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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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crazy cloud posted:I have said it before, when it was more controversial, but if Biden is the nominee I will canvass gotv for trump Please don't
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crazy cloud posted:I have said it before, when it was more controversial, but if Biden is the nominee I will canvass gotv for trump horseshoe vs fishhook theories etc
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Jul 7, 2019 17:21
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crazy cloud posted:I have said it before, when it was more controversial, but if Biden is the nominee I will canvass gotv for trump Biden is the Trump of the left so the logic applies here rationally and if you disagree you are actually the insane one here  because Biden should have primary'd as a republican
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Jul 7, 2019 17:24
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Owning libs by campaigning for trump
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Jul 7, 2019 17:25
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Bernie stans turned out in droves for Trump in 2016, why would expect it to be any different in 2020? Like, at this point I'm honestly torn. Do we HAVE to let Bernie win the primary so his stans don't destroy the world out of spite, or should we shut Bernie down again to send a message, consequences be damned?
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Jul 7, 2019 17:28
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biden as president would be just as if not more destructive as trump and presumably would run successfully as an incumbent in 2024 so if you vote for biden you're for 8 more years of fascist racist rapist rule, if you vote for trump it's only 4. neither gives a poo poo about climate change so that's a wash. And Biden's anti abortion too lmfao
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Jul 7, 2019 17:30
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Calibanibal posted:Bernie stans turned out in droves for Trump in 2016, why would expect it to be any different in 2020? Its the first option, I'm afraid
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Jul 7, 2019 17:32
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crazy cloud posted:biden as president would be just as if not more destructive as trump and presumably would run successfully as an incumbent in 2024 so if you vote for biden you're for 8 more years of fascist racist rapist rule, if you vote for trump it's only 4. neither gives a poo poo about climate change so that's a wash. And Biden's anti abortion too lmfao
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Jul 7, 2019 17:32
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crazy cloud posted:biden as president would be just as if not more destructive as trump and presumably would run successfully as an incumbent in 2024 so if you vote for biden you're for 8 more years of fascist racist rapist rule, if you vote for trump it's only 4. neither gives a poo poo about climate change so that's a wash. And Biden's anti abortion too lmfao Hey, remember that time Clinton almost got rid of social security except get got caught getting top in the oval office which ended up kind of screwing up the timing on that? Vote blue no matter who~ e: Hey, remember that time Obama and Biden almost did the same in... 2010 or 2012 because they wanted to ~balance the budget~ but the GOP didn't want to give them the satisfaction? Marxalot fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Jul 7, 2019 17:42
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E: wrong thread
selec fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Jul 7, 2019 17:58
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DNC Primary 2020: thje only moral thing to do is write in Trump on your primary ballot
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Jul 7, 2019 18:06
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hmm yes this thread could use a good controlled bern
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Jul 7, 2019 18:08
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eke out posted:DNC Primary 2020: thje only moral thing to do is write in Trump on your primary ballot Luckily for everyone Biden isn't going to make it that far. I say, sounding increasingly nervous while staring at a wall covered in post-it notes that say "Super? Tuesday"
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Jul 7, 2019 18:20
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Iamgoofball posted:"person who theoretically could potentially collaborate with repubs to ruin everything" this isn't theoretical, he's done it before on a number of occasions and his whole campaign is about doing it again
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Jul 7, 2019 18:27
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Pinky Artichoke posted:I'm always puzzled how people think Bernie, the guy who has had a laser-focus on a single issue since 1972, is somehow going to prioritize all these things that are not that. Because when Bernie tried to weasel out of Abolish ICE he crumpled like a tin can in the face of left wing anger lol.
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Jul 7, 2019 18:30
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Bernie is the only one who’s recognized being harassed by the left isn’t fun or good so he can shift when he needs to. I don’t think he’s concerned with fake news centrists.
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Jul 7, 2019 18:37
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Nonsense posted:Bernie is the only one who’s recognized being harassed by the left isn’t fun or good. I don’t think he’s concerned with fake news centrists. I’d say Bernie is the only candidate who fears the left wing activist base more than the donor class which as it turns out is really useful to the left wing activist base!
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Jul 7, 2019 18:37
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crazy cloud posted:biden as president would be just as if not more destructive as trump and presumably would run successfully as an incumbent in 2024 so if you vote for biden you're for 8 more years of fascist racist rapist rule, if you vote for trump it's only 4. neither gives a poo poo about climate change so that's a wash. And Biden's anti abortion too lmfao This isn't true just for the judicial appointments. I despise Biden and think he would be a horrible president but what you're saying just isn't true.
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Jul 7, 2019 18:46
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mcmagic posted:This isn't true just for the judicial appointments. I despise Biden and think he would be a horrible president but what you're saying just isn't true. lol McConnell isn't letting Biden appoint judges
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Jul 7, 2019 18:47
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crazy cloud posted:lol McConnell isn't letting Biden appoint judges If that happens it's still a better result than 4 more years of Trump appointing 40 year old fascists to every level of the judiciary and probably 2 more SCOTUS seats.
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Jul 7, 2019 18:49
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mcmagic posted:If that happens it's still a better result than 4 more years of Trump appointing 40 year old fascists to every level of the judiciary and probably 2 more SCOTUS seats. Are you brain dead? Jwing 
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Jul 7, 2019 19:31
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What the gently caress are you idiots talking about canvassing for Trump and GOTV for Trump  Like I'm not voting for Biden either but there's a pretty big difference between saying "this ain't it, chief (of the DNC)" and "well actually fascism is really cool and good, if you think about it, and furthermore "Electoral politics is dead and direct action is all we have left" is an acceptable response to an establishment Dem win in the primary. "Welp, better join the fash, I guess" is not.
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Jul 7, 2019 19:41
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biden can rot, cold day in hell before i vote for him "biden is better than trump" how?
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Jul 7, 2019 19:49
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If I tried to vote for Biden or Trump I would probably cough up blood and die.
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Jul 7, 2019 19:56
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crazy cloud posted:lol McConnell isn't letting Biden appoint judges But he'll let Bernie do it?
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Jul 7, 2019 20:01
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Calibanibal posted:If I tried to vote for Biden or Trump I would probably cough up blood and die. I'd vote for one of the random 25 3rd parties on Colorado's ballot for president. Then vote D on everything else.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:01
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Z. Autobahn posted:But he'll let Bernie do it? Bernie won't just shrug and go "whelp guess there's nothing I can do about it," which is in large part the point of building an actual popular movement while running for office (and not discarding it the picosecond you're in office).
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Jul 7, 2019 20:12
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Lightning Knight posted:I’d say Bernie is the only candidate who fears the left wing activist base more than the donor class which as it turns out is really useful to the left wing activist base! Isn't it technically correct that the left wing activists is the donor base for Bernie?
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Jul 7, 2019 20:32
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What's wrong with Julian Castro? He seems good.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:33
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twodot posted:C) The mandate is effectively dead and there is no apparent death spiral, so maybe it just doesn't even matter The mandate is only effectively dead if the Dems don't win the presidency and the Senate. Biden is "saying the quiet part out loud" but short of a tax-based M4A system every Dem proposal includes, at the least, an opt-out-only healthcare plan. Under Medicare for America people who are uninsured would be enrolled in the non-tax-based "public option"--and fully subject to paying the premiums, which would be about 10 percent of one's annual income--deductibles and co-pays not included. The only way to get the insurance industry to adopt a post-ACA plan is by making it compulsory and by not restricting insurers, providers and pharma pricing. This is what they wrote into the ACA, and this is what will be their metric for anything beyond the ACA.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:34
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Bernie won't just shrug and go "whelp guess there's nothing I can do about it," which is in large part the point of building an actual popular movement while running for office (and not discarding it the picosecond you're in office). Okay, so instead of shrugging and giving up, he... does what, exactly?
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Jul 7, 2019 20:35
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Z. Autobahn posted:Okay, so instead of shrugging and giving up, he... does what, exactly? continues the work of uniting and inspiring the people to mass, collective action
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Jul 7, 2019 20:39
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Z. Autobahn posted:Okay, so instead of shrugging and giving up, he... does what, exactly? More than nothing, which is what Biden would do. It's what Obama did also, by the way. Bernie would at least speak the truth about what is / would be happening. He wouldn't just shrug and talk about how we need more bipartisanship.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:39
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So no justices get approved in either scenario, but in the Bernie one, there's some inspiring rhetoric for his base. Got it. Seismic difference.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:44
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Lot of people in denial about Biden appointing Republican-approved justices.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:45
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Z. Autobahn posted:So no justices get approved in either scenario, but in the Bernie one, there's some inspiring rhetoric for his base. Got it. Seismic difference. It could be the difference that takes us the Senate in 2022.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:47
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Okay, let's say the general isn't trump/Biden, it's Kasich/Biden. Are y'all brokebrains voting for kasich? This is a fun rabbit hole, very curious how deep it goes. Also good question earlier: what's Castro's deal? Is there some position he has that renders him persona non grata to the horseshoe theory in action "left"?
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Jul 7, 2019 20:48
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The Ninth Layer posted:It could be the difference that takes us the Senate in 2022. Under a Dem President with a Mitch McConnell Senate blocking everything and an almost-certain economic collapse, Dems will be likely not to lose Senate Seats. Especially given Manchin's looking for an exit strategy.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:51
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The Ninth Layer posted:It could be the difference that takes us the Senate in 2022. Yeah, if Bernie can get the youth votes to turn out, that will affect the down ballot as well. And like other posters have mentioned, Bernie won't just roll over and take McConnell's bullshit. He, along with AOC and the rest of the new Dem blood, will continue to actively call this poo poo out, which will help get the obstructionists primaried.
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Jul 7, 2019 20:54
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Z. Autobahn posted:Under a Dem President with a Mitch McConnell Senate blocking everything and an almost-certain economic collapse, Dems will be likely not to lose Senate Seats. Especially given Manchin's looking for an exit strategy. So who's going to energize turnout for 2022 better? Joe Biden who will shrug his shoulders at McConnell blocking his nominations? Or Bernie Sanders raising hell about it daily?
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Jul 7, 2019 20:55
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