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Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Check your local map in Sniflheim, there should be an exit marked as leading to the Snaerfelt.

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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Bongo Bill posted:

Check your local map in Sniflheim, there should be an exit marked as leading to the Snaerfelt.

I found it. I'm just mad that the game misled me.

Roluth
Apr 22, 2014

So, I may pick this up during the Steam Summer Sale. Any trap options for skills? Anything I should grab right away?

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Roluth posted:

So, I may pick this up during the Steam Summer Sale. Any trap options for skills? Anything I should grab right away?

Nah, the game doesn't make you spend your skill points until you want to and you can pay a tiny amount of gold to refund your points so you can respec if you want.

I respecced the Hero at least three times.

BrightWing
Apr 27, 2012

Yes, he is quite mad.
Respec'ing skill points is cheap and encouraged.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Yeah, unlike 8, you don't have to carefully plan out your build, because one or two level-appropriate random encounters is enough money to respec a character. So just play around and find what works for you.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.
I think I've respecced everyone at least 6 or 7 times.

Draile
May 6, 2004

forlorn llama
The respec system also allows, even encourages, you to respec out of a tree you went into only to reach a node in a different tree. Get your points back.

Note this doesn’t work with ? nodes, those flip back to locked if the prerequisites are no longer met.

Hoffadoff
Sep 27, 2008

I Wanna Rock Your Body
(till the break of dawn)
So I just made it to act 3 and I'm confused. Does the hero not remember anything from the future? Why wasnt he screaming at the top of his lungs that the king was the bad guy?

Also Eric is the greatest. He single handedly destroyed all the bosses at the end of act 2. Divide and oomphle plus persecuter are the greatest thing ever.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Hoffadoff posted:

So I just made it to act 3 and I'm confused. Does the hero not remember anything from the future? Why wasnt he screaming at the top of his lungs that the king was the bad guy?

Keep playing.

Social Animal
Nov 1, 2005

In about a month I know I'll be craving some DQ and I need you guys to help me. The only two I've never played are 7 and 9. Should I do 9 first since it's older than the 3DS remake of 7? I played 11 before 8 and the downgrade feeling kind of hurt my enjoyment of 8 so that's why I'm asking. 7 looks fun but that commitment to 70-100 hours is pretty scary and I feel like 9 will get a remake soon maybe? I don't have a 3DS, is emulation of 7 smooth on a beefy PC or should I buy a used 2DS for it? I do have a DS I haven't turned on in ten years I can use for 9 if emulation sucks for that.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Of the two, DQ9 is far easier to emulate. This seems obvious, but DS emulation is in a much better state than 3DS, AFAIK. Any halfway decent PC should be able to emulate DQ9 at a decent, if not perfect, framerate. Although DQ7 3DS is listed on the Citra website as being "Great" compatibility with the emulator, so if you have a strong PC setup it should run fine.

garthoneeye
Feb 18, 2013

Joke answer: emulate dwvii (PS)

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Some Numbers posted:

Nah, the game doesn't make you spend your skill points until you want to and you can pay a tiny amount of gold to refund your points so you can respec if you want.

I respecced the Hero at least three times.

After stage two when you get that giant sword, I respected for greatswords because I thought that was the direction the game was going, but nope, I ended up respecing back. I'm super happy they made it so cheap to do so.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

LorneReams posted:

After stage two when you get that giant sword, I respected for greatswords because I thought that was the direction the game was going, but nope, I ended up respecing back. I'm super happy they made it so cheap to do so.

Yeah, I did the same thing.

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
You should go giant swords anyway because unloading an Oomphled Unbridled Blade on some poor sap is never not cathartic as poo poo

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




My first run I did greatswords because I thought the damage boost would really help and I didnt really struggle with the less defense outside of the Luminary trials and endgame where bosses just do 400 damage whenever they feel like it.

JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
of SA-Mart forever

Commander Keene posted:

Of the two, DQ9 is far easier to emulate. This seems obvious, but DS emulation is in a much better state than 3DS, AFAIK. Any halfway decent PC should be able to emulate DQ9 at a decent, if not perfect, framerate. Although DQ7 3DS is listed on the Citra website as being "Great" compatibility with the emulator, so if you have a strong PC setup it should run fine.

You made me think about Citra for hte first time in literally years, so I want to do some experimenting. I managed to play the first level of Epic Yarn with no problems, so perhaps it's come along quite a bit? Now that the 3ds is on its last legs - are they still manufacturing them? - emulation is kind of important. After all, Nintendo isn't going to rerelease everything on the Switch (at a wildly inflated price, naturally).

Social Animal
Nov 1, 2005

JustJeff88 posted:

You made me think about Citra for hte first time in literally years, so I want to do some experimenting. I managed to play the first level of Epic Yarn with no problems, so perhaps it's come along quite a bit? Now that the 3ds is on its last legs - are they still manufacturing them? - emulation is kind of important. After all, Nintendo isn't going to rerelease everything on the Switch (at a wildly inflated price, naturally).

I can't speak for how it was back in the day but I did use it for Samus Returns last year and DQ8 a couple months ago. Both worked but there was still some massive stuttering at certain spots (overworld in DQ8 is rough) and sound issues personally. They were definitely playable but I'm tempted to just pick up one of those old 2DS systems for the real feel.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

JustJeff88 posted:

I assume that you mean just "DS" since the 3ds has only been out for 8 years, but yes it's quite good.

I've poked around a bit about 3ds emulation and apparently it's looking for very difficult to impossible, and that's without trying to do anything in 3D. I was disappointed to hear that. Emulation is fast becoming the only way to preserve older games that the creators want to pretend no longer exist because they worry that older, better games might cut into their profits.

Yea my bad. I always forget that 3DS != nDS.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

RareAcumen posted:

My first run I did greatswords because I thought the damage boost would really help and I didnt really struggle with the less defense outside of the Luminary trials and endgame where bosses just do 400 damage whenever they feel like it.

Greatswords for the hero in Act 1 is a good choice imo. Then once you get to middle of act2 and you get your good 1 handed swords, you dual wield. Though I played on harder monsters and stayed with dual-wielding from beginning to end, so really it doesn't matter that much.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

garthoneeye posted:

Joke answer: emulate dwvii (PS)

This but unironically.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Oh boy the part of DQVII where you lose your spells and abilities was not a fun time. Glad I'm past that.

HPanda
Sep 5, 2008

OhFunny posted:

Oh boy the part of DQVII where you lose your spells and abilities was not a fun time. Glad I'm past that.

It could have been a clever little novelty if it lasted a single run through that dungeon, but it goes for entirely too long.

Saxophone
Sep 19, 2006


So how is DQ Builders 2? I know it's not out here yet, but I'm having trouble googling some reviews for it. I had fun with the first one, so I'm tempted, but details would be nice.

keirharder
Jul 22, 2017

Saxophone posted:

So how is DQ Builders 2? I know it's not out here yet, but I'm having trouble googling some reviews for it. I had fun with the first one, so I'm tempted, but details would be nice.

I loved the first one but the only feedback I’ve seen about the second is that it’s apparently really grindy? I’m busy with ffxivs amazing new expansion at the moment so I’m just going to wait a few months and see how people find it.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.
I think I've reached the point in DQ11 where everything I have left to do is either go down the checklist and fill everything out (Bestiary and item list, which.... will be tedious) or something that I'll need to grind a bunch of levels to do (final of Drustan's trials and the Wheel of Harma). I'm hesitant to go and beat the final boss because when I do that I tend to lose motivation on finishing up the other stuff, but I'm already around level 70 and I don't want the last guy to be a curbstomp so I'm kind of at a crossroads. Are there recommended levels for these last few things?

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


OhFunny posted:

Oh boy the part of DQVII where you lose your spells and abilities was not a fun time. Glad I'm past that.

Yeah that poo poo is rough as hell

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

TriffTshngo posted:

I think I've reached the point in DQ11 where everything I have left to do is either go down the checklist and fill everything out (Bestiary and item list, which.... will be tedious) or something that I'll need to grind a bunch of levels to do (final of Drustan's trials and the Wheel of Harma). I'm hesitant to go and beat the final boss because when I do that I tend to lose motivation on finishing up the other stuff, but I'm already around level 70 and I don't want the last guy to be a curbstomp so I'm kind of at a crossroads. Are there recommended levels for these last few things?

I kept finding things in Act III I forgot I needed to redo to fix, like the Warrior's Rest Inn dream plot, reuniting Sylvando with his father, etc., because I've been focused on gearing up instead.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Shugojin posted:

Yeah that poo poo is rough as hell

I dumped all the seeds I was hording, except the int ones, into the Hero to help get past it.

I keep bouncing between playing VII, VIII, and XI.

AzraelNewtype
Nov 9, 2004

「ブレストバーン!!」

TriffTshngo posted:

I think I've reached the point in DQ11 where everything I have left to do is either go down the checklist and fill everything out (Bestiary and item list, which.... will be tedious) or something that I'll need to grind a bunch of levels to do (final of Drustan's trials and the Wheel of Harma). I'm hesitant to go and beat the final boss because when I do that I tend to lose motivation on finishing up the other stuff, but I'm already around level 70 and I don't want the last guy to be a curbstomp so I'm kind of at a crossroads. Are there recommended levels for these last few things?

If you don't want the final boss to be a curbstomp, there's always the option of fighting him the hard way. Even at max level it can be... intense.

(Okay, so maybe I didn't do it that way on purpose, but you can!)

The n00b Avenger
Dec 21, 2014
Level 70 is already high enough to finish everything in the game as long as you're flexible with your setups and strategies.

If you're stubborn about doing things a specific way then it's a different story though

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.

The n00b Avenger posted:

Level 70 is already high enough to finish everything in the game as long as you're flexible with your setups and strategies.

If you're stubborn about doing things a specific way then it's a different story though

I'm sure I could probably finish those last two things (the final Harma & Drustan challenges) fairly easily if there wasn't a turn limit aspect to them. I'd really rather not just bash my head against them trying a million different half baked strategies.

JerikTelorian
Jan 19, 2007



I'm sorta thinking of grabbing DQ11 on switch because it seems like a a good game to have for sitting in bed or traveling.

Is there anything I'd miss by not getting it on PC?

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

No, the Switch is going to be the definitive edition with even some extra content that as far as I've heard the other platforms aren't getting.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

JerikTelorian posted:

I'm sorta thinking of grabbing DQ11 on switch because it seems like a a good game to have for sitting in bed or traveling.

Is there anything I'd miss by not getting it on PC?

its the reverse actually, lol. the switch version has bonus content and i'm real mad about it!

RVWinkle
Aug 24, 2004

In relating the circumstances which have led to my confinement within this refuge for the demented, I am aware that my present position will create a natural doubt of the authenticity of my narrative.
Nap Ghost

The Ninth Layer posted:

No, the Switch is going to be the definitive edition with even some extra content that as far as I've heard the other platforms aren't getting.

The PC has higher resolution and framerate. I played the whole game at 1440p and 90 fps while the Switch version will almost certainly be 30 fps. It will also probably be easier to farm the casinos on PC due to programmable macros. They haven't announced anything but I imagine it would be super easy to add all the new content as DLC.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



I mean, I hope they do add all the stuff from the Switch version as DLC for the others (ps4 owner here), but I'm not expecting anything. If anything, I figure it'll probably be a situation like Persona 5, where you're just expected to double-dip because gently caress you, that's why.

I'll pick it up if it ever goes on sale for a decent price. That's like buying DLC right?

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

RVWinkle posted:

The PC has higher resolution and framerate. I played the whole game at 1440p and 90 fps while the Switch version will almost certainly be 30 fps. It will also probably be easier to farm the casinos on PC due to programmable macros. They haven't announced anything but I imagine it would be super easy to add all the new content as DLC.

I'd be fine with them selling it as DLC 6 months later or something.

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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Commander Keene posted:

I mean, I hope they do add all the stuff from the Switch version as DLC for the others (ps4 owner here), but I'm not expecting anything. If anything, I figure it'll probably be a situation like Persona 5, where you're just expected to double-dip because gently caress you, that's why.

I'll pick it up if it ever goes on sale for a decent price. That's like buying DLC right?

Yeah. From the sound of it, they're totally changing the game up with more scenarios and the party talks in combat and everyone runs around on the map (Hopefully this means you can swap who's in front too.)

I'd totally buy it again because this game ruled for 97% of the time I spent with it and I'd gladly throw them more cash.

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