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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

R. Guyovich posted:

neither are the people who sneer at the hated specter of "idpol"

plenty of socialists don't like "idpol" when "idpol" refers to social justice that ignores class or matireal conditions, I don't think it's really mutually exclusive to wanting a socialist society, especially if you disagree with Lenin on nationalism with regards to self-determination

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
idpol is a retarded term because it literally means something different to everyone, especially to people who aren't part of left twitter/extremely online/Reddit etc

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Ace of Baes posted:

it's just called materialism and it's like baby's first Marxism, all the blue check journalists who refer to it as "class reductionism" are not actually socialists, if that helps

yeah no poo poo

R. Guyovich posted:

neither are the people who sneer at the hated specter of "idpol"

yeah thanks. liberals definitely instrumentalize, say, gender politics, to punch left. but, overall, overcoming gender and other opressions are necessary to advance socialism

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
is there another podcast like "it could happen here" but good?

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna
The idea that the centrist vampires care more about social issues than the left is some hardcore historical revisionism to begin with.
"The left won't fight for minorities!" I screech as I reallocate 10$ Billion from inner-city school lunches to build a new latino-baby labor barracks.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Zurakara posted:

The idea that the centrist vampires care more about social issues than the left is some hardcore historical revisionism to begin with.
"The left won't fight for minorities!" I screech as I reallocate 10$ Billion from inner-city school lunches to build a new latino-baby labor barracks.

They're literally drawing a line in the sand for busing.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Actually it's woke to keep schools segregated. That way blacks have their own spaces, whites have their own spaces, and everyone is safer. Just like prison yard politics.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
it's fun to watch the pod people be revealed as hacks and frauds and then get owned online

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

it's fun to watch the pod people be revealed as hacks and frauds and then get owned online

the dark knight was right all along lmao

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

tom, tarence and tanya will never be outed as frauds hth

it's amazing how poisonous nyc can be

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Tom revealed to be wearing a fatsuit the whole time. Is actually lean and attractive.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Tom revealed to be wearing a fatsuit the whole time. Is actually lean and attractive.


Please don't insult hillbilly stav like this

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat

Consummate Professional posted:

I have no idea what's goin on in here but I listened to E1 episode 63 in honor of jeffrey epistein getting indicted

That podcast was awful. gently caress you, btich

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

Zurakara posted:

The idea that the centrist vampires care more about social issues than the left is some hardcore historical revisionism to begin with.
"The left won't fight for minorities!" I screech as I reallocate 10$ Billion from inner-city school lunches to build a new latino-baby labor barracks.

Under their ideology, you can't judge their amount of care for social issues by their actions, because denying their emotions and taking the "reasonable" path of enlightened compromise is their ultimate mark of virtue.

The idealized centrist being is one who feels deeply the suffering of the entire world at all times, and still votes for some of the Republicans on the ballot to keep things balanced.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

i say swears online posted:

tom, tarence and tanya will never be outed as frauds hth

it's amazing how poisonous nyc can be
my leftist friend who moved to nyc from the south loves red scare and anna especially. i think he has actual irony poisoning at this point, he peeled too many layers off the irony onion

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
new york people have this thing where they'll start getting worked up about whatever they're saying, and then they'll catch themselves getting worked up and crack an ironic smile while they're doing it and i don't get it

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Basically, New York is a bad place where people shouldn't live.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i understand that Anna isn't a sports fan, but saying that Boston racism is more restrained than southern racism is laughable. if you actually believe that poo poo, go to Fenway Park and see what happens when an opposing black player does something. and the only worthwhile culture there is imported by people who teach at the colleges. all of the trashiest Italians, Jews, and Irish in the northeast live there

calling her a crypto-fascist implies that she has a core set of beliefs. she doesn't have any, she's a kneejerk contrarian

Gripweed posted:

Basically, New York is a bad place where people shouldn't live.
i live here and i won't argue with that. i love it but it's unnatural

Serf
May 5, 2011


when i was a kid i wanted to live in like new york or los angeles because that's where all the movies were set. now that i've met people from those places i'm good where i'm at. maybe living in atlanta would be cool

The Lobotomy Kid
Aug 27, 2011

and act like a nut.
The only pure podcasts in NY are We Hate Movies and The Giant Beastcast.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

people born and raised in NYC are better than the people who flock here from Ohio

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Is Nima Shirazi living in NYC because thats the only podcaster I'd miss off the top of my head

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Ace of Baes posted:

how historically accurate is the revolutions podcast?

Pretty accurate, to the best of my knowledge.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

StashAugustine posted:

Is Nima Shirazi living in NYC because thats the only podcaster I'd miss off the top of my head

think so

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

the only thing stopping me from making a podcast where i get cynical and negative about sports is the fact that i'd have to promote it constantly on twitter and elsewhere for it to get any traction

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

get that OUT of my face posted:

the only thing stopping me from making a podcast where i get cynical and negative about sports is the fact that i'd have to promote it constantly on twitter and elsewhere for it to get any traction

Just get one of you celebrity comedian friends to be a guest host

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

get that OUT of my face posted:

all of the trashiest Italians, Jews, and Irish in the northeast live (in boston)

hey, some of them moved to new hampshire :colbert:

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

StashAugustine posted:

Is Nima Shirazi living in NYC because thats the only podcaster I'd miss off the top of my head

protect the Citation boys

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
nima was on RWN which should get him cancelled whenever people wake up one day and recall that they believe mark ames is a sexual monster

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Just found out Marx and Bakunin were anti-semites.

Hate to cancel my faves

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

new york people have this thing where they'll start getting worked up about whatever they're saying, and then they'll catch themselves getting worked up and crack an ironic smile while they're doing it and i don't get it



what

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Dreylad posted:

nima was on RWN which should get him cancelled whenever people wake up one day and recall that they believe mark ames is a sexual monster

we're overdue for another "cancel Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi" season

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

we're overdue for another "cancel Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi" season

quick someone find the screen shots and use the caption “BUCKLE UP - Matt Taibbi and Mark Ames wrote an autobiography on doing rape THREAD 1/a lot”

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

This exchange on the last Citations Needed killed me

not an exact quote posted:

Nima: Why do you think the corporate media focuses disproportionately on conflict between different parts of the Left when it comes to topics such as the Green New Deal?
Guest: I guess they think the Left is probably a boring topic to cover and drama like that is a more exciting angle.

That was such a softball question obviously designed to lead to a discussion the motivations and allegiances of bourgeois media. That the topic was completely dodged honestly dumbfounded me.

I used to listen to Belabored which the guest hosts, but I stopped a while back because of the production quality. I remember it being pretty good, if sort of dry, besides that, so I was shocked to be this disappointed with the guest.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Atrocious Joe posted:

This exchange on the last Citations Needed killed me


That was such a softball question obviously designed to lead to a discussion the motivations and allegiances of bourgeois media. That the topic was completely dodged honestly dumbfounded me.

I used to listen to Belabored which the guest hosts, but I stopped a while back because of the production quality. I remember it being pretty good, if sort of dry, besides that, so I was shocked to be this disappointed with the guest.

Tbf, I do think "leftist drama is the only thing 'interesting' about leftism" does play a bit into the reasoning. Just look at how almost every thread in C-SPAM rings up some sort interpersonal fighting over petty bullshit. It's negligent to ignore that the media is explicitly hostile towards the left, but we do have some really entertaining conflicts.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Atrocious Joe posted:

This exchange on the last Citations Needed killed me


That was such a softball question obviously designed to lead to a discussion the motivations and allegiances of bourgeois media. That the topic was completely dodged honestly dumbfounded me.

I used to listen to Belabored which the guest hosts, but I stopped a while back because of the production quality. I remember it being pretty good, if sort of dry, besides that, so I was shocked to be this disappointed with the guest.

I haven't listened to this episode, but I imagine everyone listening to Citations Needed is already on the same page on why the bourgeois media ACTUALLY trains its sights so consistently on the left. There was still probably a fruitful discussion to have on the topic, but the hosts do talk about it a lot, and I'll bet they get tired and a bit demoralized from having to do so regularly.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
new york is cool provided you never make contact with someone who has ideas for a living, because they are all loving delusional.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

MizPiz posted:

Just look at how almost every thread in C-SPAM rings up some sort interpersonal fighting over petty bullshit.

That is SA's Raison D'etre

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Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer
Tom made a quick reference to the Hater's Ball on the most recent trillbillies, and it I let out a loud guffaw

they are the true kings of podcasting

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