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nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Nice piece of fish posted:

Alright, alright it's off the list. I guess I'd want you all to listen too if I said "don't go to Tønsberg". You wouldn't die though, it's just loving boring and the people are assholes.


I there anywhere in Norway where the people (as opposed to moose or nature) will kill you?

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Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Nice piece of fish posted:

:omarcomin:

What can I say, it's different? Different is often good


murder less good. Guess on the balance I'll pass. The US is dangerous enough just in general.

A nord like you? You'll be fine as long as you're not getting into the Christmas spirit

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

nm posted:

I there anywhere in Norway where the people (as opposed to moose or nature) will kill you?

For serious? I mean if you go looking, there's... I was gonna say the police, but they actually won't even kill you if you are a psychotic armed black immigrant murderer on the run, so probably not. Oslo west garden parties? They won't kill you, you'll just wish you were dead.

To be completely serious... maybe if you go to Finnmark and try and gently caress with one of the sami reindeer herds. Some poo poo happens out there they won't find you this decade, and they know it. Other than that I'm sorry, but it's really pretty damned safe. So long as you're over 18 and not on Utøya I guess, check with D-Vox.


Kawasaki Nun posted:

A nord like you? You'll be fine as long as you're not getting into the Christmas spirit

What Christmas spirit? Akevitt? But you need that to sterilize the rakfisk in your mouth.

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets
Epstein had discs labeled mycrimes.jpg

:lol:

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene
Uhh I was thinking of a different tradition disregard.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Lote posted:

Epstein had discs labeled mycrimes.jpg

:lol:

this can't be real. tell me this is real.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

GrandmaParty posted:

I usually take $100 to the El Cortez, take over a $5 or $10 table for blackjack with my friends and spend 3-4 hours drinking.

It's a blast. I consider that money gone.

This guy gets it.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Uhh I was thinking of a different tradition disregard.

You thought I was loving dutch, didn't you. Didn't you. That's it, I'm coming over there and kicking your rear end... depending on how built you are.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

evilweasel posted:

this can't be real. tell me this is real.

sadly it is not

but uh its not that far off

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1148263636151996417

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

lol apparently in the second circuit a non-prosecution agreement entered into by a US attorney in one district doesn't bind another US attorney in another, unless you put the correct language in, which epstein's previous lawyers neglected to do when they drafted the agreement for acosta to rubber-stamp

this may have been so acosta didn't need to get sign-off

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1148278467307302912

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1148292365179686912
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1148293354431475715

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

evilweasel posted:

this can't be real. tell me this is real.

"in a locked safe ... compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: 'Young [name] + [name]'"

Toona the Cat
Jun 9, 2004

The Greatest
The best roast beef is a beef on weck in Buffalo. And it’s much safer than Baltimore.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Nice piece of fish posted:

You thought I was loving dutch, didn't you. Didn't you. That's it, I'm coming over there and kicking your rear end... depending on how built you are.

Hé schat, vergeef me alsjeblief

ook im massief :wink:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
I grew up in Baltimore. There are great restaurants and crime issues are massively overinflated. You're at no risk unless you're poor and black or unimaginably stupid.

Restaurant recs:

The Telltale in the Marriott Delta downtown is incredible, even though it looks like an unassuming hotel bar restaurant. Somehow, the best crab soup I've had in the area.

If you are going to Baltimore you must go to Tio Pepe's. Best spanish food on that entire coast. The restaurant is very 70s luxury aesthetic, and was actually set up to help people immigrate from Spain, which it still does.

I can't tolerate Vegas because even if I'm not participating, witnessing the institutional suffering involved with the casino industry is too soul-crushing for me. I know enough social science and statistics and public health (and game design) to see some of the mechanisms in play, and it's horrific.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Nice piece of fish posted:

You thought I was loving dutch, didn't you. Didn't you. That's it, I'm coming over there and kicking your rear end... depending on how built you are.

Yeah, you're western swedish.

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

mastershakeman posted:

Fly to Vegas and immediately get in a car and go see the Grand canyon then up into Utah and hit as many of the cool places as you have time for. Vegas itself sucks


I'm actually taking a week vacation in August for the first time in 4 or 5 years, I'm pretty nervous since it's at my grandpa's cabin in the UP, 4 feet from the a lake and my kid is only 3. Not going to be relaxing trying to keep him from drowning

Also gonna take him to lake Superior and see if he realizes how different it is from lake Michigan . Lake Superior is way more frightening to me than any ocean I've seen since the waves are so close together and its so drat cold
I measured the depth of the lake at MY MICHIGAN LAKE HOUSE and it's still only 20 inches deep 75 feet from shore (yes I know kids can still drown in that shallow of water).

I basically keep my 3 yo kid in a life jacket whenever we are by the water.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

nm posted:

Yeah, you're western swedish.

Arctic Dutch.

Hoshi
Jan 20, 2013

:wrongcity:

Discendo Vox posted:

I grew up in Baltimore. There are great restaurants and crime issues are massively overinflated.

Why would people possibly overinflate crime issues??

ask me about how many of my friends avoid the area around Drake College religiously :smith:

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

The idea of choosing to visit Baltimore in particular out of the entire United States is rocking me to the core. Even as the fifth, seventh, or twentieth stop on a long trip. Why not stop by Phoenix while you're at it? Maybe Cleveland, too?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Everything I know about Baltimore I learned from that Homicide episode with robin williams.

Popero
Apr 17, 2001

.406/.553/.735
A guy I know was carjacked at gunpoint in front of his Baltimore house like three weeks ago but he wasn't murdered so

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.

Hoshi posted:

Why would people possibly overinflate crime issues??

ask me about how many of my friends avoid the area around Drake College religiously :smith:

I was once told not to go to the Target in the "bad part" of Des Moines. As if such a place exists

Hoshi
Jan 20, 2013

:wrongcity:

EwokEntourage posted:

I was once told not to go to the Target in the "bad part" of Des Moines. As if such a place exists

One time I followed Google maps through the South side and the three kids in my car wouldn't shut up about how scary it was

I don't think they realize I come from the "bad part" of my hometown which is probably more dangerous than the bad part of Des Moines by virtue of its proximity to NYC

Unamuno
May 31, 2003
Cry me a fuckin' river, Fauntleroy.

GrandmaParty posted:

Vegas is amazing, even if you don't like gambling or prostitution.

1) The food scene is ridiculous. There are some amazing restaurants to be had. Places like Cirque and Guy Savoy for you high end boys and places like Lotus of Siam for people who enjoy holes in the wall. Although Lotus is nice now, which makes it less fun.

Some recs: Bazaar Meat at the SLS, Bacchanal for the sheer ridiculousness of it, Lotus of Siam or Le Thai or Lamaii for Thai (seriously some of the best I've had and I've been to Thailand).

2) Kiss minigolf at the RIO is ridiculously fun and stupid.

3) You can carry booze with you everywhere so long as it's not in a glass container. I carried around a suitcase of tallboys with me on one trip.

4) The people watching scene is unmatched. You're going to see some poo poo.

5) The shows are ridiculous. Strongly recommend Absinthe.

6) If you do decide to gamble, do it downtown. Definitely make some time to go downtown. It's completely different than the strip.

7) Chandelier Bar at the cosmo for drinks.

poo poo, I neglect this thread for two days and I miss the only two topics I can contribute to.

Quoting GrandmaParty because I agree with his post the most out of all the Vegas tourist takes.

gently caress eating on the strip as a general rule, but Bacchanal (Caesars) is prob the best buffet, followed by Wicked Spoon (Cosmo). It's at most a $50 lyft round trip from the strip to pretty much any restaurant in the valley, and you'll easily make that up if you go to the right spots.

gently caress drinking on the strip as a general rule, unless you're gambling and getting them for free (by which I mean $1, don't not tip).

Absinthe is great, worth it to splurge for the VIP seats if you like being inch away from the acrobats and being the target of roast comedy.

Prostitution is not legal in Clark County. While there are obviously plenty of sex workers around, the black market means that you're just as likely to get scammed or robbed as you are laid.

If you're going to purchase marijuana at a dispensary, do some research and try to buy from one of the dispensaries that is not currently wasting its money on hopeless litigation against the state (and passing the anti-savings along to the customers).

Edit: yes, also, come downtown...it's where the courts and the lawyers are!

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Unamuno posted:

gently caress drinking on the strip as a general rule, unless you're gambling and getting them for free (by which I mean $1, don't not tip).

uh drinking a hilariously oversized frozen drink walking around the strip is perhaps the best thing to do in vegas

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Hé schat, vergeef me alsjeblief

ook im massief :wink:

I don't care how fat you are though.

nm posted:

Yeah, you're western swedish.

Vox Nihili posted:

Arctic Dutch.

That does it. When you get to the cabin, I'm force feeding you smalahove.


Unamuno posted:

poo poo, I neglect this thread for two days and I miss the only two topics I can contribute to.

I love how getting a chance to talk about the US is bringing you people out of the woodwork to yell about buffets and drink. Guess it's not just us norwegians that do that.

I am by no means complaining though, it's actually loving great to get you people's perspective on what's actually cool to do in the US. It's basically the ultimate prep for travel, getting tips from locals has led to some of the best experiences of my life abroad.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Vox Nihili posted:

The idea of choosing to visit Baltimore in particular out of the entire United States is rocking me to the core. Even as the fifth, seventh, or twentieth stop on a long trip. Why not stop by Phoenix while you're at it? Maybe Cleveland, too?

It’s this. It’s not that Baltimore is particularly dangerous, or that it doesn’t have any good restaurants or anything. It’s that... you’re flying overseas and BALTIMORE is an intentional destination?

Unamuno
May 31, 2003
Cry me a fuckin' river, Fauntleroy.

evilweasel posted:

uh drinking a hilariously oversized frozen drink walking around the strip is perhaps the best thing to do in vegas
If you want to pay for it, sure. You can get the same oversized novelty drinks for cheaper (and see even more/crazier eccentrics) downtown, but you do you, playboy.

Nice piece of fish posted:

I love how getting a chance to talk about the US is bringing you people out of the woodwork to yell about buffets and drink. Guess it's not just us norwegians that do that.

I am by no means complaining though, it's actually loving great to get you people's perspective on what's actually cool to do in the US. It's basically the ultimate prep for travel, getting tips from locals has led to some of the best experiences of my life abroad.

If my local perspective keeps just one of you from getting beaten and robbed by a pimp, it'll all be worthwhile.

Hoshi
Jan 20, 2013

:wrongcity:

Kalman posted:

It’s this. It’s not that Baltimore is particularly dangerous, or that it doesn’t have any good restaurants or anything. It’s that... you’re flying overseas and BALTIMORE is an intentional destination?

Yeah that's understandable, tho I think there are specific kinds of artists that get a pass if my cousin is to be believed

Alaemon
Jan 4, 2009

Proctors are guardians of the sanctity and integrity of legal education, therefore they are responsible for the nourishment of the soul.

Look Sir Droids posted:

Imagine wanting to go to Baltimore because of The Wire.

No dumber than going to law school because of Law & Order. /shiftyeyes

TheWordOfTheDayIs
Nov 9, 2009

Blessed with an unmatched sense of direction

ActusRhesus posted:

I am unfamiliar with this term. What’s it mean?

Also I can’t post in D&D without getting probated. So I stick to this, video games, navy poo poo, and legal questions.

Just chiming in to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets in trouble every time I post in D&D

Roger_Mudd
Jul 18, 2003

Buglord
Regarding Vegas:

I don't drink;
I don't gamble;
I don't engage in prostitution (either side); and
I don't enjoy "shows."

In short: I'm like a religious fundamentalist without any religion. Bah humbug!

Mini-golf sounds awesome though.

Eminent Domain
Sep 23, 2007



The best advice of your life besides "don't go to law school" is "don't post in D&D".

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

gvibes posted:

I measured the depth of the lake at MY MICHIGAN LAKE HOUSE and it's still only 20 inches deep 75 feet from shore (yes I know kids can still drown in that shallow of water).

I basically keep my 3 yo kid in a life jacket whenever we are by the water.

Yeah I'm gonna stick the puddle jumper on him for the duration of the trip. Also bringing both my wife + my mom because even when they're fighting that means I can close my eyes for a nap without worrying since one of those two will be on the lookout

It's one of those tiny deep lakes. end of the short dock is 5' deep, not much further it's 30 feet deep and elsewhere it hits 80 feet. It's only a 200 acre lake, too. I suck at fishing it but will try anyways

The one annoying thing is since it's only 300 miles away I rarely go anywhere else in the midwest because it's so much harder to get anywhere cool (ranked in order: isle Royale, boundary Waters, apostle islands, pictured rocks). Even devil's lake is like 4 hrs although being next to the crane foundation is cool



To all euros: ignore American food, go see our sweet national parks instead. Black hills/Badlands area, Rockies, Utah's crazy poo poo, grand Canyon, Yosemite, Yellowstone, all of it is awesome and a lot of it is very close to Vegas if you're flying there



Re: bad neighborhoods, a few years back a Canadian was asking if he should move to east St Louis and live in a cheap place figuring it couldn't be that rough, that was a fun thread

mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jul 8, 2019

Unamuno
May 31, 2003
Cry me a fuckin' river, Fauntleroy.

mastershakeman posted:

To all euros: ignore American food, go see our sweet national parks instead. Black hills/Badlands area, Rockies, Utah's crazy poo poo, grand Canyon, Yosemite, Yellowstone, all of it is awesome and a lot of it is very close to Vegas if you're flying there

Of these, only the Grand Canyon, Utah's crazy poo poo (Bryce & Zion), and maybe Yosemite are reasonable drives from Vegas. Death Valley is also a reasonable drive from Vegas.

If you plan on camping in Utah, avoid the national parks (especially if you have dogs) unless you enjoy waiting a dozen hours to camp within a few feet of several dozen other outdoorsy dipshits. Instead, hit up the Dixie National Forest, where there is generally no wait for spots, lots of room, and no rangers telling you and your dogs to gtfo.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Fun fact, Norweigians are basically just socialist rich Americans.
Of all the countries I've been to, Norweigians and Aussies were there most American non-American I know. The Aussies were even more racist than the Yanks.

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

Roger_Mudd posted:

Regarding Vegas:

I don't drink;
I don't gamble;
I don't engage in prostitution (either side); and
I don't enjoy "shows."

In short: I'm like a religious fundamentalist without any religion. Bah humbug!

Mini-golf sounds awesome though.

There’s the Pinball Hall of Fame. It’s a fun way to blow a bunch of quarters.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

nm posted:

The Aussies were even more racist than the Yanks.
man

I used to be in a WoW guild with a couple dozen Australians because I'm extremely cool and awesome and some of them were so racist I genuinely couldn't even figure out who they were being racist against

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

Soothing Vapors posted:

man

I used to be in a WoW guild with a couple dozen Australians because I'm extremely cool and awesome and some of them were so racist I genuinely couldn't even figure out who they were being racist against

Just assume everyone, starting with Aboriginal Australians, Indians, and Chinese in that order.

If anyone is interested I can do a post somewhat explaining racism in Australia without minimising or justifying it, but I have no idea if that would be of interest. The tl;dr is some places and people suck worse than others, same as anywhere really.

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Soothing Vapors posted:

I used to be in a WoW guild with a couple dozen Australians

Roger_Mudd posted:

I don't drink;
I don't gamble;
I don't engage in prostitution (either side); and
I don't enjoy "shows."

The law thread isn't sending its best, folks.

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