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Sucrose posted:Lol this is a rule literally left over from the days of typewriters, made to apply to typewriters. At this point I just feel bad for starting this whole derail because I was just telling a funny anecdote to illustrate that so much boomer and gen-x hate is really just about being pissed that things change and they aren't the pounding beating heart of youth culture anymore. As a way of appologizing, I leave you news that will surprise nobody. CPB is full of trash humans and the cruelty is the point. https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes
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xrunner posted:At this point I just feel bad for starting this whole derail because I was just telling a funny anecdote to illustrate that so much boomer and gen-x hate is really just about being pissed that things change and they aren't the pounding beating heart of youth culture anymore. First of all, it's a style issue, not a grammar issue. Second, if you have house style for your company (or you use Chicago style for example) you can wave in his face and tell him to stfu. But he has disastrously poor email etiquette even for a boomer, so none of that is problem #1.
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My mom uses NO spaces between sentences. She doesn't do it on purpose, and she does it at work as well as on Facebook. I don't know what's happening with that.
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Ragnar34 posted:My mom uses NO spaces between sentences. She doesn't do it on purpose, and she does it at work as well as on Facebook. I don't know what's happening with that. Weird, but unless the sentences start and end with a numeral, it should be clear enough to read. Weird, though
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Sodomy Hussein posted:First of all, it's a style issue, not a grammar issue. Second, if you have house style for your company (or you use Chicago style for example) you can wave in his face and tell him to stfu. But he has disastrously poor email etiquette even for a boomer, so none of that is problem #1. These are fair points. I'll make sure to relay them to the guy who owns the company I work for next time I run into him, especially given that he has the temperament you would expect from the kind of person who reads a loving Megan McCardle article and forwards it to the entire company and goes on a holy war against single spacing in emails. 
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Jul 1, 2019 23:01
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Hey can one of you tell me just what the hell a 'stan' is supposed to be?
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Hey can one of you tell me just what the hell a 'stan' is supposed to be? An overly obsessive fan, the term, I believe, is a reference to the song "Stan" by Eminem.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Hey can one of you tell me just what the hell a 'stan' is supposed to be?
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^^^lolWatermelon Daiquiri posted:Hey can one of you tell me just what the hell a 'stan' is supposed to be? As mycomancy said. But I also never encountered that word until a couple of months ago and now hear it god drat everywhere, so I feel you.
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Jul 2, 2019 04:56
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mycomancy posted:An overly obsessive fan, the term, I believe, is a reference to the song "Stan" by Eminem. This really pisses me off. Fan is already short for fanatic, which means overly obsessive fan
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Jul 2, 2019 05:32
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Terror Sweat posted:This really pisses me off. Fan is already short for fanatic, which means overly obsessive fan Language changes and you shouldn't get worked up about it.
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Jul 2, 2019 06:11
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Xiahou Dun posted:Language changes and you shouldn't get worked up about it. It’s pretty normal to have aesthetic reactions to the use of language, regardless of whether or not it changes.
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Jul 2, 2019 06:31
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That doesn't make it not dumb. Edit : I say that as some with a strong opinion about language. But it's like getting angry at continental drift. There's nothing you can do. It's all just oldmanshoutsatcloud.jpg.
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Terror Sweat posted:This really pisses me off. Fan is already short for fanatic, which means overly obsessive fan Yeah but what does fan mean???
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Xiahou Dun posted:That doesn't make it not dumb. Says you. I've been playing a long game with climate change.
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Jul 2, 2019 13:38
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Xiahou Dun posted:Language changes and you shouldn't get worked up about it. I’ll do what I want
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Jul 2, 2019 18:34
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Terror Sweat posted:I’ll do what I want Cool? Then I vote we bring back the thou/you distinction and morphological gender. Those are cool.
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Xiahou Dun posted:^^^lol Same. And while I'd obviously heard "bootlicker" before, a few months ago I started coming across it literally every day. I figure people's working vocabulary--the words among those they know that they're actually inclined to use--is driven in large part my what they hear. It makes sense that changes to working vocab can propagate memetically. The internet just makes it really sudden, erratic, and weird.
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Jul 2, 2019 18:39
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Remember that period of like 24 months when every political discussion on these forums revolved around what particular topographical feature you were willing to expire upon.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Cool? I think you're missing the point of "doing what you want"! E: Unless what you really wanted to do was cast a vote instead of actually use the grammatical features you mentioned. VVVV There you go! Also, I had no idea old English had morphological gender - cool stuff! VVVV Stickman fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jul 2, 2019 |
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Stickman posted:I think you're missing the point of "doing what you want"! Nay, I think it is thee that hast missed the point.
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Helsing posted:Remember that period of like 24 months when every political discussion on these forums revolved around what particular topographical feature you were willing to expire upon. I miss the debate on how Ohio was an east coast state and that the Appalachians weren’t mountains.
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Helsing posted:Remember that period of like 24 months when every political discussion on these forums revolved around what particular topographical feature you were willing to expire upon. I only die on cwms. 
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Xiahou Dun posted:Nay, I think it is thee that hast missed the point. I think thee is accusative - Thou hast is probably right. e: grammar is hard! Albinator fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 2, 2019 |
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Jul 2, 2019 19:52
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Xiahou Dun posted:^^^lol Stan was also released like 20 years ago, so the fact its making a comeback is kinda odd
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Jul 2, 2019 19:57
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Stan was also released like 20 years ago, so the fact its making a comeback is kinda odd No it....oh god it was.
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Jul 2, 2019 19:59
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Albinator posted:I think thee is accusative and hast would be third person. Thou hath is probably what you’re looking for. "Hast" is 2nd person, but yeah I did brain fart and should've used "thou" since that's a bridge verb not an ECM verb. My bad. Kind of undermines my joke.
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There's such an annoyingly fine line between "there is such a thing as using correct spelling/grammar/expressions" and "language changes, get over it"
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Xiahou Dun posted:"Hast" is 2nd person, but yeah I did brain fart and should've used "thou" since that's a bridge verb not an ECM verb. My bad. Kind of undermines my joke. Thou hast mich?
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Stan was also released like 20 years ago, so the fact its making a comeback is kinda odd To be fair, it's not a new term by any means and has been used in fan circles as a derogatory thing for as long as that song's been around.
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mycomancy posted:Thou hast mich? I can’t tell if you’re joking but that’s literally what that song is in German. English just lost thou/du.
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Data Graham posted:There's such an annoyingly fine line between "there is such a thing as using correct spelling/grammar/expressions" and "language changes, get over it" no there isn't! language is fake! get over it!
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Data Graham posted:There's such an annoyingly fine line between "there is such a thing as using correct spelling/grammar/expressions" and "language changes, get over it" I know what you mean. I'd say the line is where your language fails to communicate successfully. So the line is closer to prescriptive the more technical or detailed the idea being communicated. If you're just bullshitting with your buds it matters hardly at all. Work is something else. You sort of have to be as formal as the person who can fire you or give you a raise thinks is appropriate, or the customer, or whatever.
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Like if my friend uses "implicitly" to mean "explicitly", do I just go with it and learn his quirks, or do I press him to explain which he means, because they are very different and equally plausible things to say in the situation Or do I just give up and let "explicit" mean "has dirty words in it", as is the way of things nowadays
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https://nbcnews.to/2J5KgsU https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1146141642782662656
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Xiahou Dun posted:I can’t tell if you’re joking but that’s literally what that song is in German. English just lost thou/du. I am joking good sir.
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mycomancy posted:I am joking good sir. Thou art a villainous verticillium. Thy hen of the woods has loudly and lustily found you out for eternal chagrin and shame.
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Xlorp posted:Thou art a villainous verticillium. Thy hen of the woods has loudly and lustily found you out for eternal chagrin and shame. Thous speakest sooth. (This is the dumbest little derail but I like it.)
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