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it's gonna be more helpful if you can tell us where and when you will be driving all the cars posted are fine in snow but if you're gonna be trying to go through truckee in the winter or whatever, yeah, you want something different same with rough roads - for some potholes, broken pavement, dirt roads, all will be fine but if you are going out in the desert on remote and not maintained roads, something like a 4runner is gonna be better the prius is perfectly good it's just very dull to drive. you should drive one and find out because if you can tolerate the way it drives, it is extremely economical
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it's gonna be more helpful if you can tell us where and when you will be driving I really wish I knew- it's going to start out in the Vegas HQ but then they might send me out anywhere in the state. I'll email the guy I interviewed with and ask edit: heard back, he said that he didn't know exactly where I'd be, but snow would be minimal and all the roads he drives on just fine in his Corolla. So I'll pass on the 4Runner for now. kingcobweb fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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zapplez posted:If you are hung up on a wagon and were willing to deal with a VW, you might as well go full baller. None of these are a e55/63 AMG wagon 
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kingcobweb posted:Budget: <$20k You owe it to add the latest gen Honda Civic to your competition. Its a better drivers car than the Toyota compacts and its going to last forever. If you #1 and 2 concern are reliability and fuel economy, you should get the Corolla, but if its just a tit too pedestrian for you, check out the Civic.
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shovelbum posted:Hey Vegas guy if there's a chance that you're going to be driving this thing for work all over Nevada find out exactly what that means in terms of the quality of roads you're going to be on, Nevada outside Vegas is like a pile of uninhabited rocks. And for fucks sake, don't drive anywhere near Goldfield. I felt like I was gonna get lynched.
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Shine posted:And for fucks sake, don't drive anywhere near Goldfield. I felt like I was gonna get lynched. Goldfield was once the most populous city in the state! 
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Proposed Budget: < 35k New or Used: Either Body Style: sedan How will you be using the car?: 45min commute with 20-30min bumper-to-bumper. Also have a kid so there will be a carseat. What aspects are most important to you? Need navigation as the wife has no sense of direction. I think CarPlay will also work. Want a decent sound system. Is there a hybrid that isn't totally crap to drive? If I don't get a hybrid I'll almost definitely get a manual. Otherwise I'm looking at the mazda 3 or civic si. Or should I get the hybrid and talk my wife into a miata next year?
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I mean, a Porsche 918 is a hybrid, but good luck at $35k.
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Spite posted:Proposed Budget: < 35k Prius now and Miata next year is a very good solution.
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nm posted:None of these are a e55/63 AMG wagon I've kind of hosed around with buying an AMG E but the problem is the normal E wagon is really, really good and you can buy one and then stuff $40k in your pocket vs the AMG
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Maksimus54 posted:Prius now and Miata next year is a very good solution. Corolla hybrid is supposedly a bit more lively than the competition.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I've kind of hosed around with buying an AMG E but the problem is the normal E wagon is really, really good and you can buy one and then stuff $40k in your pocket vs the AMG Yes, but who doesn't want a corvette murdering station wagon?
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nm posted:Yes, but who doesn't want a corvette murdering station wagon? i've just decided that i don't want one $40,000 worth
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i've just decided that i don't want one $40,000 worth I hate when BFC beats AI.
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Spite posted:Proposed Budget: < 35k If you want a reasonably-priced hybrid, I've been reading good things about the new (19+) Honda Insight as an alternative to a Prius. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a21622895/2019-honda-insight-first-drive-review/ https://www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/insight/2019/2019-toyota-prius-2019-honda-insight-hybrid-comparison-review/ "I've hardly driven 100 feet out of our parking lot before I'm already talking to myself: "Wow, this thing's steering and brakes feel worlds better than the Prius."
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The Accord Hybrid is decent to drive and a bit bigger than the Insight
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The Camry Solara is just a 2 door Camry right? I'm not seeing any major reports of problems with them. Edit: 2nd gen, not for me, for my mom's coworker.
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i thought it was a camry convertible offhand later on they got avalon powertrains but early ones should be pretty much a camry
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Spite posted:Proposed Budget: < 35k I have been driving my 2019 Honda Insight Touring for nearly a year now and it's been fantastic. I originally wanted a Hybrid but couldn't stand the Prius. I tried some others, but automakers like to just put a hybrid battery into another car and pretend it's fine but then the mileage is poo poo and the engine is underpowered (like the Malibu Hybrid with like 20% of the trunk occupied permanently by the battery). Also usually the handling in Hybrids is... off, like in the Prius. The Insight was the only hybrid I actually enjoyed driving so I ended up buying it. Mine has CarPlay which works perfect with my iPhone. All the computer bits work just fine. Supposedly Honda hybrid batteries are less reliable than their competitors, though, but I don't know anything about that yet. If you have any questions for me I can answer them here or via PM.
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Do friends let friends buy Maxima's?
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TheReverend posted:Do friends let friends buy Maxima's? Only they buy brand new and get really lovely financing.
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How "bad with money" would it be to replace a perfectly functional 2012 Subaru Outback with a Kona EV or Bolt EV? The car is being used as a daily driver ~15 miles a day with 4-8 300-mi trips per year.
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theHUNGERian posted:How "bad with money" would it be to replace a perfectly functional 2012 Subaru Outback with a Kona EV or Bolt EV? The car is being used as a daily driver ~15 miles a day with 4-8 300-mi trips per year. It's only a smart move if you get the Bolt in Shock. (My understanding is the Kona is just better, but it doesn't come in Shock so...)
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Duck and Cover posted:It's only a smart move if you get the Bolt in Shock. (My understanding is the Kona is just better, but it doesn't come in Shock so...) And a Tesla and Jaguar I-Pace would only be worse with money, right?
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theHUNGERian posted:How "bad with money" would it be to replace a perfectly functional 2012 Subaru Outback with a Kona EV or Bolt EV? The car is being used as a daily driver ~15 miles a day with 4-8 300-mi trips per year. If you can wait a little you might save money by buying a used EV since they tend to depreciate quickly.
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Cascadia Pirate posted:If you can wait a little you might save money by buying a used EV since they tend to depreciate quickly. A used 2013 Model S is only 40k now ! 
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Cascadia Pirate posted:If you can wait a little you might save money by buying a used EV since they tend to depreciate quickly. Since my existing car is just fine at the moment, and since I go by "Replace it when repair costs become excessive" I am in no rush to replace my current car. I am just trying to figure out if there are any long term savings if I replace my car now, rather than wait until I run the current car into the ground (which can easily take 10 years). FilthyImp posted:A used 2013 Model S is only 40k now ! The crew in the EV anticipation thread on AI does not speak very highly of Teslas (not sure if they are  ), but I would prefer to buy from an established company.
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I can't speak to Tesla, but Leafs had the second or third highest depreciation of any car over the last five years and are perfect commuter cars if you can live the EV life. Before buying new I'd look at the used prices to get a feel. Keep in mind new EVs have tax incentives in the US.
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Cascadia Pirate posted:... if you can live the EV life ... What does this mean? Can you elaborate?
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theHUNGERian posted:What does this mean? Can you elaborate? A place to charge, don't need the car for long trips, etc.
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theHUNGERian posted:What does this mean? Can you elaborate? Your 300 mile trips are going to take 4 or 5 hours longer. You have to remember to keep your car charged. If you're low on juice, you can't just run down to the gas station and top it up. You have to make some adjustments to how you think about using your car and do more planning.
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theHUNGERian posted:The crew in the EV anticipation thread on AI does not speak very highly of Teslas (not sure if they are And, you know, there's the Autopilot that can wreck you . Your commute is small enough that you could get a Plug-In Hybrid and still be good for the longer trips you take. You can easily find a Spark EV or older Leaf that would handle your daily like a champ, but would be murder on that 400mile trip. You'd either need to be a very good planner and cool with a few stops and downtime, or keep an ICE car for the long haul (though you could always rent one I guess).
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Got it. I thought that "life" meant "lifetime of car" and was different from "range on full charge". Edit: I do not mind having a 1-hour stop on my 300 mile trips to charge the car. But anything longer or more frequent than that will test my patience. theHUNGERian fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Jun 30, 2019 |
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theHUNGERian posted:Edit: I do not mind having a 1-hour stop on my 300 mile trips to charge the car. But anything longer or more frequent than that will test my patience. A PHEV would probably be a better match for you, but I'm not sure the Gen1 Volts are going to be as cheap as an older Leaf, though. At least those will ket you switch to ICE for the longer trips.
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TheReverend posted:Do friends let friends buy Maxima's? Not from the CVT era. This applies to all Nissans.
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If I were looking for a used Kia or Hyundai, what are the good models and years for them? My understanding is that at some point they turned the corner on reliability but it'd be nice to have some guidelines.
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Early to mid 00's. Like, I think the second Gen Sportage was a "good" model and came out in '04.
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Uthor posted:Early to mid 00's. Like, I think the second Gen Sportage was a "good" model and came out in '04. Oh wow, that long ago? I was looking in the 2010-12 range. That helps a lot.
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theHUNGERian posted:And a Tesla and Jaguar I-Pace would only be worse with money, right? Well the Tesla comes in dull colors. Photon red I-Pace might be alright. But come on  .
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theHUNGERian posted:Since my existing car is just fine at the moment, and since I go by "Replace it when repair costs become excessive" I am in no rush to replace my current car. I am just trying to figure out if there are any long term savings if I replace my car now, rather than wait until I run the current car into the ground (which can easily take 10 years). Can you plug in your car at home? This may be a problem if you live in an apartment. Do you live somewhere with cold winters? Cold greatly reduces range, and you will need a level 2 charger (240 volt outlet + stuff) at home to properly charge in the cold. If you got a 100 mile range EV you could just rent a car for the occasional long trip I recently bought a Niro EV which is the cousin of the Kona EV so I can tell you about what it's like to drive, but there are several other things to consider. Like how it is not available in Shock.
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