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The motorcyclist should have been charged for a bunch of reasons. The car driver should also have been charged for a bunch of reasons. If only the motorcyclist was charged them yeah it's bullshit.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:The driver attempted to murder him. That is utterly unambiguous. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Arrest-Road-Rage-Camera-Motorcyclist-Kicks-Sedan-Before-Multi-Car-Crash-475441623.html
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azurite posted:Repairing a foundation can be so tiresome.
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if you're trying to ruin the thread with terrible puns then hey, michelin accomplished
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Let's not retread things here. We could spin out of control, or drift too far from the topic.
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thatguy posted:https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Arrest-Road-Rage-Camera-Motorcyclist-Kicks-Sedan-Before-Multi-Car-Crash-475441623.html Wait.. they're claiming that the kick caused the car to lose control? jesus loving christ. It's clear that the driver tried to take the motorcyclist out and hosed up. e: oh no, the guy in the video says he swerved in to him but isn't at fault... because??? This just reminds me that in the UK as a cyclist motorists can kill me, even intentionally, and probably won't see any jail time. hemale in pain fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jul 4, 2019 |
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Jul 4, 2019 15:48
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Unless it's on that one poorly laid out crossroad where people keep getting hit and the crown finds it cheaper to prosecute people for unsafe driving than admit fault and redesign the road, add stop signs, or reduce the foliage.
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hemale in pain posted:Wait.. they're claiming that the kick caused the car to lose control? jesus loving christ. It's clear that the driver tried to take the motorcyclist out and hosed up. probably the driver said the kick caused him to react and lose control, which is plausible. You see the entire thing of the motorcyclist kicking the rear quarter but the driver of the car doesn't and you have no idea what intentions are. Your argument should be taken as "if I throw a rock at this car and the car chain reaction wrecks himself and and then injures another party I'm not at fault because he should have known I was throwing a rock and not react" which is loving ludicrous. End result was almost certainly something like 70/30 or 60/40 fault on the motorcycle vs the car for initiating contact and invading the lane, and then the 75 year old dude in the SUV sued the gently caress out of both of them which seems appropriate and just. End result was the cyclist pleading no contest to felony hit and run, they both should never be allowed to drive again but whatevs
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Jul 4, 2019 17:18
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That video does a good job illustrating the affect of vehicle center of gravity Car spins out at highway speed: car stays on wheels Grotesque SUV-pickup frankenstein monster (it's an Escalade EXT) spins out at highway speed: immediate rollover
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thatguy posted:invading the lane Lanesplitting is legal in California (as it should be everywhere)
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Icon Of Sin posted:Let's not retread things here. We could spin out of control, or drift too far from the topic.
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solarNativity posted:Lanesplitting is legal in California (as it should be everywhere) lanesplitting is slow or stopped traffic in order to relieve congestion
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Jul 4, 2019 17:42
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If your reaction to being startled while driving is to swerve into a motorcycle alongside you, you don't have any place driving. And if you are driving and you do that, you should be prosecuted.
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Jul 4, 2019 17:53
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I know posting Colin Furze is cheating, but consider this - how would you secure boxes of fireworks to a wire frame? Would it include hammering threaded steel rods through them and then cutting them to length with an angle grinder? (video starts at relevant time) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDwm7drCiPY&t=90s Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Jul 4, 2019 |
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Jul 4, 2019 17:56
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I know posting Colin Furze is cheating, but consider this - how would you secure boxes of fireworks to a wire frame? I, uh, certainly wouldn't stand on top of it while it's going off, either.
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Jul 4, 2019 18:15
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Driving in countries where lane splitting is normal terrifies me every single time. But I don't swerve into them I just drive normal and clench my butt cheeks real good.
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Jul 4, 2019 18:17
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Lou Takki posted:Driving in countries where lane splitting is normal terrifies me every single time. But I don't swerve into them I just drive normal and clench my butt cheeks real good. When I was in Gosport my drive to work was down a road with one lane in each direction. Motorcycles were allowed to split the lanes, and there were also bicycle lanes on the outside. Felt like if you moved in inch in either direction you were going to take someone’s head off with your wing mirror.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:If your reaction to being startled while driving is to swerve into a motorcycle alongside you, you don't have any place driving. And if you are driving and you do that, you should be prosecuted.
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Jul 4, 2019 18:36
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at worst it's going to cause him to lose balance, fall over, and put everyone around him in danger as they try to avoid hitting the guy skidding down the highway or, it could escalate a traffic disagreement that should have stopped with everyone involved driving off and muttering about idiots in traffic
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yeah the motorcyclist was not at fault there. you cannot knock a 3,000-pound vehicle out of control by kicking it with one leg from a 400-pound (okay, 650, it's a harley) moving platform. here is what happens when the car driver doesn't react https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMv4Xtm73c the motorcyclist was a dumbshit and should be fined for vandalism or whatever but the car driver is the one who failed to maintain control of his vehicle. to me it looks like the swerve was intentional, too; wouldn't you reflexively steer away from a loud bang instead of towards it? the article says that the driver and the motorcyclist had already exchanged angry words and gestures so i'm inclined to call that attempted murder on the car's part. acab though and in america it's not illegal to kill someone with your car
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The motorcyclist is at fault the same reason someone honking in a non emergency situation is at fault. You dont gently caress around with stimula related to emergencies. Don't honk at someone who is otherwise following the law even if they are in your way, don't kick quarter panels. Make the road a better place.
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Think we almost got this one solved, boys
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starkebn posted:Imgur is bringing all the hits today Is he wearing safety shorts?
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FuturePastNow posted:That video does a good job illustrating the affect of vehicle center of gravity It didn't flip because of the spin; trucks can and do spin out at highway speeds without flipping. If you watch closely you see the car slammed in to it (it was hardly a tap) right in front of the rear wheel, imparting the start of the spin to the truck, then the car spun around again and hit the truck as it was slightly tilted up, which is what finally caused it to flip. You could argue that if he had hit another car it wouldn't of flipped, maybe, but it's not like it rolled at the bat of an eye.
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withak posted:Is he wearing safety shorts? "OSHA: Is he wearing safety shorts? "
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Sagebrush posted:wouldn't you reflexively steer away from a loud bang instead of towards it? Reflexively you would look towards the noise, and steer to where you are looking.
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As a regular human person, I instinctively look towards all sounds and begin running towards them. This is why I have no hands or legs and am dead inside and out. It's science.
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SNiPER_Magnum posted:Reflexively you would look towards the noise, and steer to where you are looking. Found the driver's lawyer
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For me that doesn't look intentional. The swerve to the left looks too quick, like a panic reaction. And after hitting the bike they steer quickly right, that doesn't look like something to do if you want to wedge the bike to the barrier.
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Down and to the left.
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All you have to look at is the motorcyclist piece of poo poo riding away from an accident that flipped over another vehicle to know he's a piece of human garbage and the bike apologists in here might want to pick a better hero to white knight for
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thatguy posted:All you have to look at is the motorcyclist piece of poo poo riding away from an accident that flipped over another vehicle to know he's a piece of human garbage and the bike apologists in here might want to pick a better hero to white knight for username/post combo.
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Oh poo poo, didn't know the driver was a goon
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Anyone who rides a motorcycle should be given the death penalty.
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Cojawfee posted:Anyone who rides a motorcycle should be given the death penalty. Eh, given enough minutes in the saddle nature will take its course.
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Nocheez posted:Eh, given enough minutes in the saddle nature will take its course.
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FuturePastNow posted:That video does a good job illustrating the affect of vehicle center of gravity That's the failure mode for SUVs in multi-vehicular crashes caused by other vehicles. If the SUV hits something, the SUV wins. If something hits the SUV, the SUV rolls over. The SUV also likes to roll over when it's the only vehicle involved.
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Powershift posted:Also, that's why you don't turn your wheels until you're ready to turn. You can see him give the wheel half a turn before he's rammed Yeah my instructor taught me that and it always seemed like a good idea, but funnily enough I was watching that video thinking "that must be terrifying", not "actually that shouldn't happen to me"! zedprime posted:The motorcyclist is at fault the same reason someone honking in a non emergency situation is at fault. You dont gently caress around with stimula related to emergencies. But people honk their horns all the time, and sometimes there are other loud noises because you drove over something you didn't notice, or there's an accident near you or something. Do other people just freak out every time they hear a noise and haul on the wheel and slam the brakes or something? I just slow down a little and look around, I don't assume someone honking their horn always means that a portal to hell has opened in front of my vehicle and I need to take immediate evasive action. I do abide by that "don't honk your horn just because someone did something bad, only honk when there's danger, because the person who did something bad probably already knows what they did
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I'm getting really tired of all these bad home repairs.
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