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agradine posted:Haven't seen any name based toxxes, so I guess I'll be the first. Jose Valasquez posted:You've inspired me Jose Valasquez posted:You've inspired me    Getting the timing right for the screenshot on my phone is bonkers. But if you need a damage number popup specifically I can go back and fill my SD card with shots of Faris standing there.
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Nasgate posted:Getting the timing right for the screenshot on my phone is bonkers. But if you need a damage number popup specifically I can go back and fill my SD card with shots of Faris standing there. No problem, this was good enough for me
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Archenteron posted:Would you like to listen to a 13 minute long dissection and analysis of Battle on the Big Bridge? because it's fairly well done by a music theory guy. lmao, yes please. Kyrosiris posted:Holy poo poo, as a band nerd that loving ruled. 
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Ritznit posted:I will donate 5$, up to 50$ (unless I find more money in the seat cushions when I move next week) for every goon who triple-crowns without Time Mage, Chemist, Bard or Beastmaster. As far as I understand, those are the most effective options for crazy boss shenanigans. I know there are others, and I don't want this to be completely impossible, just no playing with the super broken stuff. I'm happy to donate for anyone who is willing to go through a bit of extra hassle. Hempuli posted:I'll donate $10 for every screenshot of either NED, Shinryu or Omega being beaten with only one team-member alive, up to $100. Preferably with the teammates falling to enemy attacks, but eh, feel free to set things up however you want.     As it turns out, Mystic Knight/Ninja/Samurai is pretty much the perfect combination for shutting down Shinryu and Omega. For Shinryu, Aegis Shield, Diamond Helmet, Bone Mail, and Flame Ring coupled with !Image, Drain from !Spellblade, and Haste from the Masamune meant I could outlast him indefinitely once the shield blocked his opening Tidal Wave. For Omega, I used a Reflect Ring plus the Flame Shield and bounced Haste off Omega's own Reflect. Once he cast Search on himself, I could safely get in two Thundaga-boosted Chicken Knife attacks because Mystic Knight Krile is crazy fast. The only danger was running out of Hi-Potions. (Which I almost did due to the terrible RNG.) I was level 35 by the end, but this team could probably beat both super bosses in the mid-20s if it wanted. Which is rather impressive considering it lacks both Stop and Berserk. Samuel Clemens fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jul 4, 2019 |
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Second run complete, pretty easy time all things considered, but then I did just kind of grind a bunch. So I've only done normal runs so far, now I wanna spice it up a bit, so which other run type should I do if i'm still relatively new?
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Madtrixr posted:Second run complete, pretty easy time all things considered, but then I did just kind of grind a bunch. I always ride pure chaos till I die
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Pure Chaos is the best, but if you're on GBA the Advance one is worth a try. It's a shame there's no Advanced Pure Chaos.
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1234567890num posted:Pure Chaos is the best, but if you're on GBA the Advance one is worth a try. It's a shame there's no Advanced Pure Chaos. I'm really liking my first Pure Chaos run and I second this. Maybe next year?
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1234567890num posted:Pure Chaos is the best, but if you're on GBA the Advance one is worth a try. It's a shame there's no Advanced Pure Chaos. Pure Chaos it is then.  Well, it's not Monk again, so this will be fresh at least. EDIT:  Thats three monks in a row...well at least I can triple crown with this team, at the expense of several hours of time. might as well throw in the victory screen for my second run 
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Gilgamesh summons Enkidu, instantly hit both with the dumb Gaia move that lowers hp to single digits, Enkidu heals itself and Gilgamesh for 6hp with white wind, summoner melees Enkidu to death in one hit. A more pro-er strat have I ever seen.
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If you ever get bored, I found this Youtube channel showing off glitches and other weird stuff in FF5. It's in Japanese, but a lot of it seems obvious enough to figure out what's going on.
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I'm clearing out the Void by killing all the bosses and grabbing the chests I care about so I can get out and breeze through it later. I have the first two tablets and should probably at least go get the third so I can get Meteor. I don't think I've ever tried it without getting all of the tablets, but I'm pretty sure they're not required..? I tried Omega (with Blue/Time/Bard/Cannoneer) and.. nah, not going to bother with a triple crown. Probably, unless I can do it without going out of my way too much. Stun locking the guy with Romeo's Ballad is a neat trick, but then I'm left with a "then what?" I could go Hastega and keep using Romeo's Ballad and have someone else keep Hero's Rime going to get my party up to level 99 and then... something, or maybe go get 1000 Needles and cast it a billion times. Or lightning rods. Quick is neat. I don't seem to have a good way to deal with KOed party members, except Quick > Phoenix Down > heal (White Wind etc). Quick > Vampire > White Wind works pretty well to get everyone in shape, provided they're all alive. I have to rely on rods for elemental damage all around though. blinking beacon nose fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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blinking beacon nose posted:I'm clearing out the Void by killing all the bosses and grabbing the chests I care about so I can get out and breeze through it later. I have the first two tablets and should probably at least go get the third so I can get Meteor. I don't think I've ever tried it without getting all of the tablets, but I'm pretty sure they're not required..? If you have several hours to kill, give one person a Reflect Ring, then break a Poison Rod on them to nail Omega (and pretty much anything else) with Sap. Cast Quick and wait for his HP to burn out at a rate of 2hp per tick. Rolling Time Mage is the easiest triple crown, but good luck sitting around waiting for Sap to do the work.
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Alternatively they can just use cannoneer to slow omega with slow cannon (gotta do all 4 tablet dungeons to get cannoneer shots unlocked) and then use vulner cannon to attack omega with everyone without omega counter attacking. Makes the fight far more manageable when omega is slowed and never used rockets, mustard bombs, or encircle. Edit: means they have to grind out !combine on everyone but that's not hard with Bal basement and L5Death. Slow cannon is turtle shell + any cannon shot (blitz does the most damage). Vulner cannon is iron draft + any cannon shot. It'll do like 800ish damage depending on your level but it will be faster than a quickleak Cannoneer can also berserk and blind shinryu so long as you still have the two ash items for blinding shin. MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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blinking beacon nose posted:I'm clearing out the Void by killing all the bosses and grabbing the chests I care about so I can get out and breeze through it later. I have the first two tablets and should probably at least go get the third so I can get Meteor. I don't think I've ever tried it without getting all of the tablets, but I'm pretty sure they're not required..? Everything after the pyramid is optional, but with your party, you probably do want Meteor.
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MagusDraco posted:Alternatively they can just use cannoneer to slow omega with slow cannon (gotta do all 4 tablet dungeons to get cannoneer shots unlocked) and then use vulner cannon to attack omega with everyone without omega counter attacking. Makes the fight far more manageable when omega is slowed and never used rockets, mustard bombs, or encircle. They also have Bard, which means there isn't any need for that nonsense, just stop lock Omega and fill him full of Thunder Cannon.
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Kyrosiris posted:They also have Bard, which means there isn't any need for that nonsense, just stop lock Omega and fill him full of Thunder Cannon. Oh poo poo, I both (a) forgot about and (b) have never used Combine. I should probably grab some ingredients and other stuff, set my emulator to 16x speed, set up a macro and go to bed. I gotta look into how Combine works because I imagine it being a lifesaver with Exdeath too. That'll be worth grabbing all four tablets, since I'll be grabbing three anyway.
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The infoposts channel in discord has all the information, but suffice it to say if you song boost yourself to level 99, Thunder Cannon would be coming in at 440 * 42 = 18000-ish damage (truncated to 9999, naturally).
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I've run up against something of a Brick Wall with World 2 Exdeath with a party of White Mage/Red Mage/Ranger/Oracle (using the fiesta patch). I can handle the first phase just "fighting fair" with healing and buffing so he starts dispelling rather than attack. But once he hits phase 2 his damage pretty much just one-shots anyone he targets. I've got two staves of light for the staff users (and a spare, because I got lucky), but I was dumb and didn't want to grind for reflect rings, and I'm out of elemental rods to break. The party is level 26 currently, do I just need to start grinding?
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Odysseus S. Grant posted:I've run up against something of a Brick Wall with World 2 Exdeath with a party of White Mage/Red Mage/Ranger/Oracle (using the fiesta patch). I can handle the first phase just "fighting fair" with healing and buffing so he starts dispelling rather than attack. But once he hits phase 2 his damage pretty much just one-shots anyone he targets. I've got two staves of light for the staff users (and a spare, because I got lucky), but I was dumb and didn't want to grind for reflect rings, and I'm out of elemental rods to break. The party is level 26 currently, do I just need to start grinding? !White on three characters should keep up with Shell/Blink/Reflect casting, no?
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Samuel Clemens posted:Do you have everyone in the back row with Shell and Protect in place? Exdeath hits hard, but he shouldn't be able to one-shot level 26 characters who are fully buffed. Yeah, with Shell, his -aga spells should be doing under 400 damage, which is nothing at 26.
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Thanks y'all. The attempts I did had !white on three characters, and I tried to keep buffs up through dispels while doing what measly damage I could, but occasionally a vacuum wave just gibs someone and I get stuck in the spiral of ressing and healing and dying, and I don't quite have time to put shell up. As for the back row, everyone's in it, but is it worth essentially passing the turn to move back when he pulls everyone forward? e: Made another attempt, made sure to keep up the buffs at all time, and it went flawlessly this time. Thanks for the help, everyone! Odysseus S. Grant fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Success!  That took way too many tries to remember how the drat fight works. I haven't played FFV past like halfway through world 2 in probably 10 years or more. This party was interesting - Gladiator was fantastic single-target damage when it worked, Summoner was great MT damage, Monk was... alive to use items/Mix, and Chemist was Chemist. We had a serious lack of healing, multitarget or otherwise, since we were primarily reliant on Sylph, potions, and Mix.  Gladiator Bartz had !Mix and the Hermes Sandals for the final fight, and aside from !Finisher spam, was a third raisebot with Potion+Phoenix Down.  Chemist Lenna had !Summon and an Angel Ring. We actually had a rather sparse list of summons; the only optional ones I picked up were Sylph, Golem, Syldra, Odin, Phoenix, and Bahamut. Those are really all you need, but it's weird to have so many blank spaces!  Summoner Krile had !Drink and a Protect Ring. I forgot to get the second Hermes Sandals, those would've been way better. She and Lenna each chugged a Goliath Tonic and a Hero Cocktail to survive Almagest and boost damage, then did nothing but Bahamut and Phoenix for the rest of the fight. Bringing each other back with Phoenix happened so often I wasn't even keeping track of their MP, and they both had Gold Hairpins.  Monk Faris could survive Almagest without any liquid assistance, so she would spam !Finisher if we were in decent shape, and throw out Gold Needles and/or Phoenix Downs otherwise. This was interesting, but I dunno if I wanna participate again next year. I'll try the randomizers some time in between and see if it rekindles my love for the game. It's one of my favorites in the series but I played it to death early on and don't tend to continue for very long once I have all the main job sets, either because I get bored of the game itself or because some other game distracts me. 
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Jose Valasquez posted:You've inspired me  White/Mystic/Bard/Cannon. This team has absolutely no problem with random encounters.   Chicken Knife with 0 power at 99 Strength, Agility and Level.  The combined power of !Sing and !Combine. 1234567890num fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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Pure Chaos put together a very fun team of Samurai/Summoner/Mystic Knight/Time Mage. Zeninage, time magic, and being able to abuse or ignore a lot of elemental stuff made for a pretty easy run overall, and Quick cheese let me get Omega down (thanks thread) Nessie vomited NED to death at a nice rate of six Nessies Per Turn, a very respectable NPT that didn't even let NED Almagest me  Omega died... slowly and still managed to kill half my party before idling to death  Shinryu was just a rigged DPS race, four casters with Quick and a dozen elixirs I'm willing to burn kinda make sure of that My next Pure Chaos starts with Blue mage, which is entirely new for me. What're considered the best spells to nab for them?
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Well that was fun and wholesome, I'll definitely be doing this again. Ended up with thief, summoner, geomancer and dragoon. Thief with powered up chicken knife was insane, and four people that can summon is legitimately broken.
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Darwinism posted:My next Pure Chaos starts with Blue mage, which is entirely new for me. What're considered the best spells to nab for them? There's really no reason not to fill out the spell list.
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Level 5 death, level 2 old, dark spark, aera / ga, flame thrower, death claw, white wind, mighty guard, 1k needles, flash Forgot aqua rake and gobbo punch and might as well grab self destruct to speed up Galuf derra fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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1000 Needles is too much of a pain in the rear end to be worth getting. Also you forgot Vampire.
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Vampire is good I just never use it. And I forgot Mind Blast but you'll get that before you need it.
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Kyrosiris posted:Also you forgot Vampire. GBA Only, there; it's nice in SNES/Project Demi, but not nearly the wunderkind it is thanks to the port's bugs.
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Boosted !dualcast Holy kind of trivialises the whole void, huh? And I guess !rapidfire Chicken Knife helped too.
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The Blue spells I used most were Vampire (on GBA), White Wind, Death Claw, Aqua Breath, and Mighty Guard (which you won't get until much later). Lv 3 Flare and Lv 5 Death were nice to have around too; often I'd just try Lv 3 Flare on a whim and enemies would just get hit.
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blinking beacon nose posted:The Blue spells I used most were Vampire (on GBA), White Wind, Death Claw, Aqua Breath, and Mighty Guard (which you won't get until much later). Lv 3 Flare and Lv 5 Death were nice to have around too; often I'd just try Lv 3 Flare on a whim and enemies would just get hit. Yeah I was pretty under leveled going into the void but Level 3 Flare was great for grinding in the ruins area.
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You're pretty close to meeting the conditions for my 20 jobs toxx. If you feel up to a couple more runs, you can make me spend money on charity.
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ultrafilter posted:You're pretty close to meeting the conditions for my 20 jobs toxx. If you feel up to a couple more runs, you can make me spend money on charity. I've got two or three more in me. That said, the probability of repeats increases with the number of jobs collected. I get the feeling the next 5 jobs are going to be much harder to find than the previous 15!
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Azza Bamboo posted:I've got two or three more in me. That said, the probability of repeats increases with the number of jobs collected. I get the feeling the next 5 jobs are going to be much harder to find than the previous 15! I'm also matching job fair donations, if you want to make the odds in your favor.
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