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Gerrymandering is one of those things that everyone should be against regardless of political affiliation on the basis of protecting the sanctity of elections, but we're at the point now where whoever is in control will just run it to the ragged edge and grab whatever power they can while the getting is good.
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I feel like an rear end in a top hat saying this, but the Dems need to gerrymander harder than the Republicans do because it's the only way Republicans might finally come around to accept some sort of fair redistricting law. I'm really sick of the Dems playing fair while Republicans do everything in their power to screw people over. They'll never learn unless they face some actual consequences for a change.
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Jun 28, 2019 18:38
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Don't feel like an rear end in a top hat Anyone who disagrees is an rear end in a top hat Eliminate every Republican seat in Dem strongholds like CA, IL and NY. Draw the most ridiculous boundaries possible to gently caress them over, and be very explicit about why you're doing it. The only fix will come if Dems can take full control of the federal government and pass federal districting laws and pack the courts to uphold them.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:18
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If that happened we'd probably have to kick their crybaby asses in a war again.
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Jun 28, 2019 20:04
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Volkerball posted:If that happened we'd probably have to kick their crybaby asses in a war again. This is where everything happening now ultimately ends. The only question is who starts it and why.
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Jun 28, 2019 20:18
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I saw a tweet the other day that said Republicans will gerrymander the gently caress out of their states and Democrats will set up bipartisan commissions in theirs.
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Jun 28, 2019 21:18
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Volkerball posted:If that happened we'd probably have to kick their crybaby asses in a war again. This time all the blue spots in red States are research universities with all sorts of weird military tech in them. I wonder what Tuscaloosa defending itself would look like.
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Jun 28, 2019 23:58
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:While I hate the idea of gerrymandering, I am becoming more and more of a reluctant supporter since Rs are doing it in so many states. Since the SC ruling on gerrymandering, I'm almost entirely against fair maps in blue states. We'd be idiots to do it because red stats won't in a million years. So at this point if blue states went fair maps and the reds didn't we'd just be handing them 12-15 seats easy. gently caress that ruling, btw. On that note, this is why the governor races were really the big thing going on in 2018. If democrats can grab a few more, we'll be able to do almost what the republicans were able to do to us in 2010. NomChompsky fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jun 30, 2019 |
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Jun 30, 2019 03:47
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Fair maps help progressive challengers against establishment incumbents, so I'd still like to have them here.
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Jun 30, 2019 05:33
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A local county clerk posted this:quote:Things are changing MAJORLY in the state of Illinois beginning tomorrow. PLEASE remember that the front line staff that you deal with, should you find yourself in my office, didn't do this, your legislators in Springfield did. My staff is simply doing their job. Please remember this and treat them accordingly. So many comments along the lines of “I am going to gas up in Indiana and Missouri now!” Or “I can’t wait to move away from this state.” Yet, these are the same people who complain about roads and potholes in the area. Also, the local radio station that has been pushing the Pritzker is raising taxes (lots of “how do you feel posts”) posted yesterday how the infrastructure plan will rebuild the main road in their town and to see the lack of angry comments was outstanding (still some of “oh great, now the roads will be closed” or “I’ll believe it when I see it”). I cannot wait until rep Wilhour takes part of the ceremonies and tells everyone that this got fixed because of him even though he voted against the package.
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Jun 30, 2019 18:13
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Going 100 in a school zone without a seat belt to own the libs
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Jun 30, 2019 18:22
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Seems insanely easy to speed less than 26 mph over the speed limit, honestly
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Jun 30, 2019 19:10
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If I knew +25 cost the same as +10 I would have been speeding a lot more! Though there's something to be said for fitting in with the flow, means you never get pulled over and get to speed an acceptable amount.
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Jun 30, 2019 22:06
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:So many comments along the lines of “I am going to gas up in Indiana and Missouri now!” Or “I can’t wait to move away from this state.” Yet, these are the same people who complain about roads and potholes in the area. This is my office literally every day. Complain about the potholes and road conditions and declare that the state needs to spend more money on repairs in one breath, then inhale and complain about the gas tax going up in the next. Being the only woman in the office, I’m pretty adept at doing the “I know this fact to be true, but I will ask a question so that when you look it up you can teach me a thing and maintain your status as Big Smart Man” so I asked if Illinois was one of the states where the gas tax was specifically for transportation infrastructure, but they did not take the bait. They just said “Probably not, ~*DeMoCrAt PoLiTicIaNs*~ would just steal that money for other things anyway.”
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Jun 30, 2019 22:12
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Badger of Basra posted:Seems insanely easy to speed less than 26 mph over the speed limit, honestly Seriously, I drive all day every day and I just don't feel any real need to go more than around 70-75 on wide open highways. And if you really feel like you need to do more than 25 over on a road that is 45 mph or less then you have some serious issues. You just really don't save that much time with extreme speeding unless you are traveling long distances or several hundred miles. And inside the suburban hellscape of Chicagoland and the collar counties, you just really can't keep a high average speed to really make a difference. edit - also I always laugh a bit at the people complaining about gas taxes because the cost of filling up my 12 gallon tank at $3.00/gallon is $36 and the cost at $3.20 a gallon is $38.40, thus costing a whole $2.40 more per tank of gas. And despite the fact that I generally fill up between 10-15 times a month due to my job, it's not even something I would complain about aside from the fact that I understand it can make things more difficult for some people due to American car culture and a lack of good public transportation. TMMadman fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jun 30, 2019 |
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Jun 30, 2019 23:33
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Hutla posted:This is my office literally every day. Complain about the potholes and road conditions and declare that the state needs to spend more money on repairs in one breath, then inhale and complain about the gas tax going up in the next. Being the only woman in the office, I’m pretty adept at doing the “I know this fact to be true, but I will ask a question so that when you look it up you can teach me a thing and maintain your status as Big Smart Man” so I asked if Illinois was one of the states where the gas tax was specifically for transportation infrastructure, but they did not take the bait. They just said “Probably not, ~*DeMoCrAt PoLiTicIaNs*~ would just steal that money for other things anyway.” Same exact thing, all the time. It has slowed down since session ended but man oh man.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:So many comments along the lines of “I am going to gas up in Indiana and Missouri now!” Or “I can’t wait to move away from this state.” Yet, these are the same people who complain about roads and potholes in the area. I started to talk about how great I've heard North Carolina and Utah are, and encouraged them to start looking for a a place. They stopped talking about moving around me.
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Jul 1, 2019 18:51
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"Chicagoland"
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https://twitter.com/Ashlee_Rezin/status/1145786096128708608?s=20 People gonna get real mad.
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Jul 1, 2019 21:19
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/Ashlee_Rezin/status/1145786096128708608?s=20 Except just about every road in Indiana is in horrible loving shape.
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Jul 1, 2019 21:21
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TMMadman posted:Except just about every road in Indiana is in horrible loving shape. Lol logic being brought into a situation where only blind rage is required
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Jul 1, 2019 21:22
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i'd kill for 3.49 gas
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Jul 1, 2019 21:28
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I filled up last night but eh. Hadn’t been raised in ten years and it’s all earmarked for road construction so (now let’s see how creative they can get with the definition of a road).
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Jul 1, 2019 21:33
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Look Alderman Burke needed his driveway made in solid gold.
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Jul 1, 2019 21:39
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/Ashlee_Rezin/status/1145786096128708608?s=20 I mean. You can do that within the city of Chicago already. That gas station just off Foster and 94 is always a dollar higher than anything in the city. It’s currently $.50 higher than the station one block away.
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Jul 1, 2019 21:49
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/Ashlee_Rezin/status/1145786096128708608?s=20 Luuke I work in Calumet City maybe 1/2 mile from the border and I've never purposely driven into IN before to get gas, although if I'm over the border for some other reason I filled up. Will see if I think it's worth it with the tax hike, but if as an avid soda drinker I didn't even cross for that when the Cook County tax was up, I doubt I will for gas.
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/Ashlee_Rezin/status/1145786096128708608?s=20 Why’s it so expensive in whiting? It’ll still be 3 bucks in state where I’m at in one of the largest cities In Illinois.
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I knew people who'd drive from central Illinois three hours to Missouri to buy cigarettes. Don't underestimate how dumb and illogical the average person is. Hopefully this actually improves the road situation. We'll have to wait and see on that one.
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Jul 1, 2019 22:04
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Cigs you can at least like buy in extreme amounts of bulk
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KDdidit posted:Luuke (Another constant of life back then was crossing over to Lansing, Illinois for booze on Sundays with the liquor store conveniently located right near the border.)
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Jul 1, 2019 22:05
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Dexo posted:Cigs you can at least like buy in extreme amounts of bulk 
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Jul 1, 2019 22:20
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dwarf74 posted:I grew up right across the border, but on the Indiana side, and the difference in gas prices across the border has pretty much always been a thing, and Indiana gas stations have always capitalized on it. This. Indiana is where you stop for gas and cigs on your way to points east. Its the only reason you stop in Indiana. "Crossroads of America' is just a nicer way of saying 'nothing to see here, move along.'
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Jul 1, 2019 22:55
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Raising the gas tax to fix roads seems like the most logical tax. It also acts as an incentive to buy more fuel efficient vehicles.
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Jul 1, 2019 23:46
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Niwrad posted:Raising the gas tax to fix roads seems like the most logical tax. It also acts as an incentive to buy more fuel efficient vehicles. Nope, it's actually nothing more than a socialist money grab from social justice warriors in Springfield. There's clearly no link at all between the gas tax staying the same since 1990 and the sorry state of IL's infrastructure. We'd have been just fine if the commies in Chicago hadn't gotten rid of the road faeries that magically fix everything at night.
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I don't give a poo poo about the roads. If we find out five years from now that all these lucrative contracts got thrown out for infrastructure and the state was still neglecting CPS and pension debts, I'm gonna be livid. The amount of money this state spends on interest from loans it's taken out is absurd. That needs to be fixed before anything.
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DalaranJ posted:Why’s it so expensive in whiting? It’ll still be 3 bucks in state where I’m at in one of the largest cities In Illinois. It's where the refinery workers live so it's the select, refiners reserve fancy gas.
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DalaranJ posted:Why’s it so expensive in whiting? It’ll still be 3 bucks in state where I’m at in one of the largest cities In Illinois.
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Volkerball posted:I don't give a poo poo about the roads. If we find out five years from now that all these lucrative contracts got thrown out for infrastructure and the state was still neglecting CPS and pension debts, I'm gonna be livid. The amount of money this state spends on interest from loans it's taken out is absurd. That needs to be fixed before anything. Fixing roads creates jobs where workers in turn pay income tax and spend their wages in the state. Also extra revenue from taxes means we don't have to borrow more money at high interest rates to fix essential infrastructure.
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