I got back from Origins pretty early today. I posted some feedback in the unoffical group. Figured I would post it here as well for those interested. It has it's problems, but overall it is a pretty good con and is the closest thing you can get to Gen Con that isn't Gen Con IMO. Has a lot in common with 1990s era Gen Con.

Origins feedback thread!

Danni Loe I don't know if there is an official place for feedback but I thought it would be good to start something here for people to talk about the good and bad of 2019.

This was my 4th Origins and I had a great time! I arrived Wednesday afternoon and just due to the flight schedules I had to catch a 6am plane on Sunday (not at all ideal but not Origins' fault!).

The Good
- I feel like the effort to communicate online was much better this year than in past. Having someone from Origins actively participating in this unofficial group helped a lot IMO
- The Tableau event calendar was nice, a lot easier to use that just downloading a spreadsheet all the time. I don't know if it was updated at the same pace but it seemed pretty close. I don't want the spreadsheet to go away, but a dynamic web based option for browsing is great.
- Moving the registration to the far end worked well, at least space wise. Things felt much less congested in the middle of the convention center. As someone who pre-registered for my badge and event tickets the registration was super quick and easy as well. I didn't get any additional events, generics, or turn anything in while I was there.
- I don't know if this was new or not, but this is the first time I noticed it. I love having the booth numbers on the carpet in front of all the booths so you could actually orient your location in the hall. I wish all cons would do this.
- So glad something was worked out with Vallejo and Wizkids to do both the paint and take and the master classes. My group did 3 of the master classes (we also did one of the beholder ones last year) and loved it. I think there is some fine tuning to be done with master classes, since some of the figures were too large to finish even half way in the 2 hours but they were overall great and I hope they return next year.

The indifferent
- Wednesday is kind of a weird day IMO for Origins. Its great to get in, pick up your stuff, and get into your hotel, but it doesn't seem like there is a whole bunch else going on officially, which seems a little odd since Wednesday is an official con day for Origins. It doesn't need much, but maybe a few events would be nice. As is, it feels like I have a bunch more to do at Gen Con on Wednesday on my own where at Origins I need to just wait for friends to arrive and hope we can meet up.
- I wish the unpub room received more promotion. I know it was scheduled late this year, but it felt less busy than last year and it wasn't terribly busy last year either.
-This is more vendor specific, but needing a ticket for a Dune demo with Gale Force 9 was kind of weird. Me and the others I was with really just wanted to learn a couple turns of the game, and the 3 hours it was scheduled for wasn't long enough for a table of new players to finish anyway. It was just and odd way to handle showing off this new printing of the game.

The Bad
-There needs to be a better official parking solution for people traveling in and staying at hotels. I flew in, but the rest of my group, Sally and Helena, drove from Wisconsin. It wasn't clear what to do about parking, and were pointed to the official convention center option at the parking structure next to North Market. When we went to buy tickets the only options were daily passes with no in and out privileges. This was super obnoxious because it meant we had to move the car before midnight every night and then bring it back to the lot after midnight. This was pretty much the most inconvenient thing I've ever had to do at a con. A couple weeks after we bought our passes they added a multi-day pass only for exhibitors with in and out privileges, but it was more expensive than the combined price of the daily passes. What we really needed was a multiday pass with no in and out privileges, we just stayed on site the entire convention and not having something that accommodated that was frustrating.
- Events in hall A starting at 10am or ending at 6pm. It was very stressful having events in that hall starting as soon as it opened and not being able to get into the hall until the start time. This also meant the event couldn't start close to 10, which was particularly bad for the 2 hour master paint classes that you needed every minute for. Similarly, having events ending there right at 6 was not great, again because you were rushed out, though this was more tolerable than the 10am start time problem.
-The convention center seemed to be very poor about taking care of keeping their water coolers full. There also didn't seem to be many of them, and this just made it very difficult to stay hydrated.
- The online registration system, especially for events needs work. It feels extremely dated and its clunky and inconvenient to use. I went and added on events about 4 times during pre-reg (mainly because the things I wanted to do kept getting added in later) and it was super weird to me that each time the system seemed incapable of calculating how much I owed correctly. The search interface is also pretty poor. My day job is as a librarian and I haven't seen something that clunky since the early 2000s. I also don't understand why the official system is hidden once prereg closes. I get you can't buy tickets, but you really do need to be able to see what is and isn't sold out for event planning purposes. This is standard for pretty much every con I go to, even the small ones (more and more of which seem to use Tabletop Events these days).
-The paint and take was too small, didn't have enough hours, and was just kind of confusing. Its a great thing to have, but it doesn't have nearly enough space IMO, and it would be really nice if it went later into the evening and more on Wednesday just for more to do. Also, this may be standard, but having the set number of figures run out fairly early each day seemed odd. I know how it works now so I can plan better, but it seemed like a weird way to handle this type of event.

OgreNoah
Nov 18, 2003

I just got back from Origins too! I pretty much played Pathfinder and Starfinder the entire Con, except for one Indie Games on Demand session on Friday. I had a blast, and got to take a few walks around the dealer hall, bought Century New World and Lanterns Dice, as well as a few Magic cards.
They do have a problem with parking as Nesbit says, I stayed at a friend's parents' house with him, but there's not much parking downtown which is kinda weird for a large city. It definitely reminds me more of Gencon back in 2007 when I first started going, so much smaller. And North Market is always good.

Oh yeah, their online event registration system is a loving tragedy. It needs to be taken out back and put down. When you search by day it wont even show you events that end at midnight or start before midnight, it's so bad.

Amcoti
Apr 7, 2004

Sing for the flames that will rip through here
The BGG Gencon games preview is up

Lord Of Texas
Dec 26, 2006

I enjoyed Origins a lot, but I was in the board room/gaming library for 95% of it, so I didn't have to deal with the event registration system. It's really nice not having to deal with the pure volume of humanity that is GenCon. It was a bit annoying that the unpub room wasn't more noticeable, i didn't even know of its existence until I wandered by it on Saturday afternoon. The first exposure room at GenCon not only has better signage but ads throughout the con promoting it, if I remember correctly.

Speaking of open gaming, is anyone interested in heavier gaming at GenCon? I'd love to get in a game of Food Chain Magnate or Sidereal Confluence, and I don't feel like paying the game library prices after $20 getting me 5 days of library access at Origins.

Lord Of Texas fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jun 20, 2019

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

Lord Of Texas posted:

Speaking of open gaming, is anyone interested in heavier gaming at GenCon? I'd love to get in a game of Food Chain Magnate or Sidereal Confluence, and I don't feel like paying the game library prices after $20 getting me 5 days of library access at Origins.


Fellis posted:

Any goons want to play their first 18xx hit me up, I’ll have the best intro game: 1889.

I would also play FCM with new achievements proxied or Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
I would love to play food chain magnet at gen con. Whether or not I am able to is a different story.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


just imagine i posted about the bees, bee man.

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004

Lord Of Texas posted:

Speaking of open gaming, is anyone interested in heavier gaming at GenCon? I'd love to get in a game of Food Chain Magnate or Sidereal Confluence, and I don't feel like paying the game library prices after $20 getting me 5 days of library access at Origins.

I keep hearing about Food Chain Magnate and every year I keep wanting to check it out. Maybe this will be the year!

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
I’ll bring FCM with the new milestones. Happy to teach it.

If anyone has Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant I would love to play Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jun 22, 2019

Ceebees
Nov 2, 2011

I'm intentionally being as verbose as possible in negotiations for my own amusement.

Bottom Liner posted:

If anyone has Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant I would love to play Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant.
Anyone who uses the actual flavor names for gatorade is a cop.
I'm not sure what this makes you.

Lord Of Texas
Dec 26, 2006

Bottom Liner posted:

I’ll bring FCM with the new milestones. Happy to teach it.

If anyone has Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant I would love to play Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant.

I have SC:TaNitEQ and will bring it! I can teach, but we will need at least 4 and preferably more.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Ceebees posted:

Anyone who uses the actual flavor names for gatorade is a cop.
I'm not sure what this makes you.

cops aren't welcome at shots wednesday

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Bottom Liner posted:

If anyone has Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant I would love to play Sidereal Confluence: Trading and Negotiating in the Elysium Quadrant.

I love this dumbass hobby.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Carteret posted:

I love this dumbass hobby.

Speaking of dumb stuff, we have a tiebreaker of Keyflower to settle :getin:

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Hoped to go to Origins, which as I mentioned in the GroupMe was my fatal mistake: I only get to go to Origins when I am not trying or, indeed, am actively disinterested in attending but somehow end up in Columbus at the same time as the show anyway. Heard it was ... ................

I listened to the Secret Cabal podcast Gen-Con episode from a few years ago, and it was fascinating to hear them talking about Origins as though everyone understood it was the better convention, and their recoiling in horror when one of the co-hosts was like "so anyway, Gen Con, which as a reminder is the objectively superior convention..."

Honestly I should amend my catchphrase from "Gen-Con is too short to spend time playing games" to "if you want to spend all your time playing games at Gen-Con, go to Origins"

Disclaimer: Do whatever the hell you want at whatever convention if you enjoy it, baby; I will high-five you all the same

Ceebees posted:

Anyone who uses the actual flavor names for gatorade is a cop.
I'm not sure what this makes you.
I enjoyed a nice Local Area Network multiplayer game of The Operative: No One Lives Forever with some other Something Awful Forums "Goons" in the early 2000s; it made me wish Tales of the Unknown, Volume I: The Bard's Tale had been network-capable back in the day, perhaps using the Atari Sixteen/Thirty-Two's Musical Instrument Digital Interface ports.

Ego Trip
Aug 28, 2012

A tenacious little mouse!


Dr. Quarex posted:

Disclaimer: Do whatever the hell you want at whatever convention if you enjoy it, baby; I will high-five you all the same.

Lies.
You will maybe come to lunch one day and spend the rest of your time hiding in the auction.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

Dr. Quarex posted:

Honestly I should amend my catchphrase from "Gen-Con is too short to spend time playing games" to "if you want to spend all your time playing games at Gen-Con, go to Origins"

Truer words have never been typed on these haloed forums. If you are in the industry, Origins is also great because it isnt nearly as exhausting and people actually have time to meet with you.

Dr. Quarex posted:

I enjoyed a nice Local Area Network multiplayer game of The Operative: No One Lives Forever with some other Something Awful Forums "Goons" in the early 2000s; it made me wish Tales of the Unknown, Volume I: The Bard's Tale had been network-capable back in the day, perhaps using the Atari Sixteen/Thirty-Two's Musical Instrument Digital Interface ports.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone made that game today, MIDI ports and all. I know of two video game conventions where people still make and sell homemade games for systems like the Intellivision and Sega Master System. TOO MANY GAMES near Philadelphia and the Midwest Gaming Classic in Milwaukee.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Ego Trip posted:

Lies.
You will maybe come to lunch one day and spend the rest of your time hiding in the auction.
MY FANFIC!!!

This is the year that all changes, says the man who genuinely believes this, who we all know will be proven wrong by some confluence of events.

nesbit37 posted:

Truer words have never been typed on these haloed forums. If you are in the industry, Origins is also great because it isnt nearly as exhausting and people actually have time to meet with you.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone made that game today, MIDI ports and all. I know of two video game conventions where people still make and sell homemade games for systems like the Intellivision and Sega Master System. TOO MANY GAMES near Philadelphia and the Midwest Gaming Classic in Milwaukee.
Yeah Origins' vibe really is "nearly closing time at Gen Con." And I know that sounds like a hyper-dig, but if I went to gaming conventions for the gaming, it would basically be perfect. Particularly since downtown Columbus has, while nothing resembling the amazing Gamer City that pops up around Gen-Con, a lot of cool places to eat and hang out. BYOB to Gen-Con's GBS perhaps. FYAD to Gen-Con's Pet Island

Also Midwest Gaming Classic is the event most tailor-made for me that I have never attended, I think. Every year I am like THIS IS THE YEAR and every year I am like "oh, that was this weekend?"

Conan the Librarian
Mar 1, 2006

I drink zee beer from zee glass but das boring, das boot? ew yeah das more like it keep pouring
So my True Dungeon group might have some room Saturday at about 4pm for 2 people. We'd be playing Nightmare level so if you're new we'd likely provide you with gear. This would be an opportunity for a couple of people to try the game out at different level than most non-serious players do. Send me a PM if you're interested.

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.
Got my badges from the post office today! The hype is real.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

After the year I forgot my badge at home I will call every time.

Is it too early to start packing for Gen Con?

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




8one6 posted:

After the year I forgot my badge at home I will call every time.

Is it too early to start packing for Gen Con?

The first two years we got our badges at Will Call. First year was Thursday morning, maybe a 2 minute wait. Last year, Wednesday night and at least a half hour wait. We're trying the mail option this year and between the two of us, hopefully, we don't forget. I still have to break the news to my boss that I'm taking that Thursday and Friday off, since someone else already requested the week.

Also, guess the location!

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Admiral Joeslop posted:

The first two years we got our badges at Will Call. First year was Thursday morning, maybe a 2 minute wait. Last year, Wednesday night and at least a half hour wait. We're trying the mail option this year and between the two of us, hopefully, we don't forget. I still have to break the news to my boss that I'm taking that Thursday and Friday off, since someone else already requested the week.

Also, guess the location!



this shots wednesday video game sucks

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Admiral Joeslop posted:

The first two years we got our badges at Will Call. First year was Thursday morning, maybe a 2 minute wait. Last year, Wednesday night and at least a half hour wait. We're trying the mail option this year and between the two of us, hopefully, we don't forget. I still have to break the news to my boss that I'm taking that Thursday and Friday off, since someone else already requested the week.

Also, guess the location!




S O O N

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Deviant posted:

this shots wednesday video game sucks

It has iNdiE cHaRm.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

8one6 posted:

After the year I forgot my badge at home I will call every time.
Such luxuries, actually having a badge to choose between mailing or picking up at Will Call

Yes I know, hard to complain about a free badge

Particularly when it makes it even easier for me to not pay any attention to signing up for events when I never have a badge before like late July

8one6 posted:

Is it too early to start packing for Gen Con?
N
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I started buying lunch-equivalent snacks in like April. And started squirrelling away cash in erratic bursts in December. And packed it in mentally at work in about September.

I got a message from someone who does not even seemingly have a Forums account thanking me for my packing list suggestions, which worries me, as I think if you literally followed my packing suggestions you would show up with one outfit and definitely without your insulin, which you all need

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Admiral Joeslop posted:

The first two years we got our badges at Will Call. First year was Thursday morning, maybe a 2 minute wait. Last year, Wednesday night and at least a half hour wait. We're trying the mail option this year and between the two of us, hopefully, we don't forget. I still have to break the news to my boss that I'm taking that Thursday and Friday off, since someone else already requested the week.

Also, guess the location!



drat that looks clearer than it did in person last year

WerrWaaa
Nov 5, 2008

I can make all your dreams come true.
I'm not packing but I am writing out my packing list. And my shopping list. Anyone have a link to a list of exclusives? Here are some relevant BGG links.

Gen Con Math Trade

RPG companies expected to have releases at Gen Con

Promos you can get at GC '19 events

New games releasing at GC '19

Sorry if I'm repeating something.

OgreNoah
Nov 18, 2003

Dr. Quarex posted:

And packed it in mentally at work in about September.

Mine goes GenCon's over, time to think about U*Con, U*Con's over time to think about Origins, Origins' over time to think about GenCon.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
The math trade is really excellent by the way. Highly recommend doing it if you want to get rid of games (you can accept cash value as well).

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
The Pin Bazaar could be counted as a Gen Con exclusive. It's the 2nd year they are doing it and I always like to push the thing because I now like to collect pins and my booth has participated in it both years. I'll have our new Dirt Dog pin this year and will also have the few remaining Bee pins we had from last year available as well.

https://www.pinbazaar.com/gen-con-2019

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

OgreNoah posted:

Mine goes GenCon's over, time to think about U*Con, U*Con's over time to think about Origins, Origins' over time to think about GenCon.
I now know about U*Con! Definitely would have gone last year if I had known. Tragedy.

My brain more subdivides Gen-Con into several phases and gets excited about them at different times.

"Hmm, I haven't updated my wishlist for next year yet!" *spends a week deep-diving into old issues of Dragon, previous wishlists, random draft e-mails I wrote in lieu of having a notepad on me when an idea struck, et cetera*

... "Hmm, I haven't checked for new businesses to add to my custom Indianapolis Google Map!" *spends three Street influence and hears from the Tremere Primogen that there is a new doughnut place opening*

......... "Hmm, I am still alive" *sharpens Japanese katana blade*

Bottom Liner posted:

The math trade is really excellent by the way. Highly recommend doing it if you want to get rid of games (you can accept cash value as well).
The name "math trade" is so off-putting that it took me years after hearing it for the first time to actually look into what it was

Also I am bitter because any math trade necessarily takes traffic away from the Auction. Then again, it is not like the Auction is ever hurting for things to sell, so I suspect both can exist handily.

nesbit37 posted:

The Pin Bazaar could be counted as a Gen Con exclusive. It's the 2nd year they are doing it and I always like to push the thing because I now like to collect pins and my booth has participated in it both years. I'll have our new Dirt Dog pin this year and will also have the few remaining Bee pins we had from last year available as well.

https://www.pinbazaar.com/gen-con-2019

open_sketchbook
Feb 26, 2017

the only genius in the whole fucking business
My plan is to not see any other part of the convention except the games on demand room, where I will be running games non-stop.

OgreNoah
Nov 18, 2003

Dr. Quarex posted:

I now know about U*Con! Definitely would have gone last year if I had known. Tragedy.

I live in Ypsilanti so if you're in town this year I can show you around!

Klungar
Feb 12, 2008

Klungo make bessst ever video game, 'Hero Klungo Sssavesss Teh World.'

OgreNoah posted:

I live in Ypsilanti so if you're in town this year I can show you around!

Nice! I live in the Novi area, I’ll have to check this out since I haven’t been able to get back to GenCon for a couple years now.

ZachAttack
Mar 17, 2009

Malevolent Hatform
Nap Ghost

open_sketchbook posted:

My plan is to not see any other part of the convention except the games on demand room, where I will be running games non-stop.

Are you going to be running Circus? Would love to play it. My favorite part of the games on demand room is getting to play games with their creators.

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Amcoti
Apr 7, 2004

Sing for the flames that will rip through here
Probably a silly question but Is there a good way to try out Crokinole at gencon?

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