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e: new page I should quote youGoon Danton posted:Hell yeah, this is the stuff to focus on. Going outside can be really fun, even when it's hard to do. lol i just read about danton's execution today so your name, avatar, and title made me laugh goon danton. i just wanted to let you know:)
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Jul 8, 2019 19:23
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PsychedelicWarlord posted:I hate to assign reading in the mental health thread but I've seen a similar take on how capitalism makes people miserable and how socialism aims to change that to ordinary unhappiness. thanks dude, it honestly makes me feel better even having my feelings acknowledged by other goons via post, since I have nobody else to talk to. I wish I did, but my job has turned out to be a job where I can spend a nine hour day without physically interacting with another person at all super easily. in fact, it’s the norm, it is actively weird for me to communicate with my coworkers in person beyond hallway passing pleasantries. five years ago I was a junkie with no degrees or prospects but I had tons of friends and an incredibly attractive, fun girlfriend and now I am sober with money but nothing else. it’s sort of amazing how when one part of life improves, everything else goes to poo poo to compensate, as if there is some natural law that dictates that, on the whole, I have to be a miserable husk of a person somewhere between “apathetic” and “actively wishes he was dead”, and I can’t do anything about that how does your nighttime anxiety manifest itself? same kinda symptoms? I’ve tried taking kaopectate and melatonin but I’m getting to the point where I’m starting to miss my benzos, I’ve had that habit to varying degrees and on high doses life is a pleasant well rested blur which is pretty dope. are there any non-powerful pharmaceuticals for sleeping through the whole night anyone can think of? anyway thanks comrade goons, like I said, just having someone respond to my posts is pathetically gratifying at the moment
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Jul 8, 2019 19:30
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Eat This Glob posted:e: new page I should quote you Thanks! I took the avatar from this, which has a few more good av candidates if I feel like switching it up.
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Jul 8, 2019 19:32
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Goon Danton posted:Thanks! I took the avatar from this, which has a few more good av candidates if I feel like switching it up. rules. I love hark a vagrant but havent read beaton's stuff regularly for years. thanks for the reminder!
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Jul 8, 2019 19:44
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Frog Act posted:thanks dude, it honestly makes me feel better even having my feelings acknowledged by other goons via post, since I have nobody else to talk to. I wish I did, but my job has turned out to be a job where I can spend a nine hour day without physically interacting with another person at all super easily. in fact, it’s the norm, it is actively weird for me to communicate with my coworkers in person beyond hallway passing pleasantries. five years ago I was a junkie with no degrees or prospects but I had tons of friends and an incredibly attractive, fun girlfriend and now I am sober with money but nothing else. it’s sort of amazing how when one part of life improves, everything else goes to poo poo to compensate, as if there is some natural law that dictates that, on the whole, I have to be a miserable husk of a person somewhere between “apathetic” and “actively wishes he was dead”, and I can’t do anything about that it's pretty situational. i had a rough breakup with my fiance almost two months ago and some nights i can't sleep because i find it hard to grapple with how things possibly got to where they are right now, if that makes sense. I just lie awake in a sort of manic state and wish desperately for someone to talk to. But of course, it's hard to find people to talk to at 3am. I've been running in the late afternoon/evening to tire myself out, which helps some. Getting sober is an amazing feat and congratulations to you on that!
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Jul 8, 2019 19:49
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Goon Danton posted:Hell yeah, this is the stuff to focus on. Going outside can be really fun, even when it's hard to do. yeah i mean i do more stuff but i still feel bad for not doing enough and also talking to people is still hard but i'm trying i met some cool people lately, i don't feel acquainted enough yet to build a good rapport but i guess it takes time
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Jul 8, 2019 20:36
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Frog Act posted:in many ways I think being hateful and filled with bitter recriminations and spite is a reasonable reaction to living under capitalism. it’s misdirected in an abstract sense because every day assholes or ugly peoples or whatever obviously aren’t the problem and are just like anyone else but this tremendous tension builds up and just has to go somewhere, at least for me. life for most people is just tons of little indignities inflicted on them financially, emotionally, physically, whatever, and it gives every little interaction in life an undercurrent of hate and dissatisfaction. being an alienated weirdo seems to exacerbate these tendencies, like I’m also hateful and argumentative but I sometimes wonder if that’s exclusively because those traits are among my many character flaws or if the hateful antagonism would go away around decent socialists. I saw you mention being dismissive of others opinions but like, I do feel it bears mentioning that some opinions are worth dismissing, and many people are ignorant jerks who deserve to be argued with Just wanted to say that I feel all of this, and like you, I feel so much better knowing that I'm not alone in my thoughts and feelings. The little indignities and the constant little pokes of anger, resentment, fear, and anxiety are all part of the design. Keep the little people just angry and scared enough to fight each other, but not so angry that they'll start burning down banks and guillotining their landlords. If a critical mass of people had enough spare energy to really, truly understand how badly they're getting hosed by capital, all of this poo poo would burn to the ground inside of a month. I'm too old and not nearly optimistic enough to think that's going to happen in my lifetime, but I do see a lot of righteous, pissed off kids these days and that gives me a tiny bit of hope and an earnest desire to lend them a hand whenever I can. mekyabetsu has issued a correction as of 00:31 on Jul 9, 2019 |
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Jul 9, 2019 00:29
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anyone else here has social anxiety/phobia i feel like anything i do or say is not worth anyone's time, is that what you feel as well
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Jul 9, 2019 12:05
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lol it's called SAD in English, are you people for real
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Jul 9, 2019 12:10
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Kurtofan posted:lol it's called SAD in English, are you people for real 
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Jul 9, 2019 12:11
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Im SAD
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Jul 9, 2019 12:13
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Kurtofan posted:Im SAD 
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Jul 9, 2019 12:17
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Kurtofan posted:lol it's called SAD in English, are you people for real We have more  than you can handle buddy! A quick glance at Wikipedia gives Social Anxiety Disorder, Seasonal Affective Disorder, Separation Anxiety Disorder, and Schizoaffective Disorder.
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Jul 9, 2019 12:55
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Goon Danton posted:We have more first one i think
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Jul 9, 2019 13:01
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Oh, yeah, I figured that's what you meant, I'm just saying we like using SAD as a short version of various mental troubles
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Jul 9, 2019 13:40
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Kurtofan posted:anyone else here has social anxiety/phobia all the time. sometimes I apologize after speaking because I can't imagine having said anything of value
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Jul 9, 2019 13:53
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if thinking nobody wants to hear what you have to say because it’s valueless and irritating is social anxiety, than I definitely have it. last week I found myself apologizing for apologizing for asking clarifying questions and realized it must be really annoying. just in general I am a recluse with nothing to contribute to anything and that kinda influences when and to whom I speak that being said I think the feelings we are discussing here sound more consistent with being depressed, for me social anxiety specifically is always an impending sense that something was going to go wrong / everyone already hates me, not that they’ve already gone wrong and they hate me, though usually it isn’t a particularly bright line
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Jul 9, 2019 14:02
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Kurtofan posted:anyone else here has social anxiety/phobia i don't think these things necessarily go together, i am a bit of a narcissist, and rather imagine that i am debasing myself speaking to this random person (slightly overstated to make the case), but i still struggle badly to buy a stamp or attend a social event. just to note that the cause-and-effect implied by your post does not necessarily hold. we could be a bit broken for different reasons entirely, but if you started out similar to me the worthlessness might just be bad rationalization. either way, i don't know anything for sure except that this is a legitimate problem that you'd (we'd) do well to get some help on.
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Jul 9, 2019 14:32
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Goon Danton posted:We have more im a winner i got all of the sads
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Jul 9, 2019 15:06
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i don't think these things necessarily go together, i am a bit of a narcissist, and rather imagine that i am debasing myself speaking to this random person (slightly overstated to make the case), but i still struggle badly to buy a stamp or attend a social event. I mean its what my doctors told me (the social anxiety thing), maybe they're wrong. I'm just trying to explain why I behave in a way where i avoid people Maybe I am narcissistic too, nobody ever told me so tho
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Jul 9, 2019 15:09
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I dont want to self diagnose honestly, im kind of afraid to fall in that rabbit hole Being narcissistic seems like a scary idea for me, id rather be someone who avoids talking to people because of fear rather than someone who avoids talking to people because of feeling these people are a loving waste of time.
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Jul 9, 2019 15:21
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Sometimes i feel that way tho, i think there's no point in talking to someone because it's not going to go anywhere worth both our times. Or maybe its just another rationalisation.
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Jul 9, 2019 15:24
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I know when I want to talk to someone i tell myself things like : they're busy, ill bother them, i have nothing to say worth saying, i am not worth the time, itll suck and ill be shot down. When someone talks to me, its weird, i dont really feel like talking then, not sure why. Like i dont really know what to say. Maybe its surprise, uncomfortableness
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Jul 9, 2019 15:27
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I'm sorry if i expressed negative comments about narcissisitc people, we all have our problems and yours are not lower than mine... I'm just scared at the idea I/my doctors got it wrong after several consults these last few years. Starting back from zero is quite dreadful
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Jul 9, 2019 15:30
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Right now i'm in between doctors, i should see a new one in a few months
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Jul 9, 2019 15:32
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That doesn't sound like narcissism. That sounds like social anxiety. Also FYI narcissism is a really specific thing psychologically (narcissistic personality disorder), and wanting to avoid people and getting self conscious are basically the opposite of it. It's literally illegal for a shrink to say it, but Trump is a really textbook case of npd if you're curious what it looks like.
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Jul 9, 2019 15:32
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Kurtofan posted:I mean its what my doctors told me (the social anxiety thing), maybe they're wrong. I'm just trying to explain why I behave in a way where i avoid people sorry, phrasing myself badly i confused matters: obvisouly we are not fundamentally the same; we are at minimum at opposite ends of the same thing, i just tried to express that social anxiety is prevalent in a lot of very different people. the idea being that it'd be a mistake tying issues together too quick. sorry if i was very unhelpful, this is a very tricky area and i don't even at the best of times express myself well.
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Jul 9, 2019 15:58
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welp had my first panic attack since college and now I'm miserable and my whole body is sore
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Jul 9, 2019 16:00
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:welp had my first panic attack since college and now I'm miserable and my whole body is sore take the day off, curl up in a blanket with hot cocoa and watch Princess Bride 
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Jul 9, 2019 16:13
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yeah I did that yesterday and took a five hour nap. can't do it twice in a row.
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Jul 9, 2019 16:17
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says which law? this is doc's orders
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Jul 9, 2019 16:24
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Naps are great. I love them.
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Jul 9, 2019 16:27
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when I was unemployed I napped every day and it was awesome. god I miss naps. sometimes I think about going full Costanza and having a quick snooze under my desk, but only for a second
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Jul 9, 2019 16:31
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haha welp
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Jul 9, 2019 16:46
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Goon Danton posted:That doesn't sound like narcissism. That sounds like social anxiety. Ah thanks. Cybernetic Vermin posted:sorry, phrasing myself badly i confused matters: obvisouly we are not fundamentally the same; we are at minimum at opposite ends of the same thing, i just tried to express that social anxiety is prevalent in a lot of very different people. the idea being that it'd be a mistake tying issues together too quick. No worries, I'm not the best one to express myself in these issues either.
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Jul 9, 2019 16:57
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I always thought my body was resilient to antidepressant withdrawals, hell I got off of Paxil with pretty much no side effects. Effexor, it seems, is actively trying to murder me, even with me tapering it off (albeit a little aggressively). I've been on the drat thing for just 7 days.
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Jul 9, 2019 17:49
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Effexor withdrawal is notorious. Like it wasn't as bad as going off Klonopin cold turkey, but it still loving sucks way more than it has any right to.
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Jul 9, 2019 17:52
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My social anxiety is one of the reasons why getting counselling frightens me. Counsellors are strangers, I have anxiety about getting my hair cut by a stranger, let alone telling one all my personal business. "But you're here telling us your personal business". Yes, I don't know what that's about either. Something about finding typing much easier than speaking. My anxiety makes actually talking physically seem very hard. Other people I know seem not to have this problem. Plus my parents (especially my dad) are getting to that age when they're going deaf to varying degrees, so I will often have to repeat everything I say anyway, which doesn't much help.
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Jul 9, 2019 18:06
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Jollity Farm posted:My social anxiety is one of the reasons why getting counselling frightens me. Counsellors are strangers, I have anxiety about getting my hair cut by a stranger, let alone telling one all my personal business. Have you considered an online counseling service? I think Better help does online chat sessions.
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Jul 9, 2019 18:10
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I should consider it. I don't know what the UK has, or the NHS, but I should look it up.
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Jul 9, 2019 18:16
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