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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Wealthy women are getting really pissed at how they spent years ingratiating themselves with the imperial machine only to now be told that it's 'evil' and 'unsustainable' and 'fundamentally built around inequality and white supremacy' when it was just about to be their turn to be on top and enjoy exploiting and oppressing everyone else.

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Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

The first wave of feminists believed they had the right to own a plantation full of slaves the same as any man and their rich white successors are convinced it will be theirs any day now.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
This is an interesting statistic:

quote:

Bernie Sanders’ campaign says more of his donors work for Walmart than any other company
Hayley Peterson, Business Insider US

--Walmart was the top employer of donors to Sen. Bernie Sanders‘ presidential campaign during the second fundraising quarter of the year, Sanders’ campaign said Tuesday.

--The campaign said it raised $18 million during the quarter.

--Other leading employers of Sanders’ donors included Amazon, Starbucks, Target, and the US Postal Service, the campaign said.

Sen. Bernie Sanders’ attacks against Walmart may be helping fundraising efforts for his presidential campaign.

Sanders’ campaign said Tuesday that it raised $18 million during the second fundraising quarter of the year, and that Walmart was the top employer of his donors for the period.

Other leading employers of Sanders’ donors included Amazon, Starbucks, Target, and the US Postal Service. More than 99% of donations were $100 or less, according to the campaign.

Sanders’ campaign said the data indicates that support for the Vermont senator – who has been an outspoken critic of Walmart, Amazon, and other large corporations – is coming from “working people.”

“While other candidates court big money at fancy fundraisers, this campaign is supported by teachers, retail workers, and nurses who are putting what little money they have behind the one candidate who can bring about the transformative change this country needs,” Sanders’ campaign manager Faiz Shakir said in a statement.

It’s also possible that these statistics are simply a reflection of the general US population, as Walmart and Amazon are the top private employers in the US.

Read more: Bernie Sanders accuses Walmart of paying ‘starvation wages,’ attacks the CEO’s pay, and praises Amazon

Sanders has called on Walmart to raise its starting wages to $15 per hour. He attended Walmart’s annual shareholders’ meeting in June and accused the company of paying “starvation wages ” that “are so low that many of these employees are forced to rely on government programs like food stamps, Medicaid, and public housing in order to survive.”

He also attacked Walmart CEO Doug McMillon’s compensation, which reached nearly $24 million last year.

“Frankly, the American people are sick and tired of subsidizing the greed of some of the largest and most profitable corporations in this country,” Sanders said at the meeting.

Walmart last year raised its starting wages to $11 an hour.

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

She's not just a cop she's a prosecutor



A prosecutor who didn’t prosecute any bankers. Meanwhile she’s having fundraisers hosted by former Wells Fargo execs.

Think Warren needs to call her out on that one.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Bernie takes donations from Walmart, then turns around and attacks them for political gain. I wouldn't be suprised to see his funding start to dry up during Q3.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Harris just says whatever she thinks sounds good on stage and then completely backs off the next day LOL

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Iron Twinkie posted:

The first wave of feminists believed they had the right to own a plantation full of slaves the same as any man and their rich white successors are convinced it will be theirs any day now.

In the US, at least, there was a close link between feminism and abolitionism, and a lot of the early American feminists were also abolitionists.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Well yeah, sticking to something requires the kind of conviction she's not interested in.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

Groovelord Neato posted:

i never voted in a primary until sanders ran in 2016.

This is definitely going to be the first primary I've ever voted in.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Oh Snapple! posted:

Well yeah, sticking to something requires the kind of conviction she's not interested in.

It seems like a conscious strategy though, publicly declaring yourself in favour of doing something when all the cameras are rolling and then quietly walking it back the next day on the assumption nobody who matters will call you out on it. It feels a lot more cynical than just feeling the need to please a given audience in the moment.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

I just wanted to make my conviction joke <:mad:>

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


A few candidates were in the parade where I was.

Delaney was the only member of his campaign that made it

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

https://twitter.com/jakeonthecobb/status/1144610462732079105?s=19

The Twitter thread we didn't know we needed.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Majorian posted:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1146520655480983552

They really aren't even trying to be subtle about it at this point.

This is inadvertently a great example of Sirota's hackery. "12 point gain since April, *now* 6 points behind Biden" sure makes it sound like Bernie was way behind Biden in April, but then he gained 12 points, and now he's just 6 behind! Let's just check what the April ABC poll was...

ABC's April Poll posted:

Biden - 17
Sanders - 11

Oh. So Bernie surged from 6 points behind Biden to.... 6 points behind Biden. This is the definition of a "nothing matters" poll, not some great win for Bernie.

This isn't unique to Bernie, all campaigns do this kind of poll fuckery, but if we're going to do poo poo like dive into the crosstabs of every SC poll that shows Biden up, we ought to at least extend a basic skepticism to polls that are 'good' for Bernie as well.

Z. Autobahn fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jul 4, 2019

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Now THIS is content

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Lastgirl posted:

its laughable that Kamala had a teachable moment on the national stage to Joe Biden since she gleefully usuallyed the 1994 Crime Bill that Joe Biden helped sign to boost her career by wielding the law like a machine gun because

she's a freaken cop

they're all in on it together and don't want to change a loving thing, its absolutely stunning. Whatever ideal notion you had about liberalism returning a "balance" has been since long gone and left to the loving wolves and they're all just raiding American communities to profit off your misery under the guise of bipartisanship

If Harris is a cop so is Bernie. He literally was in charge of Burlington PD as mayor, right? :cthulhu:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/26/us/politics/as-mayor-bernie-sanders-was-more-pragmatic-than-socialist.amp.html

quote:

So when dozens of antiwar activists blocked the entrance to the local General Electric plant because it was manufacturing Gatling guns to fight the socialists in Central America, the protesters expected the mayor’s full support.

Instead, he lined up with union officials and watched as the police made arrests, saying later that in blocking the plant, the activists were keeping workers from their jobs.

Wow, Cop King Bernie.

yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 4, 2019

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

yronic heroism posted:

If Harris is a cop so is Bernie. He literally was in charge of Burlington PD as mayor, right? :cthulhu:

Cop King Bernie.

There's already one Calibanibal

volts5000
Apr 7, 2009

It's electric. Boogie woogie woogie.

Nemo2342 posted:

This is definitely going to be the first primary I've ever voted in.

This is the first Democratic primary for me. Finally changed my voter affiliation two years ago after being registered R for waaaaaaay too long. Voted in Republican primaries before. Made sure I voted against the same-sex marriage ban when my state put it on the primary ballot in 2012.

Voted against Trump in 2016 to no avail.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

I mean what is the Presidency itself if not the King of Cops?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
When you get right down to it Jesus was the cop of cops, tried for out sins and ok the third day he was promoted.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Calibanibal posted:

I mean what is the Presidency itself if not the King of Cops?

Unironically this though

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Calibanibal posted:

I mean what is the Presidency itself if not the King of Cops?

Indeed, it’s almost like if you hate the idea of a state having a monopoly of violence it’s probably time to own being an accelerationist and base any primary votes on that.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Helsing posted:

It seems like a conscious strategy though, publicly declaring yourself in favour of doing something when all the cameras are rolling and then quietly walking it back the next day on the assumption nobody who matters will call you out on it. It feels a lot more cynical than just feeling the need to please a given audience in the moment.

It's so weird, too -- if she's comfortable with lying, then why even bother walking it back?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Kamala is gonna smash Warren, and all the wokes will be very confused.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Z. Autobahn posted:

This is inadvertently a great example of Sirota's hackery. "12 point gain since April, *now* 6 points behind Biden" sure makes it sound like Bernie was way behind Biden in April, but then he gained 12 points, and now he's just 6 behind! Let's just check what the April ABC poll was...


Oh. So Bernie surged from 6 points behind Biden to.... 6 points behind Biden. This is the definition of a "nothing matters" poll, not some great win for Bernie.

Biden announced on April 26. It's a little disingenuous to cite an April poll and say "See? No change!"

Also Sirota is Bernie's speechwriter; of course he's going to trumpet a poll that looks good for Bernie. Especially when the narrative among the mainstream media is "It's all over for Bernie!!!" when the polls don't really suggest this.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007



Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
https://twitter.com/jlrindahl/status/1146824274012884992

Did I mention that Harris loving sucks?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Helsing posted:

It seems like a conscious strategy though, publicly declaring yourself in favour of doing something when all the cameras are rolling and then quietly walking it back the next day on the assumption nobody who matters will call you out on it. It feels a lot more cynical than just feeling the need to please a given audience in the moment.

This is the result of sucking up all Hillary's lovely staff that she could. Because if you want to win you should definitely take all the advice you can get from veterans of Hillary 08 and Hillary 16.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Gyges posted:

This is the result of sucking up all Hillary's lovely staff that she could. Because if you want to win you should definitely take all the advice you can get from veterans of Hillary 08 and Hillary 16.

Naw, I think it's a reflection of who Harris actually is (a power-seeking politician first and foremost). She'd be like this with any staff.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Z. Autobahn posted:

Naw, I think it's a reflection of who Harris actually is (a power-seeking politician first and foremost). She'd be like this with any staff.

Unfortunately probably true. She didn't need Hilldawg's ex-consultants to tell her to refuse to prosecute Mnuchin.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1146869989275832321

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action

"You haven't even seen my final yarmulke" Biden gloated

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Majorian posted:

This is such a weird thing for her to say. Is it just kind of a lawyer mental tic that she's exhibiting when she does this? "Oops, that thing that I said last week that everybody loved? Yeah, the opposite of that."

The debate was never about busing, the debate was about making Biden look old and senile

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Typo posted:

The debate was never about busing, the debate was about making Biden look old and senile

Well, but here's the thing: she didn't have to comment on busing at all after the debate. Vocally pulling a 180 on it is a very, very weird thing to do when it's not something you're running on. Sort of an...error that's...unforced, if you will.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Majorian posted:

Well, but here's the thing: she didn't have to comment on busing at all after the debate. Vocally pulling a 180 on it is a very, very weird thing to do when it's not something you're running on. Sort of an...error that's...unforced, if you will.

I mean, she didn't do it unprompted, a reporter asked her about it and then pressed on it when she tried to deflect?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Is this not like, profoundly blasphemous? Like if someone handed me a Bernie 2020 crucifix I’d be insulted and I haven’t been to church in a decade.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Lightning Knight posted:

Is this not like, profoundly blasphemous? Like if someone handed me a Bernie 2020 crucifix I’d be insulted and I haven’t been to church in a decade.

https://twitter.com/gustavot888/status/1143238472381059072

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

ok never mind I’m ok with this

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

So many yarmulkes, you wouldn’t believe how many yarmulkes I have

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Kevyn
Mar 5, 2003

I just want to smile. Just once. I'd like to just, one time, go to Disney World and smile like the other boys and girls.
Are they the best yarmulkes though?

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