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Badger of Basra posted:Can someone explicate the difference between (FAIRFAX CITY - FAIRFAX COUNTY) and (FAIRFAX CITY - FAIRFAX COUNTY) - FAIRFAX COUNTY? The CA represents both Fairfax County (the larger political subdivision) and Fairfax City (the smaller independent city inside the county because Virginia local government is a nightmare). The top box is overall results for the race. The second one is results for just precincts inside the County, and the screenshot cuts off a third for precincts inside the City.
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Quorum posted:The CA represents both Fairfax County (the larger political subdivision) and Fairfax City (the smaller independent city inside the county because Virginia local government is a nightmare). TL;DR: I shouldn't be phone posting election results
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 Descano wins, barring utter craziness in those last 2 precincts  edit: yes this is the county-only results but a) the city results are very small and won't change the result and b) i can't find the page on the board of elections site for the overall results Oh also, Our Revolutoin backed Descano so this is a really nice pickup for them after Taeb lost. I hope she tries again when Saslaw inevitably retires after this term (dude is like 85).
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axeil posted:Theo Stamos is the cop-endorsed DA who jailed a kid for saying "oink oink" to a cop. Probably the best result of the night. The comments whining about Soros dropping 500K into the race and that the left is going to let crime run rampant is giving me so much schadenfreude right now.
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Irma got crushed. I’m very sad. An ICE abolisher would have been nice. Also the right wing is having a blast with Joe Morrissey. WaPo did a long write up on his race against Dance, who was somewhat ineffective, as opposed to Morrissey, who’s remembered for being Marion Berry-Esque in terms of “well he was always good to me and my needs” so people showed up. Dance pointed out that he’s running entirely on poo poo that state senators don’t do - local infrastructure as opposed to state issues - but that never mattered to anyone, obviously. Virginia!
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Criminal justice reform is coming to NOVA. 
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B B posted:Criminal justice reform is coming to NOVA. Yeah this plus the Arlington County Commonwealth's Attorney races are big, big wins. This is going to be a very positive change in a lot of people's lives. edit: and if I had to pick either winning the big State Senate primaries or winning the Commonwealth's Attorney races I'd choose the Commonwealth's Attorney races. Much bigger local impact on people. axeil fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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McKay unsurprisingly won for supervisor. Alicia Plerhoples appears to have come in second, which is surprising to me because I never heard or saw anything about her and I don't think she's been involved in the local government (but could be wrong). Chapman came dead last, which is
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HisMajestyBOB posted:McKay unsurprisingly won for supervisor. Alicia Plerhoples appears to have come in second, which is surprising to me because I never heard or saw anything about her and I don't think she's been involved in the local government (but could be wrong). Chapman came dead last, which is I voted Plerhoples because she had a pretty good platform and was a non-white woman. I'm shocked she came in 2nd and I hope it encourages her to keep running for stuff.
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So... this is now the "did Lee Carter win reelection???" thread. Updates people. 
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Lightning Knight posted:So... this is now the "did Lee Carter win reelection???" thread. He won his primary comfortably.
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B B posted:He won his primary comfortably. Oh gently caress it was the primary? poo poo. Well that's good tho, yay for Lee Carter!
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Lightning Knight posted:So... this is now the "did Lee Carter win reelection???" thread. He won by like 15 points
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That’s a good point - there’s probably a better than even chance Morrissey gets indicted for something within a year (Or impregnates another teen)
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These races were all hard fought. I have replaced my shoes twice and lost 10 lbs. Good work everyone. I am real sad about Yasmine Taeb, but she will be back. For now....I rest.
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https://twitter.com/Neale_Print/status/1139754689497423873 https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/1139770821306531841 https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/1139771848860655616 https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/1139772713063604224 https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/1139774594909396992 I think I just witnessed a murder... Crosspost from USPOL, but HOLY poo poo DANICA MURDERED THIS MAN
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https://twitter.com/IbraheemSamirah/status/1140664599542403072 Rep Samirah is pretty ruthless and goes for the throat on a lot of things and I love him for it.
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friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/Neale_Print/status/1139754689497423873 She just needs to post herself wailing a sick guitar solo now and guess what that's something she can do too
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If you're in New York please do everything possible to help Tiffany Caban win DA https://twitter.com/CabanForQueens/status/1141391770758107137
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No Safe Word posted:She just needs to post herself wailing a sick guitar solo now and guess what that's something she can do too Indeed. If you ever get a chance to see Danica Roem at a show, please do so. She is super talented. theblackw0lf posted:If you're in New York please do everything possible to help Tiffany Caban win DA This. Caban is going to do GREAT things as DA. Turn out for her goons! she is the real deal!
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both of these people are turbochud republicans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFtREGH7tfk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZAv8alDfL4
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Please vote for Tiffany Caban tomorrow if you live in queens.
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Current state of the Queens DA race: Gonna be a nail-biter. 
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State D's in NJ doing their dear leader's bidding: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1145705584517373953
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mcmagic posted:State D's in NJ doing their dear leader's bidding:
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B B posted:Current state of the Queens DA race:
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Let's try to discuss some good ways to take on the entrenched Democratic establishment without resorting to violence. It appears democracy isn't it because they'll just throw out ballots they don't like. What else? Some of those provisional votes may yet be counted, and obviously there's a recount to go. There's a non-zero chance Caban wins. But it's not actually clear to me that the current methodology of the Democratic Socialists is failing. I remember in 2016 conversations on this board the only socialist elected official was Sawant on the Seattle City Council (and Bernie obviously), and now we've got a passel of state legislators and several Congresswomen. At least in my state, we've added a DSA-aligned state legislator (Ibraheem Samirah) and depending on DSA endorsements next month and November election results may well be adding more. The idea that this is failing because DSA may come up short in the Queens DA race seems a bit much. That said, all the folks *within* the Democratic Party are elected. In Virginia, this is through a series of party-run processes described in our bylaws, while in New York it sounds like those elections occur as party of the state-run primary election? So part of the answer might be to elect some ultra-liberal/socialist rabble-rousers to the relevant Democratic Committees. It sounds like in NY your DNC members are picked by your state party? In Virginia most of our DNC members are determined at our State Convention, and I think a lot of other states do it that way, so plausibly in a world where Warren and Sanders delegates at those conventions team up, they could get a few good folks onto the DNC.
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My experience with state parties is that the most important thing, above political ideology, above talent, above experience, is familiarity. If you're a familiar face in the party, you can get elected to stuff internally.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:My experience with state parties is that the most important thing, above political ideology, above talent, above experience, is familiarity. poo poo just show up to precinct committee meetings and ask the chairperson to be appointed to a district with a vacant seat if the one you live in is filled (50/50 chance its filled). You don't even have to be elected just appointed, though appointees can't vote at the big yearly meetings, you do have to be elected for those, but in 80% of cases, getting elected is just making sure your name is on the ballot in the primary and remembering to vote for yourself. A lot of these seats are basically vacant or uncontested so any amount of votes wins. I've seen people win with 12 votes. Then just go to meetings, volunteer to be on committees, volunteer for various campaigns and go to the regional and state meetings, make yourself a familiar face. Once they know your name you're in. They are DESPERATE for help in 80% of cases, anyone showing up under retirement age is unusual.
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Oracle posted:poo poo just show up to precinct committee meetings and ask the chairperson to be appointed to a district with a vacant seat if the one you live in is filled (50/50 chance its filled). You don't even have to be elected just appointed, though appointees can't vote at the big yearly meetings, you do have to be elected for those, but in 80% of cases, getting elected is just making sure your name is on the ballot in the primary and remembering to vote for yourself. A lot of these seats are basically vacant or uncontested so any amount of votes wins. I've seen people win with 12 votes. Then just go to meetings, volunteer to be on committees, volunteer for various campaigns and go to the regional and state meetings, make yourself a familiar face. Once they know your name you're in. They are DESPERATE for help in 80% of cases, anyone showing up under retirement age is unusual. Yeah, this is probably the case in like 75% of the country - just showing up, putting in some effort, and being friendly can probably get you a mid-level position fairly fast. I've got a friend who fits the "willing to work and not a moron" criteria and like 2.5 years after starting she's Chair of a county committee in a decent-sized purple county. Heck, in my own case, I went from "helping run phonebanks" to "on my Congressional District committee" in a bit under 2 years. However, this may be insufficient in the 25% of the country that's deep blue and that has an existing organization. In those areas you may have to actually campaign for and fight for positions. But even that isn't impossible - if you can win a primary to put AOC in Congress or get Caban close to winning, you can get a dozen folks on Assembly District committees or whatever.
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Jackson Taus posted:Yeah, this is probably the case in like 75% of the country - just showing up, putting in some effort, and being friendly can probably get you a mid-level position fairly fast. I've got a friend who fits the "willing to work and not a moron" criteria and like 2.5 years after starting she's Chair of a county committee in a decent-sized purple county. Heck, in my own case, I went from "helping run phonebanks" to "on my Congressional District committee" in a bit under 2 years. Yeah that 25% will be filled with lifers who've set up a lovely little fiefdom for themselves and want to hold onto that no matter what, and have lovingly cultivated all the precinct committeepersons to be in their corner. They may never do a single drat thing in their precinct but if the chair is facing a vote that might cost them they will suddenly show up en masse at a meeting, and you have to remember votes are weighted by number of voters per precinct, which is why they don't mind handing out committeeperson seats to all the bumfuck precincts with like 100 Dem voters. They make sure they keep the committee seats with 500+ in the hands of their buddies. The old grudges and history these people have with each other is also IN. SANE. You will learn more than you ever wanted to know about how back in the 60s so and so took so and so's girlfriend at the love-in and they've hated each other's guts ever since and so every meeting old white dude number one will stand up and motion something, anything, it might even be reasonable and the chair will strike it down just out of spite for who proposed it. You will also boggle at the amount of... shall we say mentally questionable members who nevertheless show up to every. single. meeting. to push their pet project that literally noone else cares about, be it trying to restrict chemtrails or make a park out of an empty lot that just happens to back up to their property that they're trying to sell for more than its worth or what have you. And there are always, ALWAYS hinky poo poo with votes when they want them to go a certain way. The chairpeople for all their faults do one thing and do it very well: they know the election codes and committee rules inside and out and they know every single loophole, roadblock and delaying tactic built into those rules either purposefully or accidentally, and they will gleefully exploit every single one. So if you are like some kind of D&D rules lawyer who loves poring over poo poo like that, you have a grand future in the Democratic party as a parliamentarian. They need you, go use your pedantry for good.
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There was a thing a while back where some photos of a GOP rep participating in Vampire the Masquerade LARP, and for all the silliness, it's probably the best preparation you could have for local politics.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:There was a thing a while back where some photos of a GOP rep participating in Vampire the Masquerade LARP, and for all the silliness, it's probably the best preparation you could have for local politics. omg flashbacks thanks. But uh... god that's depressingly accurate.
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Every time we do this is that we get stronger. The strength of a political machine is that they've got a deep rolodex and massive volunteer network, and we're slowly building our own.Oracle posted:Yeah that 25% will be filled with lifers who've set up a lovely little fiefdom for themselves and want to hold onto that no matter what, and have lovingly cultivated all the precinct committeepersons to be in their corner. They may never do a single drat thing in their precinct but if the chair is facing a vote that might cost them they will suddenly show up en masse at a meeting, and you have to remember votes are weighted by number of voters per precinct, which is why they don't mind handing out committeeperson seats to all the bumfuck precincts with like 100 Dem voters. They make sure they keep the committee seats with 500+ in the hands of their buddies. Whether your voting is weighted by Dem performance is gonna vary state by state or even committee by committee. For instance, I've heard that the Virginia 5th CD committee has one member from each jurisdiction, which if true means that the City of Charlottesville (17,901 Clinton voters) has as many votes on the State Central Committee as Rappahannock County (1,747 Clinton voters). Fundamentally we've gotta just beat the folks sitting in the big, important seats. Will they try some dirty tricks? Maybe. Just gotta beat 'em by a lot. This whole thing with Caban where folks are claiming dirty tricks is happening because the race is basically tied. If it was 53-47 going into Provisionals, it really wouldn't matter how many they threw out. Another big establishment lock-in thing is just logistical hurdles. If you're an active DNC member, you've got more or less a monthly trip - you've got a quarterly DNC meeting which is probably halfway across the country, probably like subcommittee or caucus meetings within the DNC, and then quarterly or semiannual State Party meetings. So you're in a hotel room easily 10 weekends, and probably 6-8 of those require getting on a plane. All told, you're spending several grand on travel just to show up at meetings, and that's before you're doing any sort of candidate support, fundraisers, or campaigning - that's just the price of entry and you're already paying a few grand. Oracle posted:The old grudges and history these people have with each other is also IN. SANE. You will learn more than you ever wanted to know about how back in the 60s so and so took so and so's girlfriend at the love-in and they've hated each other's guts ever since and so every meeting old white dude number one will stand up and motion something, anything, it might even be reasonable and the chair will strike it down just out of spite for who proposed it. You will also boggle at the amount of... shall we say mentally questionable members who nevertheless show up to every. single. meeting. to push their pet project that literally noone else cares about, be it trying to restrict chemtrails or make a park out of an empty lot that just happens to back up to their property that they're trying to sell for more than its worth or what have you. This is probably universal. People have the dumbest loving fights and they hold onto grudges for like decades. I've bemoaned House of Cards here before, but it's really the worst in that it's inspired so many people to try their hand at plotting and it's just senselessly destructive sometimes. The ones I hate most are the guys who can't really distinguish between "judgement call I disagree with" and "literal crimes worse than Trump". Like one committee I'm familiar with had like a 5 year fight over whether or not it was OK to hire movers to move stuff out of the office instead of using volunteer labor because [lengthy reasons that may or may not be valid]. Oracle posted:And there are always, ALWAYS hinky poo poo with votes when they want them to go a certain way. The chairpeople for all their faults do one thing and do it very well: they know the election codes and committee rules inside and out and they know every single loophole, roadblock and delaying tactic built into those rules either purposefully or accidentally, and they will gleefully exploit every single one. I managed to get elected as a semi-reasonable local party chair. But yeah, there are a lot of folks like this. My personal least favorite is where it's just like "well [corporate lawyer] wrote the rules, let's just ask him what they meant" and you get a ruling that doesn't make sense with Rules As Written. Oracle posted:So if you are like some kind of D&D rules lawyer who loves poring over poo poo like that, you have a grand future in the Democratic party as a parliamentarian. They need you, go use your pedantry for good. Yeah, definitely it's nice to have. But it's less important than having the votes. If the (new) Chair and 60% of a committee want to do something, there's only so many roadblocks they can throw up.
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Jackson Taus posted:Every time we do this is that we get stronger. The strength of a political machine is that they've got a deep rolodex and massive volunteer network, and we're slowly building our own. quote:Fundamentally we've gotta just beat the folks sitting in the big, important seats. Will they try some dirty tricks? Maybe. Just gotta beat 'em by a lot. This whole thing with Caban where folks are claiming dirty tricks is happening because the race is basically tied. If it was 53-47 going into Provisionals, it really wouldn't matter how many they threw out. quote:Another big establishment lock-in thing is just logistical hurdles. If you're an active DNC member, you've got more or less a monthly trip - you've got a quarterly DNC meeting which is probably halfway across the country, probably like subcommittee or caucus meetings within the DNC, and then quarterly or semiannual State Party meetings. So you're in a hotel room easily 10 weekends, and probably 6-8 of those require getting on a plane. All told, you're spending several grand on travel just to show up at meetings, and that's before you're doing any sort of candidate support, fundraisers, or campaigning - that's just the price of entry and you're already paying a few grand. quote:This is probably universal. People have the dumbest loving fights and they hold onto grudges for like decades. I've bemoaned House of Cards here before, but it's really the worst in that it's inspired so many people to try their hand at plotting and it's just senselessly destructive sometimes. And the fights just go ON and ON and ON and nothing gets done and young people and new people get fed up with the glacial pace and throw their hands up and leave and nothing changes. quote:I managed to get elected as a semi-reasonable local party chair. But yeah, there are a lot of folks like this. My personal least favorite is where it's just like "well [corporate lawyer] wrote the rules, let's just ask him what they meant" and you get a ruling that doesn't make sense with Rules As Written. quote:Yeah, definitely it's nice to have. But it's less important than having the votes. If the (new) Chair and 60% of a committee want to do something, there's only so many roadblocks they can throw up.
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South Bends City Clerk is stepping down to work for our school corp and the Democratic Precinct chairs get to choose a replacement via caucus. My friend threw his hat in the ring and I get to participate in the vote Sometime next week I will post about the experiences in this. This will be my first time in a caucus and I’m super excited to share this with everyone who might be interested in what duties a precinct chair must do. I’m also here as a resource for getting on the Indiana Ballot for next year’s elections. If you are even remotely interested this is the time to start planning things out.
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https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1151609848997564416 Any NoVA residents want to protest outside Pat Herrity's house with me? I loving HATE this kind of sweep it under the rug bullshit. GIVE THEM A HOME NOT CRIMINALIZE HOMELESS YOU DOLTS. URGH I want to move all the homeless people in front of Pat Herrity's house to panhandle. IT ISNT A BUSY INTERSECTION, WHATS THE PROBLEM PAT? friendbot2000 fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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lol, Hirsh Singh is running for Cory Booker's Senate seat. Fun stuff.
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https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1152733060741287937 Ahahahahahahahahahahaha
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