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lost my old email posted:Defiants had poor operational range, and were more easily destroyed in combat than the design had promised. With the war's end, a reevaluation was in order. Wasn't the Valiant on a months-long cruise around the entire Federation, and then undertook a deep strike mission? Although I suppose that strike didn't go so well, come to think of it. 
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They had to stretch and fill the beginning of season 5 a bit due to moving about 4 episodes worth of story to the end of season 4, because of fears of cancellation. So the first half is a little sparse. Still good, I think, but a noticeable step back from the heights until it gets amazingly good again about halfway through.
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BABYLON 5 SEASON 5 EPISODE 2 THE VERY LONG NIGHT OF LONDO MOLLARI  with a title like that i am expecting the good stuff IN SPACE we get a little moody piano. delenna and sheridan are snoozing when she is awakened in the night some intern with a trash goatee informs her that lenier is to be replaced londo is brandishing a bottle of delicate centauri liquor and ranting at zack. vir is also there the booze has been impounded for health reasons. londo starts getting the shakes and sneaks a sip, but he collapses londo... has been poisoned! AND SO IT BEGINS A GREAT HAND GET OUT OF OUR GALAXY dr. steve tends to londo. the security team analyse the bottle and vir frets delenn paces, troubled. lenier appears delenn asks wtf is with him just peacing out with no notice lenier is being all passive aggressive and goony about how delenn is all lovey dovey with sheridan and not him delenn points out that he sworn himself to her and this is all some nice guy bullshit lenier has sworn himself to the rangers in memory of cole of all people. also he thinks that by becoming all battle hardened & poo poo delenn will find him sexy and leave sheridan for him jesus christ dude. laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmeeeee vir checks in with garibaldi [/b]PLOT TWIST[/b] londo was not poisoned, he had a heart attack it is the second, more complex centauri heart that is hosed. this is bad news dr. steve blames stress but i would think the constant high living had something to do with it a synthetic will arrive in 3 days but londo has only 24 hours to live delenn and sheridan stand vigil over londo. they discuss lenier acting like a huge goon lord sheridan makes a threeway joke  it keeps getting referenced that londo has to somehow heal himself which i am not totally sure that it is how medicine works DREAM SEQUENCE londo wanders the corridors of his own mind in search of delenn. for budgetary and thematic reasons these are very similar to the corridors of b5 so it is a londo vision quest episode. i am down mind apparition delenn appears to londo as a tarot reader. londo know that he is dying we flash back to his vision of his future death. he thinks it might be pretty sweet to spite fate mind delenn asks him if he wants to live. he eventually says that he would rather prefer it, actually londo must find THE WORD to save his life. delenn will not tell it to him londo looks down a firey a pit. scatch that, he seems to be looking down at his own heart. he is next visited by a vision of g'kar before we get into all that vir is being all emo. lenier sidles up to him to commiserate vir is having a shirley temple. lenier misunderstands in a comical fashion they say goodbye and hug it out. honestly lenier has done not much of anything for the last two seasons vir follows a drozi info a lift and we melt back into londo's mind realm. he chats with an apparition of sheridan about the nature of being dead londo apparently had a first wife who he did not do right by. londo is outraged that the bottles here are all empty and finds the imagery quite on the nose both sheridan and londo know when they will die. sheridan tells him that it is the journey, not the destination aha, londo has to confront his vison of g'kar if he wants to live in the real world, it does not go well. dr. steve manages to stabilise him dr. steve will pull an all nighter. vir will keep him company londo would really prefer not to die. head vir pops in to see him and tells him that he must make the choice to live londo is literally being killed by the weight of his own conscience. he attempts to avoid confronting his feelings about g'kar by pointing out that he knows he dies years later vir guilts him into confronting vision g'kar. actual g'kar arrives on the scene IRL as londo seizures londo is in a projection of the centauri palace. g'kar yells at him we flash back to londo witnessing the ravaging of narn. he tries to blame refa but he did kind of go along with it londo is overcome with guilt. g'kar ladles on some more he tries to guilt him about his treatment at the mad emporer's hand but i recall that londo was actually secretly helping him at that time AHA! but he was still morally obligated to tell them to stop. i think the word he has to find is STOP londo gets whipped while refusing to speak in a callback to what happened to g'kar if i recall the 40th stroke with the electro whip is fatal. londo screams and is saved by dr. steve londo is feeling sorry himself. head g'kar speculates on his own nature, the most intersting of which is a psychic echo of g'kar SORRY might actually be the word. i do not really see how muttering sorry to himself while narn was getting messed up would have made any difference TBH. or when g'kar was getting tortured this is indeed the case. londo breaks down and saves his own life when he awakens, he immediately apologises to the IRL g'kar later, londo is back on top form and is bitching about the hospital food apparently there is a centauri myth that when a good soul is trapped inside a wicked man, it can prematurely "eject" in order to try again in a different life freaky notion lenier heads off. delenn catches up with him and they say their goodbyesi see what they were going for but they already had g'kar and londo palling around at the end of last season. maybe he never actually apologised but i am p. sure they had a whole big thing about them making good back then
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Jun 27, 2019 18:05
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Welp, move over goatse. Too bad there's no .ix or .lix TLD.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Welp, move over goatse. neeli.xxx
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wait that gryphon class looked really good patrol escorts need more defence, they are crazy little glass cannons that can burn capital ships down in seconds but die as soon as a borg ship so much as looks at them, unless you are automating some crazy poo poo with your engineering skills (like a federation coward)
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Jun 27, 2019 18:08
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OK so I've started on TOS watched S101 and S102 last night Casual sexism, casual racism  1960's AF. also : a higher body count in 2 episodes than in a season of Voyager ?
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Ensign Expendable posted:neeli.xxx Hell yes. Someone make it so.
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from our friends over at the ukmt: https://twitter.com/JanelleCShane/status/1144207869887307776 tag yourself
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buttcrackmenace posted:OK so I've started on TOS What was the racism?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:from our friends over at the ukmt: i am almost 8 angry doughnut feelings but i feel like this undersells the variety of ways i can get angry about doughnuts
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Jun 27, 2019 19:14
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People die a lot in TOS. It's the reason "Red shirt" is a popular phrase for expendables. I honestly don't remember any blatant racism from TOS, but I imagine it wouldn't stand up to 2019 standards being a show made in the '60s. 
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Jun 27, 2019 19:15
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Most "racist" thing I remember from TOS was in "City on the Edge of Forever" Kirk said that Spock was Chinese, and his ears got caught in a mechanical rice-picker when explaining his appearance to a cop. Now sexism. . . whoa boy! Buckets full.
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Jun 27, 2019 19:35
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There was a ton of anti Vulcan racism but I dont think that counts
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Jun 27, 2019 19:43
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To be fair, though... Vulcans could be massive douchenozzles
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Bogus Adventure posted:To be fair, though... Vulcans could be massive douchenozzles Yeah but it was all directed at my man Spock who deserves only some of it  also spock was loving right when they were on the giant caveman planet with a short time to escape, and everyone was like "NOOOO WE HAVE TO HOLD FUNERALS" hold it later you dumb shits  when I die throw me in the trash
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Jun 27, 2019 19:47
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Danaru posted:Yeah but it was all directed at my man Spock who deserves only some of it I should have known Frank Reynolds was a goon.
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Jun 27, 2019 19:51
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Blistex posted:Now sexism. . . whoa boy! Buckets full. Turnabout Intruder, holy poo poo.
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Jun 27, 2019 19:56
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lost my old email posted:i am almost 8 angry doughnut feelings but i feel like this undersells the variety of ways i can get angry about doughnuts
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Cessna posted:Turnabout Intruder, holy poo poo. That might be the high water mark for Star Trek sexism. Code of Honour will probably remain the height of Star Trek racism.
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Cessna posted:Turnabout Intruder, holy poo poo. Goes to show you how much has changed, because at the time, that was widely considered to be one of the best episodes of season 3. The only reason it wasnt nominated for an Emmy is because President Eisenhower died.
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Mutiny.
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poverty goat posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZjMGd2b0M
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Tulaberries was DS9
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I'm a risk of alienating myself here, but back on page like 186, there was some heavy defense of Beyond and I've gotta say, that was surprising. I found that whole film lackluster, and by the time they hit the motorcycle scene i was rolling my eyes so hard I think people in the theater heard it.
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The Wonder Weapon posted:I'm a risk of alienating myself here, but back on page like 186, there was some heavy defense of Beyond and I've gotta say, that was surprising. I found that whole film lackluster, and by the time they hit the motorcycle scene i was rolling my eyes so hard I think people in the theater heard it. The action was bad, but the story ideas and character interplay was good IMHO. I also appreciated the nod to the Enterprise's five-year mission currently being on year three. It was blatant pandering to fans, "fandering" if you will, but I liked it.
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Jun 27, 2019 22:18
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The Wonder Weapon posted:I'm a risk of alienating myself here, but back on page like 186, there was some heavy defense of Beyond and I've gotta say, that was surprising. I found that whole film lackluster, and by the time they hit the motorcycle scene i was rolling my eyes so hard I think people in the theater heard it. You're not wrong. It's still the best NüTrek movie.
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Jun 27, 2019 22:19
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It managed to not be completely depressing and it was clear there was at least an attempt to make Star Trek fun. There was a sense that Simon Pegg was at the very least trying to capture some of the cheesiness, idealism and adventure. The motorcycle thing was a little contrived, but pretty much everything else was fun and I liked it. Also it wasn't written by a loving idiot and 9/11 truther, like confirmed piece of trash Into Darkness.
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First of May posted:You're not wrong. It's still the best NüTrek movie. It's been years since I've seen either, but did people not like cum batch movie?
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A tribble brings Kirk back from the dead and the day is saved by Spock becoming an emotional beserker in complete antithesis to everything the character has ever stood for. Also, again, 9/11 trutherism elements.
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The Wonder Weapon posted:It's been years since I've seen either, but did people not like cum batch movie?
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The Wonder Weapon posted:It's been years since I've seen either, but did people not like cum batch movie? Ghostlight posted:it is the worst.
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Onto Black Market BSG season 2. This episode sucks. It's mostly boring but they kill off Jack Fisk in the pre title scene and with him the last of any likeable Pegasus characters.
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Yeah they handled the back end of season 2 very poorly. The last few episodes are pretty good again, then the first few episodes of season 3 are good, then the abyss that is most of season 3. BSG is good when it has 'events' going on, but bad when doing standalones or just trying to tie their crazy mystical plot together.
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The "criminalize abortion" episode and the space racist doctor episodes are also absolute dregs.
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Arcsquad12 posted:The "criminalize abortion" episode and the space racist doctor episodes are also absolute dregs. It was hamfisted as hell but it made sense. It was definitely a miss, not a hit, but it wasn't godawful. edit: the abortion one I mean. Ultimately Roslin's reasoning was spot-on. They needed more people in order to survive, not less.
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The abortion one was the exact type of ethical dilemma episode that setting was made for. I thought it was great (at the time, haven't watched it in a while).
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A lot of the ethical dilemmas in BSG come across as hamfisted because they really really want to play up the Space Racists angle. It's something that the miniseries did better, with Adama's speech questioning whether humanity really deserves to continue after what happened during the Cylon War. But after that most of the nuance is out the window so they can make cracks about the Fracking Toasters. Not that the Cylons are much better, mind you. It just feels like certain elements of the show are lacking the nuance they really need to examine the issue thoroughly. The outlawing abortions episode has a point to make, but it also turns the entire Gemenese population in the fleet into pro-life wingnuts, and also made most of them black as well, so it comes across really hamfisted and even troubling in a lot of ways. Then it also led into the other episode I mentioned where Helo has to stop the crazy doctor from murdering the Gemenese people because they're all turned into these pro-life anti science luddites.
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