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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I believe it was the clam-shell gens. GX150 up to maybe the GX600 series. This was Pentium 3-4 days, long while back. I have a Dell C226 (Haswell) motherboard and it absolutely does not have a standard ATX connector, it’s 8 pins instead of 24. e: I’m not bothered by this one bit, the motherboard was a replacement and normally that chipset goes for over $100. Since Dell needs to be such a special snowflake, the board’s resale value is like only $40 and I just needed a $4 adapter to make it work. Laslow fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 27, 2019 |
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I was going to say that would be a killer (if vastly overpowered) HTPC but it looks like there are some hang ups with the AMD GPU and some DRM and encoding schemes.
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Yeah, I think the key takeaway is the review's concluding sentence:quote:Considering pricing of the systems, it is not completely clear how Intel is positioning its Islay Canyon NUCs against its own Bean Canyon machines that are priced similarly, yet they feature higher CPU performance, similar GPU performance, and a better feature set when it comes to media playback. Intel already has better NUCs for the same price, so it's kind of a bizarre addition to the stack. Stickman fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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If the price wasn't like $800+ on those NUC's and was instead something closer to $400-500 they'd be lots more interesting. Especially given the very low base clocks (~1.8Ghz) of those CPU's despite initially impressive looking boost clocks.
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On this note, the J5005 NUC now appears to be discontinued, B&H won't even let you backorder it anymore  Shame, it makes a cute little HTPC.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:If the price wasn't like $800+ on those NUC's and was instead something closer to $400-500 they'd be lots more interesting. Intel's idea of a NUC: a premium miniaturised PC, filling all your computing needs. Everyone else's idea of a NUC: a cheap second PC that can play movies or something
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Like a Mac Mini, but more expensive and made of plastic
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jfc how many movies are you roustabouts laying around watching
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Most technology purchased by people over about 22 is bought for aspirations of things that actually never happen.
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The heart of the issue is that playing a movie or something is all of most people's computing needs.
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K8.0 posted:Most technology purchased by people over about 22 is bought for aspirations of things that actually never happen. You shut the gently caress up with your truth speaking!
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K8.0 posted:Most technology purchased by people over about 22 is bought for aspirations of things that actually never happen. Also my house needs a dining room in case I host Thanksgiving here
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K8.0 posted:Most technology purchased by people over about 22 is bought for aspirations of things that actually never happen. This applies to way too many of my purchases
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canyoneer posted:Also my house needs a dining room in case I host Thanksgiving here This hit home in a way nothing should, and I dont even have a dining room.
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K8.0 posted:Most technology purchased by people over about 22 is bought for aspirations of things that actually never happen. Well poo poo
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running benchmarks all day that sorta guesstimate what it might be like to ever actually play a game
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ItBreathes posted:The heart of the issue is that playing a movie or something is all of most people's computing needs. Yeah. But that computing need is met by whichever $249 shitbox is sold by big box stores near you.
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Intel CPU and Platform Discussion: Existential Meltdowns ITT
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Bulgakov posted:running benchmarks all day that sorta guesstimate what it might be like to ever actually play a game It's not a total loss - you also use your machine to post your benchmarks so other people can make informed decisions for their own benchmark machines!
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Stickman posted:It's not a total loss - you also use your machine to post your benchmarks so other people can make informed decisions for their own benchmark machines! just thinking out loud...but what about a benchmark posting benchmark??? 
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Sounds like it'd be easy to fall down the rabbit hole unless you could construct some kind of self-looping quine benchmark.
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Stickman posted:Sounds like it'd be easy to fall down the rabbit hole unless you could construct some kind of self-looping quine benchmark. well, that's what the add-on nucs are for
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Bulgakov posted:running benchmarks all day that sorta guesstimate what it might be like to ever actually play a game owning a 9900K rig to play games from 2007 really fast
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Paul MaudDib posted:owning a 9900K rig to play games from 2007 really fast I unironically want to build a new PC to play old, unoptimized games like Starcraft 2 at better framerate.
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Otakufag posted:I unironically want to build a new PC to play old, unoptimized games like Starcraft 2 at better framerate. Bad news. StarCraft 2's engine is the problem here. It doesn't use multicore at all and even throwing a 9900k or some other Intel chip with a huge single core OC at it won't eliminate fps drops in large battles.
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How are Blizzard so poo poo at programming? It's not like they're a small indie studio that can't attract top talent.
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Got my 4770k to 4.4GHz at 1.28V right now, input voltage of 1.9V, and it seems quite stable. Using an Asus Z87 Sabertooth board, it has been straightforward enough to overclock. Should I be concerned at that voltage though? I read 1.25V is considered safe on air, and I guess I am a bit past it, but I haven't had bad thermals except under Prime95 which is such an outlier for heat. Under gaming conditions and general use I've not seen higher than ~60ºC. Kinda weird waiting to overclock until 4 years after I put together the comp (with then-2 year old parts) I know but it just kept being enough until suddenly it wasn't, you know? I still don't run into many day to day computing scenarios that kill it, but with a RTX 2070 from EVGA's 700/900 step-up promotion on the way, I bet I will be seeing its limits in some modern games. Should at least be a bit better at 4400ghz versus the 3500ghz stock, I guess.
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lDDQD posted:How are Blizzard so poo poo at programming? It's not like they're a small indie studio that can't attract top talent. SC2 fps doesn't dip much. I play(ed) it on a 3770k and never had fps dips that impacted playability even in team games. Admittedly, I haven't played since the first expansion so I don't know if they did anything dumb since then. Parallelizing something like the SC2 engine requires designing it as parallel from the ground up. It's likely SC2 started development in the pentium4 era, aka no multicore. It wasn't on their radar, and it's not really something you can go back and add in later to a complex lockstep simulation. Khorne fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jul 3, 2019 |
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Sandy bridge was just coming out when SC2 released. Most people's processors were older dual-core systems at best. It made zero sense for blizzard to code their engine to take advantage of systems with 4 or 8 cores when that hardware barely existed in the consumer space.
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Agreed posted:Got my 4770k to 4.4GHz at 1.28V right now, input voltage of 1.9V, and it seems quite stable. Using an Asus Z87 Sabertooth board, it has been straightforward enough to overclock. Factory sticker says 1.4vcore is safe and plenty of people are driving theirs upwards of 1.5v for years without ill effect. You should be well within tolerance.
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Agreed posted:Got my 4770k to 4.4GHz at 1.28V right now, input voltage of 1.9V, and it seems quite stable. Using an Asus Z87 Sabertooth board, it has been straightforward enough to overclock. If you set the voltage to 1.9 and are only seeing 1.28 I would be worried that the reading isn’t accurate. Do you know about LLC and how it works?
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Haswell has a onboard voltage regulator. The input voltage is the voltage it's getting fed to power the whole chip 1.9 V is very reasonable. I think mine is set to 1.88
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Input voltage is different from vcore. 1.9V is only a bit higher than stock input voltage. My vcore is set to 1.28V, and vid reads appropriately for that in monitoring software. I do know about LLC and how it works, I used offset voltage with Sandy Bridge and got pretty familiar as it was a big help to my OC stability. I haven't messed with it for this overclock though, trusting my mobo to handle that for now. Still making sure my clocks and voltage are stable at a manually set value before trying to get it working with offset. Agreed fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jul 3, 2019 |
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suck my woke dick posted:Intel's idea of a NUC: a premium miniaturised PC, filling all your computing needs. I use one as a remote work desktop, since with the VESA mount it takes no desk space and even the i3-5010U in mine is more than capable of keeping up with MS Office and terminal windows. Helped that I wasn't the one paying for it so I got to throw in 16GB of RAM "just in case". No idea what the point of this model is though. Like the article said, it made a bit of sense when they were sticking iGPU-less Cannon Lake with RX540s because that allowed them to say "hey, 10nm is shipping in retail products!" The 8250U is a 14nm chip with an iGPU though, and it's not much worse than an RX540 so why bother?
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suck my woke dick posted:Intel's idea of a NUC: a premium miniaturised PC, filling all your computing needs. So I apologize in advance if my sarcasm detector is just broken cuz' with specs like that there is no way those NUC's are a premium PC. Nor is the build quality all that impressive. They are very compact which is kinda slick but compact isn't the same as premium or impressive or "offers reasonable value for price".
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:So I apologize in advance if my sarcasm detector is just broken cuz' with specs like that there is no way those NUC's are a premium PC. Nor is the build quality all that impressive. They use entire intel stack, thunderbolt+phy+wifi. Whether they are premium parts or not is debatable, but similar sff usually get the cheapest i/o parts they can get and basic USB-C.
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Paul MaudDib posted:owning a 9900K rig to play games from 2007 really fast games I've played since building the 9700K PC: X3 Terran Conflict Crusader Kings 2 Morrowind 3DMark (???)
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The newest game I own is Portal 2 and that's the newest game I'm likely to play for the foreseeable future. My Haswell Pentium HTPC is plenty sufficient for my needs, gaming and otherwise, but I still really want to upgrade just to get a much smaller case. I could just get a new case and mini ITX mobo for it... or live with what I have... but I don't wanna.
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