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420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Let's hear from another big Angela Nagle fan
https://twitter.com/zei_nabq/status/1044240212128395264

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PRESIDENT LADYCOP
Feb 3, 2019

420 Gank Mid posted:

That's not what the chinese exclusion act did you complete moron. You're willfully using lovely euphemisms to paper over your rampant racism with a faux-left veneer. Just like nagle.

I didn't ask you about the exclusion act. I said there are conflicts within the working class itself and you can't just brush them off as racist, you said actually those conflicts really are all rooted in racism, I asked you what about capital flight (it's bad for the workers who are losing their jobs, it's good for the workers who are getting them) or the hiring of non-union labor (it's bad for the unionized workers, it's good for the workers who are desperate enough to scab), and you seem to be saying that yes, those conflicts are just about bad racist workers oppressing minorities, and that I'm a fascist for talking about it.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Don't want to backseat mod or anything but this Nagle chat is really taking over the thread which is meant to be about podcasts.
Two pages of that is probably not what most people want to read.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Those are conflicts between the classes, bosses exploiting labor. What you continue to refuse to address are the impacts anti-immigration laws have on workers both foreign and domestic. These laws dont punish capital for fleeing they punish workers and expose them to even harsher exploitation. So long as immigration enforcement and 'border security' are the framing of the argument you have already ceded all ground to the right and given up hope for tackling that exploitation. You have become the scab forsaking solidarity and taking short term gain (if any even) at the expense of other workers who are being put in concentration camps while you think "actually open borders are bad, i'm the real leftist"

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

PRESIDENT LADYCOP posted:

So, like, if somebody objects to having their job outsourced to a different country where their boss can get away with paying a lower wage, or a union member objects to their boss hiring migrants at less than the union wage, the only basis for those objections is white supremacy? And, let me guess, if they're politically organized enough to get the state to intervene in their favor, that's fascism? I understand now, the true left-wing position is the abolition of unions and labor parties.

PRESIDENT LADYCOP posted:

I didn't ask you about the exclusion act. I said there are conflicts within the working class itself and you can't just brush them off as racist, you said actually those conflicts really are all rooted in racism, I asked you what about capital flight (it's bad for the workers who are losing their jobs, it's good for the workers who are getting them) or the hiring of non-union labor (it's bad for the unionized workers, it's good for the workers who are desperate enough to scab), and you seem to be saying that yes, those conflicts are just about bad racist workers oppressing minorities, and that I'm a fascist for talking about it.


The true left wing position is obviously to turn on other exploited workers instead of bosses.

This is pretty much 'we gotta get more racist so the nazis will like us'.

Hot tip: they won't ever like you

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
the new premium chapo is good on borders, concentration camps, etc.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

420 Gank Mid posted:

"Lenin, like Robespierre, did nothing wrong"
-Michael Duncan

he was actually somewhat sympathetic to robespierre in the french revolution series. pointing out that he was the only one against the insane war against the entirety of europe everyone else wanted to start, the extremity of the conditions he found himself in, and that he only seemed to go off the deep end after he was struck by an illness

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
i dont know anything about angela nagle, it could be that she personally is lovely and right wing or whatever, but it is correct that dismissing an entire section of the population as irredeemable deplorables ala Hillary Clinton is a losing, dumb strategy.

this is one of the most striking anecdotes from 2008: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/on-road-western-pennsylvania/

quote:

So a canvasser goes to a woman’s door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she’s planning to vote for. She isn’t sure, has to ask her husband who she’s voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, “We’re votin’ for the n***er!”

Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: “We’re voting for the n***er.”

even a racist pieces of poo poo care enough about their material conditions to bring themselves to vote for a black man to the highest position in the country, because (at the time) candidate Obama represented a chance for genuine structural reform and economic relief. then it turned out to be another in the long chain of neoliberal administrations and pennsylvania went to trump.

you don't need to run on a racist platform, you don't need to appeal to racism, but if material conditions are dire enough if you run on a genuine and credible left wing platform that will deliver relief to these people, you'll get votes out of sheer economic necessity.

the reason democrats don't get these votes is because they're lying and clearly obviously not going to reform the system (barring maybe Sanders) and deliver this, and most voters have figured it out and stay home/vote for the cultural red meat.

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

Let's talk about how quillette is supposed to be pronounced instead. Will pronounced it to like QUILL-it on one of the recent chapo eps. Seems wrong to me. I think it should be quill-ETTE

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

in my head, this is the correct pronunciation. but if you find me talking about that website out loud, please euthanize me

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer
I officially caught up with Revolutions today, and I'm feeling lost. at least listening to Bakunin's insane life was super interesting. motherfucker circumnavigated the world after being in prisons for more than a decade and then being gulag'd

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

Mayor Dave posted:

Where is girls chat

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
that's the only post thats brought up girls chat and yet it is the only good podcast mentioned in the entire thread? hmmm

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

that's the only post thats brought up girls chat and yet it is the only good podcast mentioned in the entire thread? hmmm

Is that the one with the host who clearly has Munchausen syndrome?

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
oh yeah they are riddled with mental illness

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
i would actually encourage folks in the thread to visit her go fund me (https://www.gofundme.com/help-me-treat-my-complex-disease) and contribute to Ashley's continuing healing at the very capable hands of Dr. Bela Chheda at the Center for Complex Diseases

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
man that's a bummer, you hate to see it

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

$55 in the last hour. decent grift

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

-Small fiber neuropathy
-Dysautonomia
-Antiphospholipid syndrome
-A bacterial infection of mycoplasma
-Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome
-Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
-Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome
-Autoimmunity of some kind
-a genetic mutation that prevents proper uptake of vitamin B12 and folate
-adrenal hypofunction


I don't think somebody could have that many chronic diseases and still be alive

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Oh poo poo, I missed that she might also have Craniocervical Instability, which I think is the technical term for being a Necromorph

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


on today's chapo, which i assumed was recorded last night, matt said he would start watching the view tomorrow (i.e. today, tuesday), here's to hoping he caught this

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1143603303416238080

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

on today's chapo, which i assumed was recorded last night, matt said he would start watching the view tomorrow (i.e. today, tuesday), here's to hoping he caught this

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1143603303416238080

He couldn't lift her because of her giant bazongas.

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHbrNz1RUVY

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Grevling posted:

He couldn't lift her because of her giant bazongas.

you nevah seen a baby wit' giant tits before, eh

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Gripweed posted:

-Small fiber neuropathy
-Dysautonomia
-Antiphospholipid syndrome
-A bacterial infection of mycoplasma
-Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome
-Mast Cell Activation Syndrome
-Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome
-Autoimmunity of some kind
-a genetic mutation that prevents proper uptake of vitamin B12 and folate
-adrenal hypofunction


I don't think somebody could have that many chronic diseases and still be alive

lmao this is some high level stuff to be skipping right over fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome, though i think she's splitting off IBS into several of those which is gonna cost her some points


Grevling posted:

He couldn't lift her because of her giant bazongas.

it's what ended up destroying his brain

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
had to google "small fiber neuropathy" just to confirm it wasn't a new name for Morgellons

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Dr. Killjoy posted:

had to google "small fiber neuropathy" just to confirm it wasn't a new name for Morgellons

it's real and it sucks

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

i would actually encourage folks in the thread to visit her go fund me (https://www.gofundme.com/help-me-treat-my-complex-disease) and contribute to Ashley's continuing healing at the very capable hands of Dr. Bela Chheda at the Center for Complex Diseases

https://centerforcomplexdiseases.business.site/
this url is very funny to me for some reason

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/charlesraustin/status/1143557194136399872?s=19

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



lmao tom myers

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
lthis chapo interview with marianne has, uh, a lot going on

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Finicums Wake posted:

lthis chapo interview with marianne has, uh, a lot going on

oh gently caress yes

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
welcum 2 the holistic integrative conciousness

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
fun drinking game: take a shot for every time Marianne drops a famous person quote that you'd see on an inspirational office poster. two for every time Virgil does it

The Arab!
May 22, 2010
Grubstakers
https://www.patreon.com/grubstakers
https://soundcloud.com/grubstakers

https://twitter.com/grubstakerspod

Billionaire biography podcast
I'd recommend the Jeffery Epstein episode w/ Matt Christman they have pinned on their soundcloud.

Kino Lefter
https://www.patreon.com/kinolefter

https://twitter.com/kinolefter

Leftist film review podcast

The Arab! has issued a correction as of 07:23 on Jun 26, 2019

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i say swears online posted:

oh gently caress yes

oh my god her vietnam story

Durf
Aug 16, 2017




Finicums Wake posted:

lthis chapo interview with marianne has, uh, a lot going on

finish a beer every time you hear Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Einstein, Kent State, Vietnam

i call this drinking game The Wonder Beers

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Oh hey Tiffany Caban won her city DA primary against some white lady corporate lawyer who clearly had the “black vote on her side” as that one dipshit put it

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1143719439042514944?s=21

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer
This week's Dollop is about a sitting state congressman in Washington who's one of the militia crazies, Matt Shea. always good to get a deep dive on some specific weirdo that currently wields actual power

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AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009
Listened to Chelsea's first episode on the Clinton Foundation podcast and learned that problems with childhood literacy are exclusively the fault of poor parents who don't take time out to sing and read to their kids. Also the loving word "library" is mentioned once on the end, the whole focus is the Clinton Foundation putting books in laundromats because the poors love spending time there.
The loving name of the program is Too Small to Fail.
:wtc:

So yeah, my hate is incredibly pure now, went from burning orange to blue.

AceRimmer has issued a correction as of 14:08 on Jun 26, 2019

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