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Bruno's not allowed to lick people anymore. Court order.
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I don't think anyone was saying that Araki Forgetting Stuff Is Good And Intentional, but that hey, sometimes writers just do stuff that's funny. Bruno licking people is a reactionary moment, Kakyoin eating cherries like that is hilarous, Giorno stuffing his ear into itself is weird, and those things can just be those things by themselves. There are absolutely plotholes in JoJo that exist because Araki forgot or didn't care about them anymore or changed his mind, and I won't say They're Actually Purposeful, but I do think they're bit of a signature thing at this point and I can't blame him when he's writing and drawing all of this in seven days for fifteen plus years
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Jun 26, 2019 01:58
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Plot Hole: Why doesn't kira simply attack josuke with a giant turtle? Kojima-sensei really fouled up on this one.
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Jun 26, 2019 02:23
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If Jotaro's goal really is to save as many lives as possible in a long-term utilitarian caucus, why doesn't he immediately and exclusively use star platinum to crank a dynamo that powers an independently-funded coastal US concern that is researching consumer-grade cryogenic freezing
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Jun 26, 2019 02:25
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Why does Jonathan, the largest Joestar, not simply eat the other Joestars?
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Jun 26, 2019 02:31
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Expect My Mom posted:Absolutely losing at people calling Bruno's face-licking an "ability" he has
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Jun 26, 2019 02:53
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Expect My Mom posted:I don't think anyone was saying that Araki Forgetting Stuff Is Good And Intentional, but that hey, sometimes writers just do stuff that's funny. Bruno licking people is a reactionary moment, Kakyoin eating cherries like that is hilarous, Giorno stuffing his ear into itself is weird, and those things can just be those things by themselves. Yeah that's fair, but it's also fine to criticize Araki for Giorno saying he does not like repeating himself at first then proceeding to do that basically every future episode. While it's arguable that he sees talking to Luca and the Gang differently, all things considered it is most likely that simply Araki forgot... Because, let's be honest, he does that a lot, especially in part 5. We've been over Giorno's issues a million times, we can add that to the pile and move on without saying that keeping characterization consistent is too difficult for weekly manga writers to successfully do or arguing that Josuke is a good character because him getting mad about people dissing his hair only happens when he's introduced. Partly because the latter one is false! Josuke's hair complex has a traditional payoff in that it leads to him going berserk on Rohan and trashing his office, thus cementing their dislike for each other, so it's not an appropriate example to use. I would argue this is one of the (many) reasons Josuke is one of the better jojos, because it's not just his powers but also his personality that is more traditionally written and keeps the wacky one-off character moments to a minimum. I love the licking of liars and cherries both but they don't replace proper characterization.
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Jun 26, 2019 03:02
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The licking thing is just more tied into him being a creepy weirdo in his first appearance that doesn't really match with how he is after the fact, but that's not exactly rare for Jojo. Okuyasu had shades of this, and Kakyoin had the weird painting thing. Josuke's hair not being a thing after Rohan is more a "wait, that was it?" sort of realization in hindsight rather than something that was forgotten. It had a resolution, it just seemed like there was going to be more (because of the origin story) but what you see is what you get.
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Jun 26, 2019 03:05
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yeah actually they will posted:Plot Hole: Why doesn't kira simply attack josuke with a giant turtle? Kojima-sensei really fouled up on this one.
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Jun 26, 2019 03:15
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Speaking of licking, Rohan licks spiders. ...There's a lot of licking in jojo.
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Jun 26, 2019 03:29
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Johnny Joestar posted:joseph's dumb phrase-guessing thing got old as poo poo I hate you.
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Jun 26, 2019 03:57
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punk rebel ecks posted:I hate you.
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Jun 26, 2019 04:14
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Weird that they dropped Joseph's ability to perfectly disguise himself as a beautiful woman.
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Jun 26, 2019 04:19
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Nessus posted:Joseph's thing exactly and precisely fulfilled its welcome, IMO. More than another episode or two and he would've started looking lovely and dull. But they didn't bring it back for Stardust Crusaders other than that one episode. 
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Jun 26, 2019 04:20
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PringleCreamEgg posted:Weird that they dropped Joseph's ability to perfectly disguise himself as a beautiful woman. My personal head canon is that he'd have brought out the makeup and dress for the other parts, too, if Jotaro or someone else hadn't stopped him. "This D'arby guy is pretty good at games, but I bet a shut-in like him would instantly lose his cool if a beautiful woman were to walk into the room..." "I heard DIO has an insatiable appetite for women. I know it's a dangerous gambit, but we need every edge we can get against him, so it's a risk I'll have to take..." "How are we going to find an invisible baby? I know, I'll dress like her mommy, and instead she'll be the one crawling to us."
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Jun 26, 2019 04:33
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Why don't they use hamon and stands?
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Jun 26, 2019 04:37
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dr.acula posted:Why don't they use hamon and stands? Joseph did, but since Hamon is only useful against vampires, there's no reason for anyone else to learn it with all the vampires being super dead.
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Jun 26, 2019 05:02
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GimmickMan posted:Yeah that's fair, but it's also fine to criticize Araki for Giorno saying he does not like repeating himself at first then proceeding to do that basically every future episode. While it's arguable that he sees talking to Luca and the Gang differently, all things considered it is most likely that simply Araki forgot... Because, let's be honest, he does that a lot, especially in part 5. We've been over Giorno's issues a million times, we can add that to the pile and move on without saying that keeping characterization consistent is too difficult for weekly manga writers to successfully do or arguing that Josuke is a good character because him getting mad about people dissing his hair only happens when he's introduced. Totally agreed! Buccaletti is an excellent example, going from a creepy threatening licking weirdo to a wise noble boss. Josuke is my number 2 JoJo, Joseph is my number 1. He's consistent from episode 1 and I love all his tricks (his guessing what you'll say next never got old to me). In fact I was really disappointed with how he was presented in 4, they made a big deal of him showing up then when he finally appears he's a sad old man who does nothing at all. We don't even see him meet his daughter, and I was definitely expecting some kind of interesting conflict between him and Josuke. But invisible baby lol
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Jun 26, 2019 05:14
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Kwyndig posted:Joseph did, but since Hamon is only useful against vampires, there's no reason for anyone else to learn it with all the vampires being super dead. It does other stuff like walking on water and leaf hang-gliders, but throwing nonsensical life-energy abilities into peoples' toolkits on top of stands would get ridiculous quickly.
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Jun 26, 2019 05:27
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Gruckles posted:It does other stuff like walking on water and leaf hang-gliders, but throwing nonsensical life-energy abilities into peoples' toolkits on top of stands would get ridiculous quickly. So you are saying it should be brought back?
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Jun 26, 2019 05:42
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Gruckles posted:It does other stuff like walking on water and leaf hang-gliders, but throwing nonsensical life-energy abilities into peoples' toolkits on top of stands would get ridiculous quickly. but enough about gold experience
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Jun 26, 2019 05:51
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I mean if Joseph had kept up with his Hamon he probably wouldn’t have been such a wreck in Part 4. I mean, look at Lisa Lisa 
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Jun 26, 2019 08:13
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Lisa Lisa immediately barging into the fake RAF officer's chambers and one-shotting him right after hearing of her husband's murder is still the #1 most badass move in all of JoJo for me.
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Jun 26, 2019 08:35
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Jojo is a good comedy. Repeating stuff is bad for comedy. Do people actually hate the painting Kakyoin made, and stuff like that? gently caress, sometimes I just remember something and say to my boyfriend "hey remember that time when character just did a thing?" and we share a laugh. I kinda think that's why Jojo is so famous, and why there are so many memes floating around. It's a loving dumb show that's very self-aware and sincere.
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Jun 26, 2019 10:47
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punk rebel ecks posted:So you are saying it should be brought back? Hamon was cool but it overcomplicates things. Most of its practical effects that aren't "makes vampires dead" are covered by various people's Stand bullshit anyway. Araki even kind of explains it that you have to have the talent. Speedwagon probably could've popped a Stand if he got hit by the arrow but he couldn't breathe good breathes. All the post-Joseph Jojos probably could've learned it but Jotaro was pressed for time AND had a power already, Josuke had no vampires to deal with, and Giorno would just use it to drink more piss.
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Jun 26, 2019 11:06
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https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1143354481712795649
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Jun 26, 2019 13:32
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Kwyndig posted:Joseph did, but since Hamon is only useful against vampires, there's no reason for anyone else to learn it with all the vampires being super dead. Didnt it have healing properties as well? I mean sure it's hard to maintain but it seemed to have a lot of health benefits and grant extended lifetime.
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Jun 26, 2019 13:56
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Yeah, I mean he could have made a killing teaching breathing exercises to folks with the promise of better health and reduced aging. Hell, people do poo poo like that even when it's not an actual, demonstrable superpower.
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Jun 26, 2019 14:02
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What the hell
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Jun 26, 2019 14:41
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Electric Phantasm posted:What the hell Oh you didn't know that McAfee was as criminally insane as he is rich?
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Jun 26, 2019 14:45
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Rudoku posted:Oh you didn't know that McAfee was as criminally insane as he is rich? No and I thought he disappeared a while back.
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Jun 26, 2019 14:48
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John McAfee Wants To Live A Quite Life
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Jun 26, 2019 14:51
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If he's that rich he can afford to hire someone to dress as his stand and follow him around.
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Jun 26, 2019 15:02
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MacAfee's stand would be Scatman John 
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Jun 26, 2019 15:16
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Momomo posted:Josuke's hair not being a thing after Rohan is more a "wait, that was it?" sort of realization in hindsight rather than something that was forgotten. It had a resolution, it just seemed like there was going to be more (because of the origin story) but what you see is what you get. Yeah, I don't have a problem with the fact it didn't come up again. I think the only thing that was forgotten about Josuke is that he can't fix things properly when he's mad, which only was really a thing until Angelo died. But then, he punched through a hostage and that guy Angelo was possessing and fixed them both with no problem, so 
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Jun 26, 2019 15:46
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In hindsight it's no surprise that McAfee identifies strongly with Jotaro, as they both have a documented interest in aquatic mammals.
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Jun 26, 2019 15:47
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I think the only thing that was forgotten about Josuke is that he can't fix things properly when he's mad, which only was really a thing until Angelo died. Tell that to Terunosuke Miyamoto.
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Jun 26, 2019 15:49
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John McAfee and his stand, 「ＷＨＡＬＥ ＯＮ ＴＨＩＳ」
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Jun 26, 2019 16:59
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Carlosologist posted:I mean if Joseph had kept up with his Hamon he probably wouldn’t have been such a wreck in Part 4. I'm not sure if this was in supplementary material or fan speculation, but somewhere it was suggested he let go of his training so he would grow old with Suzie Q.
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Alan_Shore posted:We don't even see him meet his daughter, and I was definitely expecting some kind of interesting conflict between him and Josuke. But invisible baby lol Tomoko? Or are you talking about how Holly never shows up again? Dragonatrix posted:Tell that to Terunosuke Miyamoto. Okay, aside from that other time. Personally, I always saw that as "Josuke can intentionally heal someone wrong". Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jun 26, 2019 |
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