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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
FOX News' home page on the debates last night has a HUGE photo of Trump and then a bunch of "headlines" that list his reactions to it.

The main headline says "Crazy Train"


FOX News posted:

SEE IT: Trump mocks NBC, 2020 Dems with doctored video of mic glitch that hampered debate

MEDIA BUZZ: Elizabeth Warren grabs spotlight, MSNBC barely challenges Dem candidates

DAN GAINOR: The 2020 Dem who was embraced by debate moderators

Trump reacts to Democratic primary debate with one word

O'Rourke ducks question on 70 percent tax rate

CAPRI CAFARO: These 6 candidates beat Warren on authenticity, specifics and guts during debate

ADAM BRANDON: Either 72 percent of Americans are wrong or 10 Dem 2020 hopefuls are

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Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



Hi there. I'm creating a video documenting the media's gradual dehumanisation of refugee's, asylum seekers and mexicans in general. I figured this thread would be the best place to check and ask for prime examples of inhumanity. I already have; womp womp, fox dickhead comparing camps to day care, fox dickhead saying migrants being gassed was the highlight of their thanksgiving and new dickhead saying they're "not our kids" so it's no big deal.

I also posted this in the ICE thread but figured this was a great place to ask, too.

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

There are a couple of recent Limbaugh quotes out there. One where he compares migrants arriving at the border to the D-Day invasion (on D-Day remembrance day), and more recently one where he laments the photo of a dead migrant man and his dead toddler, not because of how horrific it is but because Democrats are "using" it to smear Republican policy.

Edit: Here's the migrant photo one. He seems to mock their names by overemphasizing a Latin accent: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...dfVO9tjD5w33Ik2

tek79 fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jun 27, 2019

RasperFat
Jul 11, 2006

Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

Calico Heart posted:

Hi there. I'm creating a video documenting the media's gradual dehumanisation of refugee's, asylum seekers and mexicans in general. I figured this thread would be the best place to check and ask for prime examples of inhumanity. I already have; womp womp, fox dickhead comparing camps to day care, fox dickhead saying migrants being gassed was the highlight of their thanksgiving and new dickhead saying they're "not our kids" so it's no big deal.

I also posted this in the ICE thread but figured this was a great place to ask, too.

Media Matters has loads of articles about the absurd and hateful poo poo the right wing media spews out.

They often have links to the clips as well.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Calico Heart posted:

Hi there. I'm creating a video documenting the media's gradual dehumanisation of refugee's, asylum seekers and mexicans in general. I figured this thread would be the best place to check and ask for prime examples of inhumanity. I already have; womp womp, fox dickhead comparing camps to day care, fox dickhead saying migrants being gassed was the highlight of their thanksgiving and new dickhead saying they're "not our kids" so it's no big deal.

I also posted this in the ICE thread but figured this was a great place to ask, too.

Please link this when you are done. I need a "look at these literal goblins" video I can reference

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

RasperFat posted:

Media Matters has loads of articles about the absurd and hateful poo poo the right wing media spews out.

They often have links to the clips as well.

Newshounds covers FOX news specifically

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Calico Heart posted:

Hi there. I'm creating a video documenting the media's gradual dehumanisation of refugee's, asylum seekers and mexicans in general. I figured this thread would be the best place to check and ask for prime examples of inhumanity. I already have; womp womp, fox dickhead comparing camps to day care, fox dickhead saying migrants being gassed was the highlight of their thanksgiving and new dickhead saying they're "not our kids" so it's no big deal.

I also posted this in the ICE thread but figured this was a great place to ask, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hM5xgDb0Ho&t=91s
Tucker saying Mexico is a hostile power, for you know, being mexican.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
You could try looking at Right Wing Watch as well.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Relentless posted:

I mean they didn't actually do anything to the community except make them click one more time and jack up their CSS. Completely toothless.

It removed all advertising and monetization, removed it from the aggregator, and you can't get search results in there any more. It still exists but it can't produce viral stuff and there's no reason for people to run it since the money is gone.

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
I feel like 4chan and 8chan are more dangerous than almost any other right wing propaganda outlet. Who hosts them? We got Infowars and Stormfront deplatformed and neither of those were as objectively objectionable. Hell, 4chan has even recently started courting advertisers.

The current generation of Neo-Nazis were and are largely being radicalized on these sites, not Fox News.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

Hell, 4chan has even recently started courting advertisers.


Is the year 2007 really recent?

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Isn't 8chan hosted in the Philippines, or something?

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

fishmech posted:

Is the year 2007 really recent?

I understand that the split into two domains, with 4channel being the ‘work safe’ boards was a deliberate move to try and lure in more advertisers.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

I understand that the split into two domains, with 4channel being the ‘work safe’ boards was a deliberate move to try and lure in more advertisers.

As part of their well over a decade of having advertisers and doing things like booting the people who founded and use 8chan, yes.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

I feel like 4chan and 8chan are more dangerous than almost any other right wing propaganda outlet. Who hosts them? We got Infowars and Stormfront deplatformed and neither of those were as objectively objectionable. Hell, 4chan has even recently started courting advertisers.

The current generation of Neo-Nazis were and are largely being radicalized on these sites, not Fox News.

It's still the same dynamic and overall approach though. One feeds off the other and it starts with a basic element of projecting fear and telling people that they're being lied to by the "mainstream" and that only here can you learn what they don't want you to know. I'd throw loving Youtube in there too since we're talking about it.

It's the result of an idea that starts with "what if we let anyone say whatever they wanted with no censorship, moderation and with complete freedom?"

Sounds good, right?

I'd say the results are in that it's not such a great idea in execution and we've reached the point where, if we point it out, we're accused of making GBS threads on free speech and therefore it is US who the nazis. FOX News just lends an air of legitimacy to it all (somehow) by offering essentially the same thing for some of the same reasons, only iced over with a veneer of credibility based soley on their ratings and their ability to capitalize on everyone's collective anger after 9/11.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Also, I guess there's a seven part mini series on Showtime about Roger Ailes that stars Russell Crowe.

https://tv.avclub.com/russell-crowe-gets-his-best-role-in-years-with-fox-news-1835872742

Adapted from reporter Gabriel Sherman’s book The Loudest Voice In The Room, The show breaks each episode down into a different year in the life of Ailes and Fox News, starting in 1995 with the creation of the channel, then excerpting particularly significant moments up to the end of his tenure: 2001, when Fox not-so-secretly became the lapdog mouthpiece for the Bush Administration’s war agenda; 2008, when the election of Barack Obama spurred an internecine power struggle with Rupert Murdoch to grant Ailes complete editorial control; 2009, when Ailes bought the small-town paper in his hometown (for purely petty reasons involving a zoning issue with his property) and turned it into a local equivalent of the wider culture war Fox was waging; and so on...to illuminate how a particularly craven mind was able to disregard journalistic ethics and single-handedly shift the Overton Window of political legitimacy in the United States to the right.

First I'd even heard of it

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jun 29, 2019

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

I feel like 4chan and 8chan are more dangerous than almost any other right wing propaganda outlet. Who hosts them? We got Infowars and Stormfront deplatformed and neither of those were as objectively objectionable. Hell, 4chan has even recently started courting advertisers.

The current generation of Neo-Nazis were and are largely being radicalized on these sites, not Fox News.

Where has moot been anyway? He sold out and hasn’t said poo poo that I know of.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

BiggerBoat posted:

Also, I guess there's a seven part mini series on Showtime about Rupert Murdoch that stars Russell Crowe.

https://tv.avclub.com/russell-crowe-gets-his-best-role-in-years-with-fox-news-1835872742

Adapted from reporter Gabriel Sherman’s book The Loudest Voice In The Room, The show breaks each episode down into a different year in the life of Ailes and Fox News, starting in 1995 with the creation of the channel, then excerpting particularly significant moments up to the end of his tenure: 2001, when Fox not-so-secretly became the lapdog mouthpiece for the Bush Administration’s war agenda; 2008, when the election of Barack Obama spurred an internecine power struggle with Rupert Murdoch to grant Ailes complete editorial control; 2009, when Ailes bought the small-town paper in his hometown (for purely petty reasons involving a zoning issue with his property) and turned it into a local equivalent of the wider culture war Fox was waging; and so on...to illuminate how a particularly craven mind was able to disregard journalistic ethics and single-handedly shift the Overton Window of political legitimacy in the United States to the right.

First I'd even heard of it

It's about Ailes I thought?

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

Ron Jeremy posted:

Where has moot been anyway? He sold out and hasn’t said poo poo that I know of.

I think he works for Google now.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Ron Jeremy posted:

Where has moot been anyway? He sold out and hasn’t said poo poo that I know of.
If you were responsible for the Online Reich, would you be popping up everywhere?

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

FilthyImp posted:

If you were responsible for the Online Reich, would you be popping up everywhere?

Maybe he’s going to Myanmar to do yoga in a balloon just like @Jack, just not posting about it

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

FilthyImp posted:

If you were responsible for the Online Reich, would you be popping up everywhere?

If I was Moot I would be endlessly apologizing and trying to undo the evil. Or since by his silence we can assume consent and support, doing what I could to benefit and profit from being one of the chief ushers of fascism in the modern age.

Keeping a low profile suggests he has enough decency to recognize the depth of his gently caress up but not enough to even give the barest of apologies.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

HootTheOwl posted:

It's about Ailes I thought?

Fixed

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
Is moot actually Jewish or was that just a 4chan meme?

pablo906
Sep 12, 2012

i'm getting too old for this shit

pangstrom posted:

Reading tea leaves, but: Shaprio was fresh off of a bad showing with Sean Illing at Vox right before this interview (i.e. couldn't defend massive and obvious holes in his argument), and I think he had pre-decided to play the media bias victim card if things started to go south in a similar way.

Watching him absolutely melt down under questions from a huge right wing figure was exhilarating. The guy is always talking about how everyone gets their feelings hurt and can't articulate their positions and that's how you know they suck, and lo and behold he proved his takes are cold and flaccid.

For others that maybe haven't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
I always kind of wish someone would reupload that using the image there and overlaying text that says Right-Wing Hero HUMILIATES Unprepared INTELLECTUAL LIGHTWEIGHT

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Speaking of movies about right wingers, Bob Roberts is a film everyone should watch. I've brought this film up a few times in this thread and god drat if it doesn't seem prescient.

Here's a link to all the songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXFdikh-70

1/3 of this country could listen to this music without a trace of irony or a sense of humor

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jun 30, 2019

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

pablo906 posted:

Watching him absolutely melt down under questions from a huge right wing figure was exhilarating. The guy is always talking about how everyone gets their feelings hurt and can't articulate their positions and that's how you know they suck, and lo and behold he proved his takes are cold and flaccid.

For others that maybe haven't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E

I missed this the first time: Ben name drops AOC. Would the BBC audience know who that is?

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

HootTheOwl posted:

I missed this the first time: Ben name drops AOC. Would the BBC audience know who that is?

I can't speak for the British, but considering how many Americans probably don't know who she is I doubt she's front and center within the minds of the average BBC viewer (outside of the number of Americans who pay attention to BBC or particularly politically-minded British folks). But that's what makes that interview so profound. Not only did he give up the game on the "facts don't care about your feelings" bit of his by breaking down in the pissiest and emotionally charged way, he also didn't bother to put in the least amount of thought or research into who he was speaking with or what strategy he'd take. His mushy brain just went into the same mode you'd expect from your lovely Republican uncle who just screams "HILLARY!!!! AOC!!!!!SOCIALISM!!:byodood:" tirade whenever politics come up. He can't even claim the "I"m an intellectual!" thing anymore, in addition to the feelings thing. He burned it all to the ground in one short clip. He claimed to be the greatest baseball player of all time, but when it came time for him to step up to the plate he hit the ball and ran to 3rd. He'll still likely be around and influential within his already existing audience, but after that I'd really hope he's loving done.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Ben's target audience is loving obsessed with AOC.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
That Even More News video about Lil Ben is great because it shows him being interviewed for one of his early books by some nice old lady who is clearly confused on what a dumbass he is. he also tries to claim that Anne Coulter is a comedian, and that Bill Cosby is a conservative. Yes you can totally have him, as Cosby and Trump have a lot in common.

Oh yea, Its amazing for chuds to go "AOC wants to ruin america!!" and people going "who the gently caress is AOC?" because they're not obsessed with her.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


Previa_fun posted:

Ben's target audience is loving obsessed with AOC.

Ben's target audience is Ben?

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Previa_fun posted:

Ben's target audience is loving obsessed with AOC.

fox news kinda screwed up focusing on her because it got their audience's angry and horny signals all jumbled

Vichan
Oct 1, 2014

I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

BiggerBoat posted:

Speaking of movies about right wingers, Bob Roberts is a film everyone should watch. I've brought this film up a few times in this thread and god drat if it doesn't seem prescient.

Here's a link to all the songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXFdikh-70

1/3 of this country could listen to this music without a trace of irony or a sense of humor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEmry5lRKk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qilAvvLSGEQ

Conservative songs are so fascinating to me.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Jesus. They're like pre=school learning songs for rednecks

Also, LOL at "Hank Williams Jr.- If The South Would Have One".

Honestly surprised it didn't read "Would of One"

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Lycus posted:

Isn't 8chan hosted in the Philippines, or something?

the current owner is an american expat who lives in the phillipines and company is registered there

the actual servers were in nevada somehow, at least until they were seized by the feds doing investigations and copied them

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


HootTheOwl posted:

I missed this the first time: Ben name drops AOC. Would the BBC audience know who that is?

Most of them, no. She's not really been in the news here, I only know about her because I'm permanently online and have always tried to follow the election of any vaguely left leaning candidates in America.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

forkboy84 posted:

Most of them, no. She's not really been in the news here, I only know about her because I'm permanently online and have always tried to follow the election of any vaguely left leaning candidates in America.

Ah, so you, too, hunt the fabled unicorn.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
Well, out here in Portland the proud boys and counterprotestors had a mild scuffle yesterday. Expect to hear a lot of "cement milkshakes" and "brain hemorrhage" with zero proof over the next few days.

Hate to admit it, but they were ready to hit social media running on this one. Already a 50k GoFundMe for Andy Ngo and an insane narrative being pushed. Guy went into the counterprotest and started talking poo poo. A few idiots threw some punches, a milkshake was thrown, and he was silly stringed. He was quickly given a protective escort out by other members of the counter protest.

According to Reddit and other social media, the milkshake was filled with concrete, he was silent, he was beaten and kicked, had to be carried to the hospital, etc, etc.

I'm honestly at a loss of how to counter such tactics. You can't legitimately fight an opponent who will race to be underhanded whenever possible.

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Great Metal Jesus
Jun 11, 2007

Got no use for psychiatry
I can talk to the voices
in my head for free
Mood swings like an axe
Into those around me
My tongue is a double agent
Saw CNN legitimizing the cement milkshakes thing over in the CSPAM altright thread.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/06/30/us/portland-protest-arrests/index.html

Enjoying the Guardian going "nah that probably didn't happen, lol":

quote:

Milkshakes, recently used around the world as a symbolic weapon against prominent figures on the far right, became a theme of the day. Portland police claimed without offering evidence that some milkshake cups had been filled with quick-drying cement.

Actual milkshakes were used by leftwing protesters. A videographer and editor for the rightwing magazine Quillette, Andy Ngo, had one dumped on him early in the day.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/30/portland-police-cement-milkshake-leftwing-rightwing-protests

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