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Jerry Cotton posted:Did prohibition lead to people drinking only hard liquor, and more violent crime (including domestic violence) in the US like it did in Finland? I believe the only noticeable increase in crime was in organized crime, as banning the most popular intoxicant in the world laid the perfect groundwork for smuggling and moonshining to be taken over by large organizations. The prominence of gangsters like Al Capone and Bugsy Siegel is directly due to Prohibition giving them the perfect market. It's like how the War on Drugs is actually intensifying drug wars and giving more power to drug producers and smugglers; if cocaine and the like were legalized and regulated, the drug cartels would likely collapse with their biggest market gone.
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chitoryu12 posted:if cocaine and the like were legalized and regulated, the drug cartels would likely collapse with their biggest market gone. If governments made and distributed narcotics that was guaranteed to be clean, while supplying free/cheap clean needles not only would using drugs be safer, but even if they heavily tax them it would still be much cheaper. The amount of drug abuse related hospital costs would drop, crime (to pay for drugs) would drop, and the instant an MP / senator stands up and mentions anything like this, I imagine their career is instantly over.
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My favorite "fact" that I read on the internet about prohibition is that many of the prohibitionists saw no problem with taking the freaky turn of the century miracle tonics. So they're all hopped up on "medicine" but god forbid you drink whiskey. Good thing we've learned our lesson about prescription drugs so that will never happen again.     My kind of party! WoooOO!
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Jun 27, 2019 16:07
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Anime.
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Ak Gara posted:If governments made and distributed narcotics that was guaranteed to be clean, while supplying free/cheap clean needles not only would using drugs be safer, but even if they heavily tax them it would still be much cheaper. The amount of drug abuse related hospital costs would drop, crime (to pay for drugs) would drop, and the instant an MP / senator stands up and mentions anything like this, I imagine their career is instantly over. Yep. There's still a perception that drug abuse is a moral failing and that the only way to prevent it from happening is to harshly punish the very existence of drugs. Suggesting that you legalize and tax heroin and provide safe methods of consumption in regulated areas would go down about as well as suggesting that we strap razor blades to babies' hands.
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chitoryu12 posted:Yep. There's still a perception that drug abuse is a great way to fill up for-profit prisons.
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youknowthatoneguy posted:Anime. This is canon.
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Lobok posted:They hadn't discovered the combination of sweet and salty yet. The key ingredient in nearly everything back then was hard drugs and that was good enough. Laudanum fro-yo is delicious 
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bare bottom pancakes posted:This was brought up in the Eva thread in ADTRW. Turns out Japan has had a history of far-left terror attacks in its history, and as the Netflix translation is incredibly literal they left that line as-is. https://twitter.com/spookperson/status/1144169237998518272
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Lmao heroin is only bad because Cops hot take post machine toot toot
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youknowthatoneguy posted:Anime. Is there a comic about his son, Hentai F. Anime, expanding family business? Paladinus has a new favorite as of 17:04 on Jun 27, 2019 |
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Americans were super drunks before prohibition. quote:Early Americans even took a healthful dram for breakfast, whiskey was a typical lunchtime tipple, ale accompanied supper and the day ended with a nightcap. Continuous imbibing clearly built up a tolerance as most Americans in 1790 consumed an average 5.8 gallons of pure alcohol a year. quote:In 1830, consumption peaked at 7.1 gallons a year and drinking became a moral issue. quote:Americans drink an average of 2.3 gallons of pure alcohol a year compared to 7.1 gallons in 1830. I thought there was a quote in Maggie: A Girl of the Streets where one of the characters buys a bucket of gin but I couldn't find it. I've also heard stories of bars selling gin-soaked rags that people could suck on to get them through the day.
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Alcohol use is a problem and has been a problem (even more so). The mob is sort of small potatoes and always was.
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Family story time! When I was around 10 months old, I caught a very bad intestinal infection/bug/something. Anything I ate would go right through me, and I was losing weight at a dangerous rate. The Doctors were trying everything they could, but they couldn't get me better. As I was very much slowly dying in front of my parents, my grandmother (who was a nurse at the time and very old school) told the Pediatrician that he was prescribing me Paregoric and she and him were going to give it to me. When the Doctor went basically "what? no!" she pointed out that nothing else worked and I was going to die in a little while despite their best efforts. He prescribed it, and the opium calmed everything down enough that food would last long enough in my intestine for nutrients to be absorbed. That was the time a patent medicine saved my life.
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LawfulWaffle posted:Americans were super drunks before prohibition. The whiskey cocktail that we now call the Old Fashioned was originally meant as a morning cocktail to help you feel better from the previous night. Oh, and “julep” is an old term for medicine! The Mint Julep was a way of day drinking with a wink, like when someone takes a big bong hit and jokes “Oh I have glaucoma.” And bitters were medicinal. Adding a few drops to a cocktail was the exact same justification.
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Pick posted:Lmao heroin is only bad because Cops hot take post machine toot toot heroin is worse because cops people are going to shoot up whether heroin is legal or not so best not exacerbate the sitch, comrade
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Thanks for those examples. Now see here where I look up some stuff that [gasp] shows dinosaurs were also around before prohibition.
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LawfulWaffle posted:Americans were super drunks before prohibition. Yeah, Americans were super drunks 80 years before Prohibition for a number of reasons including lack of transportation making "turn it into booze" the best option for a lot of crops. By the early 20th century though? Overall alcohol consumption was very similar to today. Reactionaries responding to problems as they were decades ago is nothing new though, as you can see from people today still proposing draconian new solutions to a national crime wave that ended over 20 years ago.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Thanks for those examples. Now see here where I look up some stuff that [gasp] shows dinosaurs were also around before prohibition. Prohibition killed the dinosaurs? Those fuckers!!! 
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Pick posted:Alcohol use is a problem and has been a problem (even more so). The mob is sort of small potatoes and always was. Pick anti fun, who would have guessed?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Prohibition killed the dinosaurs? Those fuckers!!! [charlton_heston_pounding_the_surf_but_with_dissappointed_from_hercules_audio.mpeg]
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Pick posted:Lmao heroin is only bad because Cops hot take post machine toot toot It's also because of capitalism
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Pick posted:Alcohol use is a problem and has been a problem (even more so). The mob is sort of small potatoes and always was. widespread alcohol abuse is a symptom of a deeper societal problem that is not fixed by banning alcohol.
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Tashilicious posted:widespread alcohol abuse is a symptom of a deeper societal problem that is not fixed by banning alcohol. I do agree with this
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trickybiscuits posted:There was a large overlap between suffragettes and advocates for prohibition. Drinking culture in the US before Prohibition could be really extreme and women suffered for it, both because drinking led to domestic abuse and because they were financially dependent on their husbands who could become hopeless alcoholics or spend all their time and money at the saloon. I'm thinking like large salted pretzel, I know there is ice cream with hard small pretzels but a large freshly baked soft pretzel with some ice cream sounds like it would be baller.
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Anime was a mistake
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Well imagine a time before the internet, TV, videogames or porn What the hell was there to do? You could get drunk and talk to other drunks to escape the tedium and the complaints of your fat wife. "Getting drunk" was everyones hobby It still is, unless you're a drat dork you're not a dork are you
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I am a tremendous dork A colossal, monumental dork
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The ur-dork
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Also water back then was usually like 60% raw sewage so booze was a safer option
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Zzulu posted:Well imagine a time before the internet, TV, videogames or porn There were lots of options! You could go see a sack of flour! You could watch a man walk! Or you could put on parades that reliably turn into race riots!
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TontoCorazon posted:I'm thinking like large salted pretzel, I know there is ice cream with hard small pretzels but a large freshly baked soft pretzel with some ice cream sounds like it would be baller. I originally read this as "freakishly baked" and I agree either way, big soft bagel with ice cream sounds pretty good, like fries in a Frosty at Wendy's. Also, LEELOO: 
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I mean, if there was a race between five people where the only rule was "travel as far as you can by foot in six days" I would probably put that on the ol' second monitor. As long as it's not just laps around a track. I want a real cross-country experience (viewed safely at home)
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LawfulWaffle posted:I mean, if there was a race between five people where the only rule was "travel as far as you can by foot in six days" I would probably put that on the ol' second monitor. As long as it's not just laps around a track. I want a real cross-country experience (viewed safely at home) Well they’ve started production on an adaptation of King’s The Long Walk so you might end up getting your wish.
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