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shame on an IGA posted:You might have the wrong link there, but you might not. I honestly don't know
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Police who shot Vallejo rapper 55 times in 3.5 seconds acted reasonably, report found Tryna avoid cop chat so I'd just share the headline.
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The Iron Rose posted:This is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. I keep telling myself if was a cult of personality lightning in a bottle death spasm from old white people in reaction to the horror of a black guy getting elected. That said, Trump will probably get 4 terms.
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Trump nominated Esper (current Sec Army) as Sec Def. Guy has been in the government for basically his whole life. One of the more perplexingly normal decisions he's made regarding nominees. https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.a3dbde0e31d2
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sharknado slashfic posted:I keep telling myself if was a cult of personality lightning in a bottle death spasm from old white people in reaction to the horror of a black guy getting elected. That said, Trump will probably get 4 terms. I'm pretty sure I've already seen people argue that since FDR (A DEMOCRAT) got four terms, Trump should get four as well.
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm pretty sure I've already seen people argue that since FDR (A DEMOCRAT) got four terms, Trump should get four as well. If he could just skip to the final one right now that would be cool.
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psydude posted:Trump nominated Esper (current Sec Army) as Sec Def. Guy has been in the government for basically his whole life. Hmm? quote:He left government and served as chief of staff at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, and represented the defense industry, first as the chief operating officer of the Aerospace Industries Association and later as vice president of government relations for the defense contractor Raytheon. He also served as executive vice president for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce's Global Intellectual Property Center and as its vice president for Europe and Eurasian Affairs.
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Jun 22, 2019 02:01
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Relatively normal by republican admin standards. See: Cheney
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Eej posted:Police who shot Vallejo rapper 55 times in 3.5 seconds acted reasonably, report found Why didn't you post the article, too? VALLEJO, Calif. (BCN) - A retired peace officer with experience in training police officers in the use of force said the Vallejo police officers' fatal shooting of rap artist Willie McCoy, 20, in a Taco Bell drive-thru in February was reasonable and in line with modern training and police practices, the city attorney said. City Attorney Claudia Quintana referred to a May 17 report by Dave Blake of Brentwood-based Blake Consulting. Quintana posted Blake's report and a news release about it on Vallejo's website Monday. Quintana said the report details the legal background and the reasons behind Blake's conclusions. But she said it is important to realize that there is a difference between what force is reasonable from a civil liability perspective and what outcome city officials and the community wanted. "The death of Mr. McCoy is not the outcome that the City of Vallejo and our community desire," Quintana said. A letter by Blake to Assistant City Attorney Kelly Trujillo, said the review of the Feb. 9 fatal shooting focused on the constitutional aspects of the use of force as well as any human factor psychological aspects which might apply. Blake said he reserved the right to add, change and delete any of his opinions based on any provision of more information not reviewed at the time his report was completed. The report says six Vallejo police officers fired 55 rounds in 3.5 seconds at McCoy who was sitting in a silver Mercedes that was still in drive gear. Blake said the officers had reasonable suspicion and/or probable cause to detain or arrest McCoy for offenses that included carrying a loaded firearm in public, DUI, possession of a firearm under the influence of a controlled substance and resisting, delaying or obstructing a peace officer. One of the officers who looked inside the Mercedes-Benz as McCoy slept said he saw a gun in McCoy's lap, and two other officers confirmed it, Blake said. Video footage from various angles makes it clear McCoy sat up, moved both hands toward his lap and then moved his left arm downward, Blake said. Officers were giving loud verbal commands as McCoy made movements forward in his seat three seconds before shots were fired, Blake said. McCoy's eyes were open and he looked around at the officers before reaching toward the area of the gun. Videos from all body worn cameras show McCoy was fired upon three seconds after the first verbal command to show his hands, Blake said. Just before the shots were fired, McCoy's left arm movement indicates he was reaching down toward the floorboard, Blake said. According to Blake, the six officers had probable cause to believe McCoy posed an immediate threat of death or serious injury to themselves and others, and the use of force was objectively reasonable and necessary based on the totality of circumstances. Civil rights attorney John Burris, who represents McCoy's family and plans to file a claim against the city of Vallejo, said in March that Vallejo police "failed to establish a plan of action to safely remove McCoy from the car and violated longstanding officer safety principles." Burris also said he does not understand why the Vallejo police officers refused to take a position of safety to resolve the incident without gunfire.
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Ok, a think tank conservative is a Stark departure from Devos or Carson. He's basically a Bush nominee. e: Basically I was expecting another toady like Pompeo. psydude fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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This country is beyond saving. Tammy Duckworth made a Facebook post about a program to provide free lunches to needy children and 90% of the comments are old boomers complaining about who is gonna pay for it and why aren't they working jobs to get food and, my favorite, if there are so many hungry kids why are there fat kids. gently caress America.
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GoGoGadget posted:This country is beyond saving. Tammy Duckworth made a Facebook post about a program to provide free lunches to needy children and 90% of the comments are old boomers complaining about who is gonna pay for it and why aren't they working jobs to get food and, my favorite, if there are so many hungry kids why are there fat kids. gently caress America. But 90% of the population isn't old boomers. Social media isn't real life. gently caress those guys. They'll be dead soon enough, but the rest of us should still give enough of a poo poo about the next generation to keep trying to make things better.
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Arc Light posted:But 90% of the population isn't old boomers. Social media isn't real life. gently caress those guys. They'll be dead soon enough, but the rest of us should still give enough of a poo poo about the next generation to keep trying to make things better. But despair and nihilism are so much easier!
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I'm thinking of changing my lovely depression motto from, "take a health care ceo with you to st. peter so you look better by comparison" to "take all the boomers with you so they can be disappointed that there's no afterlife."
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Here's me dancing around some boomer's death bed as they fade from this world singing "There's no god, there's no god!" While their horrified family looks on.
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 thats for tickets to the debate(s) Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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Jun 22, 2019 03:38
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$0- watch at home, drink your own stuff, yell at the lovely candidates, pet your dog, donate what you would have spent to the candidate you want
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pantslesswithwolves posted:$0- watch at home, drink your own stuff, yell at the lovely candidates, pet your dog, donate what you would have spent to the candidate you want Yup. gently caress the Democrat establishment.
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psydude posted:Ok, a think tank conservative is a Stark departure from Devos or Carson. He's basically a Bush nominee. Heritage has been pumping out low-key fascists for a long while now, and he's been a lobbyist for 10 of the last 12 years. Other than not making public statements on the rapture or covering up his son beating his wife, what's the difference between him and Pompeo or Shanahan exactly? I just don't see how this is an improvement. https://dod.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography-View/Article/1378166/dr-mark-t-esper/ "For the past seven years, Esper was a senior executive at the Raytheon Company as Vice President for Government Relations." https://dod.defense.gov/About/Biographies/Biography-View/Article/1252116/patrick-m-shanahan/ "Mr. Shanahan previously served as Boeing senior vice president, Supply Chain & Operations" AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Heritage has been pumping out low-key fascists for a long while now, and he's been a lobbyist for 10 of the last 12 years. Other than not making public statements on the rapture or covering up his son beating his wife, what's the difference between him and Pompeo or Shanahan exactly? I never said it was a good thing. I said it was surprising since he's basically just an establishment conservative. Jesus this thread likes to invent narratives.
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psydude posted:I never said it was a good thing. I said it was surprising since he's basically just an establishment conservative. Jesus this thread likes to invent narratives. I mean, sure, if you've abandoned all standards this is fine. Literally the only difference between this guy and the people you're favorably comparing him to is that he hasn't been in a position to make public statements. Everything about his employment history confirms he'll be ideological and corrupt. In all seriousness, what are the substantive differences between this guy and Pompeo since you keep using that as a comparison. Ester spent a few more years in the military and Pompeo spent a few years in Congress, but they fundamentally come from the same background and right wing ecosystem. Like is there a foreign policy (or whatever) issue they come down on different sides on? AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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How enforceable are wishes in wills? Consider the boomer parent who wants a religious funeral that's going to cost all this money, atheist kid would rather cremate and be done with it. What are they going to do, sue you?
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EBB posted:How enforceable are wishes in wills? Consider the boomer parent who wants a religious funeral that's going to cost all this money, atheist kid would rather cremate and be done with it. What are they going to do, sue you? IANAL, I believe it comes down to the executor of the estate. I say this as when my grandmother passed, she wanted to be cremated however the executor being my uncle decided on not following that for ~*reasons*~
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I think if the estate has set aside funds for everything, it's in the will, and arrangements have been made, it's a legit thing that has to be done. If it's just some bullshit that they expect other people to pay for, then sorry pop pop, your crispy rear end is going in the 16 dollar urn in a box next to a costco 12 pack of TV cleaner.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:I mean, sure, if you've abandoned all standards this is fine. Literally the only difference between this guy and the people you're favorably comparing him to is that he hasn't been in a position to make public statements. Everything about his employment history confirms he'll be ideological and corrupt. “Debate me!”, he screams, waving a pair of official biographies in my face
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In German cop news, a court couldn't deny a bunch of Neo-Nazi festival organisers in East Germany from doing their concert, so it instead decided to gently caress with them and confiscate their beer. https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-confiscate-4200-liters-of-beer-from-nazis/a-49303945
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Duzzy Funlop posted:In German cop news, a court couldn't deny a bunch of Neo-Nazi festival organisers in East Germany from doing their concert, so it instead decided to gently caress with them and confiscate their beer. How in the hell are neo Nazis given a right to organize in Germany, aren't they super conscious about the whole Nazi thing? I'd imagine they'd be super strict about that. Though I will say good cops on that
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orange juche posted:How in the hell are neo Nazis given a right to organize in Germany, aren't they super conscious about the whole Nazi thing? I'd imagine they'd be super strict about that. To repost what I said in the Schadenfreude thread, these aren't Swastika-waving, Sieg-heiling Neonazis like the ones Trump thinks are very fine people. These are Neonazis that have to use off-brand, non-verboten flags in public, and can only sieg-heil very quietly behind closed doors. NeoNazis in Germany have to tiptoe around several laws to not get hosed, and can't act out their fantasies in public like American NeoNazis can. The laws restrict a ton of symbols, exclamations, behaviors and such that those shitlers would really love to display, but can't. And then there's a "Gummi-Paragraph", or "rubber-paragraph" that is intentionally worded a little loosely and doesn't include an exhaustive list of explicit things that are verboten, so as to give the courts some leeway in loving over Nazis that play the ol' "just the tip" routine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a I'm assuming German Neonazis swoon at American Neonazis all day, dreaming of a land where they can cosplay their little racist hearts out.
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United States of America. Now more racist than WW2 Germany.
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ded posted:United States of America. Now more racist than WW2 Germany. I find an incredible amount of prescience in system of a down lately. But there have been people saying it since forever. Nazi Germany took notes on American sins and used them. We've been courting this political climate before the first Congress. There was a crazy amount of support for fascism in America before WW2 and we put the Japanese into racist death camps. There were contemporary Pearl Harbor truthers. None of it is new.
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ded posted:United States of America. Now more racist than WW2 Germany. We're not even more racist than WW2 America. edit: re: Times cover: wonder if "Trumpism" will be the 21st century Fascism (language use wise, it's already fascism) Jarmak fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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I'm a dumbass and posted this in the wrong thread:CRUSTY MINGE posted:
Riders were from Marine Jarhead Motorcycle Club. Still nothing on fault.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I'm a dumbass and posted this in the wrong thread: It was a head on crash that took out 7 of 10 riders. Godamn that's brutal.
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Yeah, I don't know that stretch of road at all, but if it's got a few curves I could see the bikers or the pickup driver cutting the center line for reasons. Bunch of unknowns at the moment. Goddamnit guys, wear gear if you're going to ride. These were marine harley guys, you could probably assume they had skid lids at best. Your chin is easily detachable, don't leave it out in the breeze.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:
I think we can guess exactly who is at fault.
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Being that they're rather tight-lipped on details at the moment, I'm inclined to agree. I'd be interested in seeing what the blood alcohol/narcotics panels look like, too. Dudes trying to out-dude each other, marines are the proto-bro. Also why I suspect a lack of much safety gear, aside from what skirts the law. But we won't know until they release the report. I kinda hope that truck had a dashcam on it. This was in the boonies of new hampshire, if that is such a thing.
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Chichevache posted:I think we can guess exactly who is at fault. Yeah, I saw a picture of what bikes were involved and then you hear motorcycle club and then you hear military and, well, it's really, really, hard not to jump to a conclusion.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Yeah, I don't know that stretch of road at all, but if it's got a few curves I could see the bikers or the pickup driver cutting the center line for reasons. Bunch of unknowns at the moment. It was in New Hampshire,"Live free or DIE". Guess they weren't living free enough. New Hampshire doesn't require helmets or insurance.
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