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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Here4DaGangBang posted:[✔️] Strongly disagree My exhaust setup is good, not much drone at all. I am really sensitive to drone so if I can tolerate it it means it's pretty mild. From engine back: tubular header, gt255r, Cobb catted downpipe, fswerks 2.5" exhaust. The exhaust is 2.5" through, no resonator, big muffler. Also, consider deleting the sound symposer, my understanding is that it can transmit drone/vibration noises into the cabin.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:01
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After driving a C7 for a week with whatever exhaust management thing it has, I’ve been completely spoiled. My Invidia setup is super loud and brash in comparison and I legit cringe when I start it up in the morning these days. My 4 years ago self was not as enlightened it seems. The ability to change from super stealth in neighborhoods and near speed traps to full on burbles and crackles on twistys is the best. And no drone!
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Jul 5, 2019 16:09
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PaintVagrant posted:My exhaust setup is good, not much drone at all. I am really sensitive to drone so if I can tolerate it it means it's pretty mild. Well, aside from the differences which could possibly result from your different turbo and header design, I don’t know why mine ended up being so loud and droney. The symposer is long gone so it’s not that. And to be clear, I think plenty of people would drive in my car and say “this is fine, what’s the problem?”, but I don’t want overly loud and I don’t want drone at any RPM. I don’t even have a sports cat yet so I cringe imagining what that will be like if we can’t tame it. I still have my stock exhaust if it comes to that but I’m so deep into this damned exhaust system I want to make it work, sunk costs be damned. Unfortunately, the FoST resonator made a minor difference, but I’m kind of shocked by how minor. Unless they installed it backwards, which I’ll check when it goes in next week to have new tips fitted. I will laugh if it was the tips all along. I have an engineer mate who said he wouldn’t be surprised if having the pipes pointing and the ground may make it easier for the sound waves to couple with the body of the car or words to that effect, and I have seen posts from people on forums and whatever saying that if your tips don’t exit at least as far back as factory, they can be droney. I notice most aftermarket systems stick back a bit further than stock... There’s always a quarter wave j-pipe as the next port of call, too... Related: has anyone ever bothered doing any extra sound proofing on one of these cars? I’m tempted to do some just to bring the general road noise levels down.. Here4DaGangBang fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Jul 5, 2019 16:17
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yeah but it adds weight. dynamatting the doors/hatch lid and firewall if you are especially noise conscious will work, however you will add a non negligible amount of weight to the car.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:24
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asides from being a loving pain in the rear end, but if you are doing speakers and a backup cam it aint so bad since your in there anyways
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Jul 5, 2019 16:25
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It turns out the previous owner of my GTI already removed the clutch assist spring, so that was half an hour wasted. Oh well! I wonder about the clutch fluid flow restrictor, too...much harder to see without opening it up.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:32
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sneakyfrog posted:yeah but it adds weight. Understand re: weight penalty but I figure if I add 20-30kg in sound deadening and just get more disciplined about not carrying around a bunch of poo poo in the car which doesn’t need to be in there, it’s a wash.. with the benefits of less road noise and better stereo performance if I do inside the doors and everything. Also at some point I’ll be getting new wheels which should save a decent chunk of weight too, apparently the standard alloys on these things are pretty heavy.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:46
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well then yeah you'll get good results its a solid PITA but yeah stuff works
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Jul 5, 2019 16:49
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I had a very droney 2.75" exhaust before I got the 2.5". It was so bad I dynamatted the rear hatch floor. Didn't help at all. This car just rings like a bell at common 4cylinder exhaust frequencies. I found the 2.75" exhaust droned brutally bad at around 3k-3500 rpm. Btw I did use the fswerks exhaust with stock turbo and manifold and it wasn't droney with that setup either.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:58
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Yeah I decided not to mess with the exhaust on my FoST. Just put a high-flow filter on and an airbox that seals against the hood and that seems to provide enough noise for me. Oh and eventually got sick of the Active Sound Symposer (sidenote: "A.S.S." lol) and took that out.
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Jul 5, 2019 17:03
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Monkey Fracas posted:Man Abarth 500s are so drat cheap used... is the reliability really that bad? I had no problems and then I had to replace both CV axles and the steering column at 37k.
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Jul 5, 2019 17:25
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Here4DaGangBang posted:I will laugh if it was the tips all along. I have an engineer mate who said he wouldn’t be surprised if having the pipes pointing and the ground may make it easier for the sound waves to couple with the body of the car or words to that effect, and I have seen posts from people on forums and whatever saying that if your tips don’t exit at least as far back as factory, they can be droney. I notice most aftermarket systems stick back a bit further than stock... Its kind of funny how this works, I need earplugs in my S2000 normally but when I bolt on my 90* turn to pass sound the car goes to near stock level quiet inside
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Jul 5, 2019 17:29
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BlackMK4 posted:Its kind of funny how this works, I need earplugs in my S2000 normally but when I bolt on my 90* turn to pass sound the car goes to near stock level quiet inside Sorry can you clarify what you mean here? I think autocorrect may have stepped in..
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Jul 6, 2019 04:28
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PaintVagrant posted:I had a very droney 2.75" exhaust before I got the 2.5". It was so bad I dynamatted the rear hatch floor. Didn't help at all. Oh yeah, to be clear then sound proofing would just be a quality of life thing, make the car feel overall a bit more expensive. I’ve read that people have done this to quiet drone and it’s been useless so I have no expectations there. I guess it’s just a hatchback challenge with the cabin resonating so much. I probably should have gone for 2.25” to start with, it’s not like the car needs to breathe that much better, AFAIK the stock downpipe is the bottleneck on the stock system.
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Jul 6, 2019 04:33
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Here4DaGangBang posted:Sorry can you clarify what you mean here? I think autocorrect may have stepped in.. I was saying I think it is funny how a small exhaust change can affect the drone inside the cabin. I have a 3" header back on my S2000 that makes the inside of the car unbearable due to drone, so I wear earplugs when I drive it, however there is a local track that has a 96dB limit. For this specific track I have a 90* elbow that I clamp onto the exhaust to point the sound away from the meter, which allows it to pass, and as an added weird side benefit the drone in the car goes away completely.
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Jul 6, 2019 04:40
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BlackMK4 posted:I was saying I think it is funny how a small exhaust change can affect the drone inside the cabin. I have a 3" header back on my S2000 that makes the inside of the car unbearable due to drone, so I wear earplugs when I drive it, however there is a local track that has a 96dB limit. For this specific track I have a 90* elbow that I clamp onto the exhaust to point the sound away from the meter, which allows it to pass, and as an added weird side benefit the drone in the car goes away completely. Ah, so a 90° tailpipe attachment? Cool, I was hoping that’s what you meant. Gives me some hope that the pipe arrangement may be a big factor...
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Jul 6, 2019 05:12
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Stay with stock pads Kill Hour
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Jul 6, 2019 10:10
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dk2m posted:After driving a C7 for a week with whatever exhaust management thing it has, I’ve been completely spoiled. My Invidia setup is super loud and brash in comparison and I legit cringe when I start it up in the morning these days. My 4 years ago self was not as enlightened it seems. The active exhaust may be one of my favorite features on my mustang. Programable quiet mode for when I leave in the morning (or get home late). Normal mode has a nice growl to it. Sport and Track are full on ludicrous and I can't believe it's a factory exhaust. Sounds like an exotic over 7k. Also no drone even in track mode on the highway which is nice.
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Jul 6, 2019 14:27
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Hey, rev, so should I get the obdeleven pro? A little unclear what the differences are.
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Jul 6, 2019 14:50
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Shopdap has a YouTube video of that exact topic. Mobile or I'd link it. I went pro but I don't know what exact feature sold me on that one.
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Jul 6, 2019 15:49
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Crunchy Black posted:Hey, rev, so should I get the obdeleven pro? A little unclear what the differences are. Just get the regular one. I think the pro gives you more points or something dumb. The one annoying part of these things is they make you watch ads in the app to gain points to make changes. Yeah it's incredibly loving stupid. But the points are easy to bank so don't worry about it. Also I think you can make VCDS style changes without using points, the points are just for the one-click mods.
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Jul 6, 2019 16:58
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revmoo posted:Just get the regular one. I think the pro gives you more points or something dumb. 
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Jul 6, 2019 17:38
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Oh I agree, but it's still a better deal than forking over for a VCDS cable and software, which costs more and is capable of less.
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Jul 6, 2019 17:45
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KidDynamite posted:Stay with stock pads Kill Hour Where's the best place to buy em?
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Jul 6, 2019 17:45
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KillHour posted:Where's the best place to buy em? When I upgraded my FoST brakes to the RS brembos, cheapest I found was rockauto. Tasca parts is also very good.
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Jul 6, 2019 19:54
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Jul 7, 2019 02:12
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That had to scare the poo poo out of you when you walked up to it!
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Jul 7, 2019 02:18
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Better part it out for cheap just to be safe... I call dibs on the seats and AP :P
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Jul 7, 2019 03:29
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I lucked out. A guy who works at the game store I was hanging out in yelled at everyone that the lot was flooding. I had no idea it was even raining! My car was at the lowest point of the parking lot. Another couple of minutes and who knows...maybe a write off.
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Jul 7, 2019 04:20
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How busted are my LCA bushings and how much would you expect a shop to charge to replace them? Front passenger side:  Front driver side: 
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Jul 7, 2019 04:24
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MetaJew posted:How busted are my LCA bushings and how much would you expect a shop to charge to replace them? Are they clunking? Hard to tell what shape they're in but those type are super easy to replace, about 3 bolts per side.
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Jul 7, 2019 11:50
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I have several clunks that I'm trying to track down. I have new struts, tophats, and strut bearings that I am planning to replace. I noticed some play there. I'm not sure if a portion of the clunking is also coming from the LCA though.
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Jul 7, 2019 17:19
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opengl128 posted:The active exhaust may be one of my favorite features on my mustang. Programable quiet mode for when I leave in the morning (or get home late). Normal mode has a nice growl to it. Sport and Track are full on ludicrous and I can't believe it's a factory exhaust. Sounds like an exotic over 7k. Also no drone even in track mode on the highway which is nice. The new 3-cylinder FiST has a bi-modal muffler to go with the various drive modes AFAIK, it would be nice to have that ability. I confirmed that the FoST res has been installed correctly, and the new tips are going on tomorrow morning. I’m more and more certain the tips will make a marked difference. I re-stumbled upon a vid on YouTube where a guy with a Dodge of some description found that his new exhaust was really droney, but when he switched from the stock rear valance (which had those fake exhaust pipe trims built in with the actual pipe exit being back under the bumper and firing through those trims) to the rear valance off some other variant and added tips which protruded out past the bumper a couple of inches, his drone disappeared.. In other news, the stock engine mounts on FiSTS seem really pissweak both in terms of how soft they are and their tendency to fail. Mine has been making a weird creaky noise when it’s cold since last year, and I now know from talking to other owners that this is a classic sign of a mount which has failed or is going to. Ford have confirmed my mount is sagged. I was going to get a new factory mount and augment it with a Powerflex insert (and add an insert to the gearbox mount too) but another local owner just installed the Vibratech Fast Road mounts in both locations and found very little extra vibration and much better feel over the stockers, so I ordered a set of them last night.
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Jul 9, 2019 02:14
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Here4DaGangBang posted:The new 3-cylinder FiST has a bi-modal muffler to go with the various drive modes AFAIK, it would be nice to have that ability. I put the eFocus rear motor mount on my 09 MS3. The PO had installed the Cusco insert, sometimes before I bought it, about 80k miles ago. The original mount seemed undamaged, but the new eFocus amount has made a significant difference. Apparently Focus RS owners and ST owners have done the eFocus swap. I would do that over an insert. I haven't noticed any extra vibrations.
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Jul 9, 2019 02:43
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MetaJew posted:I put the eFocus rear motor mount on my 09 MS3. The PO had installed the Cusco insert, sometimes before I bought it, about 80k miles ago. The original mount seemed undamaged, but the new eFocus amount has made a significant difference. The FoRS has the eFocus RMM from the factory. It’s pretty awful when you use launch control, so I upgraded to the CP-E Stage 2 RMM. Made a huge difference in how the car feels. I’ll eventually upgrade the other two motor mounts to CP-E units too.
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Jul 9, 2019 04:49
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Huge_Midget posted:The FoRS has the eFocus RMM from the factory. It’s pretty awful when you use launch control, so I upgraded to the CP-E Stage 2 RMM. Made a huge difference in how the car feels. I’ll eventually upgrade the other two motor mounts to CP-E units too. Ah I did not know that. Depending on how much longer I keep my car, I may upgrade the motor mounts to the ones made by Damond for my MS3, but I can understand why you'd upgrade from the eFocus to something stiffer on the RS.
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Jul 9, 2019 17:36
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What is an eFocus?
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Jul 9, 2019 22:01
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Here4DaGangBang posted:What is an eFocus? Electric Ford Focus
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Jul 9, 2019 22:13
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Electric Ford Focus Ok, that’s what I thought. I’ve never heard of it! Obvs we don’t get it in Australia. I guess I was thrown because why would an electric car have the same engine mounting points as a petrol, but it makes sense they’d try to use the same ones.
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Jul 9, 2019 22:42
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I'm not even sure what it is. It might be one of those California-only cars for all I know. In my case, there was/is a lot of parts sharing between the mazda 3 and various Focuses (Foci?), and the eFocus RMM, along with strut tophats and strut bearings, were recommended upgrades or alternative parts.
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Jul 9, 2019 22:57
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