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Jun 20, 2019 13:39
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And nobody was surprised.
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Alokgen posted:I've been building bunch of lists, just not sure what suites Malakov best. I've also been running into issues with being 1 or 2 points away from getting a 3rd free solo and it drives me crazy. Quoting this because I just starting making Infernal lists today and I wanna come back to this later. Malakov 2 seems tricky to build for though.
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S.J. posted:Quoting this because I just starting making Infernal lists today and I wanna come back to this later. Malakov 2 seems tricky to build for though. Here's what I've come up with Crosse so far. https://conflictchamber.com/?cg201b_-1ejv8k8k7ipbonotosfioropokiBiBou Infernal Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Hearts of Darkness (Mercs) (CID) !!! This army contains pre-release entries. !!! This army contains CID entries. !!! This list is using a CID theme. [Crosse 2] Lieutenant Crosse, Resistance Fighter [+29] - Mariner [14] - Mariner [14] - Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator [4] Alexia, Mistress of the Witchfire [7] Great Princess Regna Gravnoy [0(6)] Kezia Brand, The Screaming Night [4] Mordecai, Master of Arms [0(5)] Sergeant Nicolas Verendrye [4] Umbral Guardian [0(6)] Valin Hauke, The Fallen Knight [7] Howlers (max) [15] Steelhead Halberdiers (max) [11] Steelhead Halberdiers (max) [11] Infernal Gate [12] You could swap reinholdt and Kezia for a min grievers, if you wanted. That's a toss up for me.
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Not sure you need Valin in there, but he is a boss. Parsing Heart of Darkness lists is a loving nightmare.
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S.J. posted:Not sure you need Valin in there, but he is a boss. Parsing Heart of Darkness lists is a loving nightmare. I included him mainly for the tactian. I haven't play in a while so any help I can get not jamming myself up seems good. Just pricey. Making or even browsing HoD stuff in Warroom is terrible.
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Oh my god the Riot Quest trailer was actually good and they made fun of the old one e: New actually miniature game coming out, lower model count than WMH, completely new setting without magic. 'Warcasters'. You get to customize your leader dude like people have wanted in WMH forever, and it's a completely new system. S.J. fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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The theme forces revamp has me more excited for the game than I have been in years. Basically, all themes get 3 requisition points at 75pts that they can spend for free solos and stuff. No more building around the stupid "one solo per 25 pts of warjacks" crap. Should open up more themes (play beastheavy in a traditional infantry theme because you like th3 solos, for example).
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Yeah thats a fantastic change and I honestly can't wait.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:29
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As long as PP is smart and doesn’t let some factions take 6-8 pt options for free, this will be very good. I play Exalted and it’s bs that I easily get 5 or 6 pt models for free that are very good, while most factions can jazz st get 4 pt standard solos at best. I’m also glad to see the huge change that allows more beasts and hacks in every list. It’ll add more variety to lists which is a huge improvement over where things are now.
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rkajdi posted:As long as PP is smart and doesn’t let some factions take 6-8 pt options for free, this will be very good. I play Exalted and it’s bs that I easily get 5 or 6 pt models for free that are very good, while most factions can jazz st get 4 pt standard solos at best. Don't you let them take Severius0 away from me don't you do it
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mp5 posted:Don't you let them take Severius0 away from me don't you do it I think the better option is to just drown themes in the bathtub, but apparently we aren’t allowed to have nice things.
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I haven't been able to watch the keynote yet, but regarding the 3 free models just for playing 75pts, is that only if you play in a theme? I could see it being added at the faction level being benefitial to peolle not wanting to play in theme.
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Alokgen posted:I haven't been able to watch the keynote yet, but regarding the 3 free models just for playing 75pts, is that only if you play in a theme? I could see it being added at the faction level being benefitial to peolle not wanting to play in theme. yeah it's still a theme force benefit.
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Alokgen posted:I haven't been able to watch the keynote yet, but regarding the 3 free models just for playing 75pts, is that only if you play in a theme? I could see it being added at the faction level being benefitial to peolle not wanting to play in theme. They're also going to be consolidating some themes together, so it's going to be a lot easier to make a list that you want. mp5 posted:Don't you let them take Severius0 away from me don't you do it 
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S.J. posted:They're also going to be consolidating some themes together, so it's going to be a lot easier to make a list that you want. Yeah this is the big problem with themes: quite a few are too restrictive. There should be overlap between themes.
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I can’t find a full video of the keynote - what did they say about Spacemahordes? Anything more than just the concept?
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it is on their twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/442207515 I think around 48:38 is the spacemans stuff
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Jun 21, 2019 23:25
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neonchameleon posted:Did they say when these theme force changes are happening? Jay Larson posted on Facebook that they should drop in a few weeks after Oblivion box set drops at Gencon. There will be a period where you can select between old themes and new requisition themes until the big world tournament finishes up so they can use the legacy system that everyone has been prepping for. After that, the next WarRoom2 update will remove the legacy themes and go 100% into the requisition/revamped themes.
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Yooooo sign me the gently caress up for Warmahordes 5000, that sounds awesome.
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FrostyPox posted:Yooooo sign me the gently caress up for Warmahordes 5000, that sounds awesome. I’m so cautiously hopeful that it’s good, but I can’t help but be totally cynical about this one. 1. PPs support for their non-core WMH games in the long run historically has been terrible. (See: grind, ikrpg, level7, MonPoc - until recently). 2. The strength of WMH has never been the setting and lore in the way 40k has. Taking on 40k in that way seems like a bad decision. 3. The biggest complaint stores have about WMH is that the line is too big, too many skus to stock and doesn’t move like GWs products do. Making a new game with a new line seems like a grab for more skus to throw at game stores who already hate that they can’t order through normal distribution channels. 4. Where the gently caress is my L5R miniature wargame?
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What do you mean by #2? I mean, it's not a strictly fantasy setting, but I'm not sure why you feel they're taking on 40k in the lore department. Humanity being scattered around the universe is the most unoriginal start to a sci-fi setting you could imagine. I just wanna see more about Warcaster so I can see the aesthetic of the models. S.J. fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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It’s being called WM40k all over the social media groups. It’s almost impossible to not draw the comparison, even though it’ll have nothing to do with GW’s game. The allure of 40k for a lot of the people is the rich lore of the setting. The game is middling at best and tournament balance is nonexistent without a fan-made set of houserules. WMH in comparison has okay lore that they do a horrible job of supporting, but very tightly written rules that favor tournament play well. But stepping out of the IK setting to future time space fightin mans doesn’t strike me as a great idea given how many players they’ve lost to GW pulling its head out of its rear end a few years back. I’d like liked to see a more modern or near-futuristic IK setting, or a post-infernal world reset maybe. Given what’s been shown so far, I’m not hyped for what I’ve seen yet.
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koreban posted:I’d like liked to see a more modern or near-futuristic IK setting, or a post-infernal world reset maybe. Given what’s been shown so far, I’m not hyped for what I’ve seen yet. Your post-infernal world that's not using the WMH system is Riotquest.
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Alokgen posted:Your post-infernal world that's not using the WMH system is Riotquest. I’m in wait and see mode on Riotquest. I suspect that people are only going to buy it for Eiyriss5 and Boomhowler2 and whatever they release over the next year because the rules will be janky and they’ll work in the new themes with some weird edge case interaction.
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I'm curious how it will end up. I laugh about some warmachine decisions PP makes, but I liked company of iron and monpoc and like -most- of warmachine so it isn't impossible they could put out a game I'd be interested in. I know already that Boomhowler2 is going to greatly improve McBain in mercs, assuming he gets released as the ?preview? version I remember seeing.
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Is this also the Iron Kingdoms RPG thread?
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Relevant Tangent posted:Is this also the Iron Kingdoms RPG thread? yes
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Cool. Is there a place where they go into more detail about what it means mechanically when you Do A Thing so hard/well that you get sucked into Urcaen? Some canon about whether the Ascendants/Scions are real or just the Infernals doing soul-fuckery and Menoth is right etc.
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Because the whole "Infernals come because a debt is owed thing" probably means Thamar lied about where magic came from and it's entirely plausible that as terrible as He is Menoth is also the only hope for a reasonably non-poo poo afterlife.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Cool. Is there a place where they go into more detail about what it means mechanically when you Do A Thing so hard/well that you get sucked into Urcaen? Some canon about whether the Ascendants/Scions are real or just the Infernals doing soul-fuckery and Menoth is right etc. Not really. That's mostly just a GM fiat thing. I don't think there's anything to suggest that the gods aren't real and protecting souls in Urcaen though, considering we can see what happens with the Iosans when that fails (soulless kids). Relevant Tangent posted:Because the whole "Infernals come because a debt is owed thing" probably means Thamar lied about where magic came from and it's entirely plausible that as terrible as He is Menoth is also the only hope for a reasonably non-poo poo afterlife. Yeah it's strongly implied Thamar cut some really awful deal with Infernals to unlock human magic of the non-wilding/divine variety. It's also implied that the Skorne stole their magic from the infernals somehow.
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Well given that Thamar's bargain is really real because the Infernals came back yesterday to claim 2/3 of the souls of humanity and loving angels are coming in to help the fight, I think the cosmology can be pretty well taken at face value.
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So I've been out of the game for a bit what's going? Last I remember was Vinter's kid getting the throne of Cygnar but now it sounds like some crazy poo poo is happening.
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Mohawk Potato posted:So I've been out of the game for a bit what's going? Last I remember was Vinter's kid getting the throne of Cygnar but now it sounds like some crazy poo poo is happening. An evil tree tried to destroy the world and ended up weakening the planar boundaries, robot cultists are sucking the life energy out of the world to try to create a clockwork goddess, and now demons are invading because Ayn Rand, the goddess sold humans out to them.
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The Infernals have kickin' rad headgear/heads.
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Apparently both Thamar and Morrow both bargained with the infernals, and each of them offered 1/3 of humanities souls? That's what I've heard but I'm honestly really stoked for Oblivion to find out exactly.
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fool_of_sound posted:An evil tree tried to destroy the world and ended up weakening the planar boundaries, robot cultists are sucking the life energy out of the world to try to create a clockwork goddess, and now demons are invading because Ayn Rand, the goddess sold humans out to them. To be fair everything we know of the period says that humanity's backs to the wall and that 1/3 of human souls not going to Infernals was a huge improvement.
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neonchameleon posted:To be fair everything we know of the period says that humanity's backs to the wall and that 1/3 of human souls not going to Infernals was a huge improvement. Yeah we don't know a ton about the Orgoth occupation but it was clearly extremely bad.
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