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Solice Kirsk: Jun 1, 2004; .

Did they? Figured she's gonna be a reporter, not a detective.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 15:40

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 21:52

Mokinokaro: Sep 11, 2001; At the end of everything, hold onto anything; Fun Shoe

I honestly expect part of the series end will be Hawkins closed down under the cover of a Love Canal type disaster

# ? Jul 7, 2019 15:42

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Solice Kirsk posted:

Alexei went out a winner. Something that all of us should aspire to.

I liked his little story. There isn't really alot to go on because he doesn't speak english and he was only in a few episodes. But it felt like he got a glimpse of america after being taken out of the soviet base. Wanting icees and wanting to watch looney toons. I also thought it was pretty touching when he was remarking how the fair looked like fun for americans and the conspiracy guy said, "you don't have to be american to have fun".

Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jul 7, 2019

# ? Jul 7, 2019 15:47

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Mokinokaro posted:

I honestly expect part of the series end will be Hawkins closed down under the cover of a Love Canal type disaster

a what now

# ? Jul 7, 2019 15:48

Just Chamber: Feb 10, 2014; WE MUST RETURN TO THE DANCE! THE NIGHT IS OURS!

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

LMAO the Duffer Brothers are in trouble with scolds for showing not just smoking, but clear and obvious product placement for Marlboro and are promising not to do it again in season 4.

Sounds like they should just smoke a nice, cool refreshing cigarette and calm down

# ? Jul 7, 2019 15:53

The Anime Liker: Aug 8, 2009; by VideoGames

This is your country. This is flavor country.

The upside down is camel town.

Happy 4th of July from your friends at Philip Morris.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 15:58

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

Alan Smithee posted:

a what now

It put the "Super" and "fun" in Superfund.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 15:58

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Acebuckeye13 posted:

It put the "Super" and "fun" in Superfund.

Hooker Chemical Company you say

Wow this season is dark

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:02

TheBizzness: Oct 5, 2004; Reign on me.

You called it goon, coke has re-released New Coke.

https://www.cokestore.com/1985?utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagrambio&utm_content=brand1985

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:20

Solice Kirsk: Jun 1, 2004; .

TheBizzness posted:

You called it goon, coke has re-released New Coke.

https://www.cokestore.com/1985?utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagrambio&utm_content=brand1985

I can't even remember what New Coke tasted like.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:26

The Anime Liker: Aug 8, 2009; by VideoGames

Solice Kirsk posted:

I can't even remember what New Coke tasted like.

Coca-Cola without sugar is Coke Zero

Diet Coke with sugar is New Coke

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:30

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Is this gonna be like crystal pepsi all over again

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:31

ONE YEAR LATER: Apr 13, 2004; Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!; Oven Wrangler

I appreciated Hopper gabbing and chugging a Jolt Cola when given the chance, a man of fine taste.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:33

Solice Kirsk: Jun 1, 2004; .

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

Coca-Cola without sugar is Coke Zero

Diet Coke with sugar is New Coke

The best part of Diet Coke is the chemically taste of fake sugar. They're gonna ruin Diet Coke with sugar!

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:37

The Anime Liker: Aug 8, 2009; by VideoGames

Solice Kirsk posted:

The best part of Diet Coke is the chemically taste of fake sugar. They're gonna ruin Diet Coke with sugar!

Oh no, that chemical flavor is amplified by the sugar.

New Coke fans begrudgingly switched to Diet Coke when New Coke was cancelled because they still wanted that gross perfume counter residue mouth burn flavor.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 16:47

Nuggan: Jul 17, 2006; Always rolling skulls.

Episode 8 theorycrafting spoilers:

I see everyone saying Hopper is alive and giving many reasons for it. Some think the Russians took him and he's the guy in the mid-credits scene. Others say he jumped into the Upside-Down before the machine exploded. Neither of those seem right to me.

Everyone theorycrafting is focusing on the line from his letter, "But, please, if you don't mind, for the sake of your poor old dad, keep the door open three inches", to say he's trapped and they need to keep the portal to the Upside-Down open a crack for him. I think, that like the Russian's mentioning "the American", that this is a red herring. Way too obvious to actually be Hopper.

So what do I actually happened? Well, Joyce turns the keys and closes her eyes. When we see the machine explode, Hopper isn't there next to it. There seems like no reasonable way to escape. Through the lightning from the machine would destroy him, the portal is across a giant gap that theres no reasonable way for him to jump. I think the answer is in a different line from his letter.

"I don't want things to change. So I think maybe that's why I came here, to try to maybe... stop that change. To turn back the clock. To make things go back to how they were."

Hopper mysteriously disappearing from platform at the last possible moment makes sense if season 4 is a time travel plotline. A lot of that was heavily forshadowed this season. And then at the end, they show the Byers family moving away twice. We see them leave, then they're back to before they loaded up the truck as Eleven finished reading the note and they leave again. Back to the Future was a major presence for a lot of this season. We had a russian Terminator, another series with a lot of time travel themes. The original pitch for the show also included the characters traveling through time. It was called Montauk, which was a reference to an MKUltra style government secret project about time travel in Long Island.

Somehow the kids in Season 4 are going to get a device built, in which the Planck constant is going to be an important point, and Eleven will have to use it along with her powers to pop in at the last moment and steal Hopper away from his death in the past and to safety back in their future.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 17:37

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

Nuggan posted:

Episode 8 theorycrafting spoilers:

I see everyone saying Hopper is alive and giving many reasons for it. Some think the Russians took him and he's the guy in the mid-credits scene. Others say he jumped into the Upside-Down before the machine exploded. Neither of those seem right to me.

Everyone theorycrafting is focusing on the line from his letter, "But, please, if you don't mind, for the sake of your poor old dad, keep the door open three inches", to say he's trapped and they need to keep the portal to the Upside-Down open a crack for him. I think, that like the Russian's mentioning "the American", that this is a red herring. Way too obvious to actually be Hopper.

So what do I actually happened? Well, Joyce turns the keys and closes her eyes. When we see the machine explode, Hopper isn't there next to it. There seems like no reasonable way to escape. Through the lightning from the machine would destroy him, the portal is across a giant gap that theres no reasonable way for him to jump. I think the answer is in a different line from his letter.

"I don't want things to change. So I think maybe that's why I came here, to try to maybe... stop that change. To turn back the clock. To make things go back to how they were."

Hopper mysteriously disappearing from platform at the last possible moment makes sense if season 4 is a time travel plotline. A lot of that was heavily forshadowed this season. And then at the end, they show the Byers family moving away twice. We see them leave, then they're back to before they loaded up the truck as Eleven finished reading the note and they leave again. Back to the Future was a major presence for a lot of this season. We had a russian Terminator, another series with a lot of time travel themes. The original pitch for the show also included the characters traveling through time. It was called Montauk, which was a reference to an MKUltra style government secret project about time travel in Long Island.

Somehow the kids in Season 4 are going to get a device built, in which the Planck constant is going to be an important point, and Eleven will have to use it along with her powers to pop in at the last moment and steal Hopper away from his death in the past and to safety back in their future.

This feels weirdly plausible to me, especially since it could also provide an explanation for El losing her powers�that if El physically goes back into the past, the presence of two Els at the same point in time would somehow cancel out each other's powers or something along those lines. Could also be a neat way to explore the nature of the Upside-Down if it's involved.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 17:52

not a bot: Jan 9, 2019

I can't believe there are people complaining about Soviet antagonists in a series set in the 80s and aping a whole lot of 80s stuff and with the person the series revolves around having gained her powers through MKUltra, the CIA program concerned about finding weird new poo poo to use against Soviet Union.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 18:02

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

not a bot posted:

I can't believe there are people complaining about Soviet antagonists in a series set in the 80s and aping a whole lot of 80s stuff and with the person the series revolves around having gained her powers through MKUltra, the CIA program concerned about finding weird new poo poo to use against Soviet Union.

I will say that while the Soviets are natural antagonists for this show and I expected them to show up at some point, the massive underground base was a bit much.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 18:12

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

Acebuckeye13 posted:

a bit much.

is literally the tagline of 80s movies and TV shows.

Also, fuckin lol at people going "there's too many people smoking". Like, this is WAAAY less than it actually was.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 18:28

Regy Rusty: Apr 26, 2010

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I will say that while the Soviets are natural antagonists for this show and I expected them to show up at some point, the massive underground base was a bit much.

Listing that as a negative is crazy to me, that was awesome

# ? Jul 7, 2019 18:31

Solice Kirsk: Jun 1, 2004; .

Nuggan posted:

Episode 8 theorycrafting spoilers:

I see everyone saying Hopper is alive and giving many reasons for it. Some think the Russians took him and he's the guy in the mid-credits scene. Others say he jumped into the Upside-Down before the machine exploded. Neither of those seem right to me.

Everyone theorycrafting is focusing on the line from his letter, "But, please, if you don't mind, for the sake of your poor old dad, keep the door open three inches", to say he's trapped and they need to keep the portal to the Upside-Down open a crack for him. I think, that like the Russian's mentioning "the American", that this is a red herring. Way too obvious to actually be Hopper.

So what do I actually happened? Well, Joyce turns the keys and closes her eyes. When we see the machine explode, Hopper isn't there next to it. There seems like no reasonable way to escape. Through the lightning from the machine would destroy him, the portal is across a giant gap that theres no reasonable way for him to jump. I think the answer is in a different line from his letter.

"I don't want things to change. So I think maybe that's why I came here, to try to maybe... stop that change. To turn back the clock. To make things go back to how they were."

Hopper mysteriously disappearing from platform at the last possible moment makes sense if season 4 is a time travel plotline. A lot of that was heavily forshadowed this season. And then at the end, they show the Byers family moving away twice. We see them leave, then they're back to before they loaded up the truck as Eleven finished reading the note and they leave again. Back to the Future was a major presence for a lot of this season. We had a russian Terminator, another series with a lot of time travel themes. The original pitch for the show also included the characters traveling through time. It was called Montauk, which was a reference to an MKUltra style government secret project about time travel in Long Island.

Somehow the kids in Season 4 are going to get a device built, in which the Planck constant is going to be an important point, and Eleven will have to use it along with her powers to pop in at the last moment and steal Hopper away from his death in the past and to safety back in their future.

This would also explain the disappearance of Dustin's teeth from last season to this one!

# ? Jul 7, 2019 18:31

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

Regy Rusty posted:

Listing that as a negative is crazy to me, that was awesome

eh, just kinda struck me as weirdly implausible. (Which, yeah, I know. Little girl has psychic powers? "Sounds good." Evil monstrosity from another dimension is trying to infiltrate and take over? "All fine." Soviets have an underground base under a shopping mall? "What, am I expected to believe they just had a magic digging machine?" :reject:

)

# ? Jul 7, 2019 18:51

ElectricSheep: Jan 14, 2006; she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Solice Kirsk posted:

This would also explain the disappearance of Dustin's teeth from last season to this one!

Good point - Austin Powers 2 established that time travel is hell on dental work

# ? Jul 7, 2019 18:57

Tokelau All Star: Feb 23, 2008; THE TAXES! THE FINGER THING MEANS THE TAXES!

New season was very silly. Everyone turned into an action hero and the whole premise became insane. In other words, the perfect 80s franchise sequel. I loved it.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 19:05

Nuggan: Jul 17, 2006; Always rolling skulls.

Regarding the russians: I thought their base was just the basement secret area of the Hawkins lab. The shopping mall, and some of the outer properties, were just areas for deliveries and contained some long tunnels that led to the main base. So they didn't even actually build it, they were just using a base that was already there. They probably brought in some new equipment and remodeled a little, but they didn't build a massive underground complex from scratch

# ? Jul 7, 2019 19:05

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Nuggan posted:

Episode 8 theorycrafting spoilers:

I see everyone saying Hopper is alive and giving many reasons for it. Some think the Russians took him and he's the guy in the mid-credits scene. Others say he jumped into the Upside-Down before the machine exploded. Neither of those seem right to me.

Everyone theorycrafting is focusing on the line from his letter, "But, please, if you don't mind, for the sake of your poor old dad, keep the door open three inches", to say he's trapped and they need to keep the portal to the Upside-Down open a crack for him. I think, that like the Russian's mentioning "the American", that this is a red herring. Way too obvious to actually be Hopper.

So what do I actually happened? Well, Joyce turns the keys and closes her eyes. When we see the machine explode, Hopper isn't there next to it. There seems like no reasonable way to escape. Through the lightning from the machine would destroy him, the portal is across a giant gap that theres no reasonable way for him to jump. I think the answer is in a different line from his letter.

"I don't want things to change. So I think maybe that's why I came here, to try to maybe... stop that change. To turn back the clock. To make things go back to how they were."

Hopper mysteriously disappearing from platform at the last possible moment makes sense if season 4 is a time travel plotline. A lot of that was heavily forshadowed this season. And then at the end, they show the Byers family moving away twice. We see them leave, then they're back to before they loaded up the truck as Eleven finished reading the note and they leave again. Back to the Future was a major presence for a lot of this season. We had a russian Terminator, another series with a lot of time travel themes. The original pitch for the show also included the characters traveling through time. It was called Montauk, which was a reference to an MKUltra style government secret project about time travel in Long Island.

Somehow the kids in Season 4 are going to get a device built, in which the Planck constant is going to be an important point, and Eleven will have to use it along with her powers to pop in at the last moment and steal Hopper away from his death in the past and to safety back in their future.

~~The original pitch was not called Montauk~~. The Duffer Brothers are were going to be sued for allegedly stealing the story from Charles Kessler, ~~who wrote [s]Montauk[/s~~].

https://deadline.com/2019/05/stranger-things-plagiarism-lawsuit-duffer-brothers-ended-1202607681/
Ops I thought the guy claiming they stole it, was called Montauk.

Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jul 7, 2019

# ? Jul 7, 2019 19:09

LionArcher: Mar 29, 2010

Just Chamber posted:

Sounds like they should just smoke a nice, cool refreshing cigarette and calm down

I�m a non smoker and I barely noticed smoking this season. But then again I didn�t mind the product placement and thought it was funny.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 19:23

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

CainFortea posted:

is literally the tagline of 80s movies and TV shows.

Also, fuckin lol at people going "there's too many people smoking". Like, this is WAAAY less than it actually was.

Is the goal of this show to just imitate the idiocy of the 80s? Ninjas were also pretty big in the 80s, maybe we can have some of those next season. And at the end, Hopper teams up with the Mujahideen, and blasts the Russians with explosive arrows, rocket launchers and gatling guns.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 19:23

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

And More posted:

Is the goal of this show to just imitate the idiocy of the 80s? Ninjas were also pretty big in the 80s, maybe we can have some of those next season. And at the end, Hopper teams up with the Mujahideen, and blasts the Russians with explosive arrows, rocket launchers and gatling guns.

I really like how you're trying to be some kinda gatekeeper snob with this and yet you just explained an awesome finale to Hopper escaping the russian prison.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 19:35

jazzyhattrick: Jul 1, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

And More posted:

Is the goal of this show to just imitate the idiocy of the 80s? Ninjas were also pretty big in the 80s, maybe we can have some of those next season. And at the end, Hopper teams up with the Mujahideen, and blasts the Russians with explosive arrows, rocket launchers and gatling guns.

Jesus dude, put that inside info you have about season 4 in spoiler tags ffs. Not gonna lie though, sounds pretty dope.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 19:47

Joda: Apr 24, 2010; When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?; Fun Shoe

TheBizzness posted:

You called it goon, coke has re-released New Coke.

https://www.cokestore.com/1985?utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagrambio&utm_content=brand1985

Wasn't this literally the most obvious turn of events in the history of pop culture? On top of the obvious cigarette commercial, this season was also a very obvious commercial for New Coke

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:01

Solice Kirsk: Jun 1, 2004; .

And ice cream. I really want ice cream now.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:04

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

CainFortea posted:

I really like how you're trying to be some kinda gatekeeper snob with this and yet you just explained an awesome finale to Hopper escaping the russian prison.

It's actually intended as a serious question. Is that the point of this show? They don't really seem interested in keeping the tone of the first season, so I have to wonder if that is where we're headed.

Edit: Btw. I recommend Rambo 3 and American Ninja 2 as a double feature of rad dumb 80s movies that are a bit awkward nowadays.

And More fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jul 7, 2019

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:27

SardonicTyrant: Feb 26, 2016; BTICH IM A NEWT
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Very surprised to see them highlighting the speed and efficiency of Soviet engineering.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:28

The Maroon Hawk: May 10, 2008

Nuggan posted:

And then at the end, they show the Byers family moving away twice. We see them leave, then they're back to before they loaded up the truck as Eleven finished reading the note and they leave again.

Your theory seems oddly plausible, but I�m pretty sure this is just a result of lovely editing, which this season has plenty of (especially weird moments like this where it jumps back literally a few minutes into the past and then keeps going like nothing happened)

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:28

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

I feel like it's worth clarifying that Stranger Things is in trouble for including cigarettes so much. Not because it included paid product placement which once again would be legally dicey since cigarette companies can't market to kids.

Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jul 7, 2019

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:34

Bruteman: Apr 15, 2003; Can I ask ya somethin', Padre? When I was kickin' your ass back there... you get a little wood?

Stranger Things 3 - Welcome to Marlboro Country

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:41

Nuggan: Jul 17, 2006; Always rolling skulls.

The Maroon Hawk posted:

Your theory seems oddly plausible, but I�m pretty sure this is just a result of lovely editing, which this season has plenty of (especially weird moments like this where it jumps back literally a few minutes into the past and then keeps going like nothing happened)

Yeah, this part isn't rock solid in the theory or anything, but it fit the theme so I decided to include it. Definitely could just be weird editing though.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:43

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 21:52

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

Bruteman posted:

Stranger Things 3 - Welcome to Marlboro Country

Turns out the Upside Down is triggered by Hopper's latent lung/liver cancer combo. In an unexpected twist, the fourth season of Stranger Things is a big homage to St. Elsewhere.

# ? Jul 7, 2019 20:48

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