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Bushiz posted:the only major gripe with pizzagate anyone on this forum had was that it was limited to the democrats and that it was happening in a restaurant basement. the problem with pizzagate was that it needed a bunch of secret code words about satanism, adrenochrome, and organ harvesting. turns out all you need is an upper class and earthly delights. occam’s razor or something
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Theris posted:So it seems increasingly likely that qanon/pizzagate were false flags* to prime the public into disbelieving the more incredible aspects of this, right? it's called disinformation and it does seem plausible!
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HORROR OF GEESE posted:I've always called that disinformation. the flames of 9/11 truthers being stoked by the Bush administration is, I don't know, a disinformation campaign as a diversionary tactic? what stands out to me though is the concept of a "useful idiot". take pizzahate as an example: I doubt that it was started or even signal boosted by intelligence agencies, but a powerful trafficking-ring would see a red herring for the populace—it's so absurd that it makes the real possibility of an Epstein seem absurd by association. so the useful idiots keep being useful. reminder that michael flynn's son and mike cernovich were both among the people fanning the flames of pizzagate
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World War Mammories posted:the problem with pizzagate was that it needed a bunch of secret code words about satanism, adrenochrome, and organ harvesting. turns out all you need is an upper class and earthly delights. occam’s razor or something also it's way smarter to do this poo poo off shore than in the basement of a random D.C. pizza joint. Anyone checked in on how the pizzagaters are responding to all this?
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TrixRabbi posted:also it's way smarter to do this poo poo off shore than in the basement of a random D.C. pizza joint. Claiming various levels of vague and reaching "I told you so, see" and "the REAL story is yet to come, just watch!"
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an actual dog posted:🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 Probably a good time to consider the merits of "Geoff" as a spelling of his name.
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Bushiz posted:the only major gripe with pizzagate anyone on this forum had was that it was limited to the democrats and that it was happening in a restaurant basement.
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Spergin Morlock posted:reminder that michael flynn's son and mike cernovich were both among the people fanning the flames of pizzagate yeah between this and cernovich "helping" dershowitz on this poo poo makes me think he's somehow tied up in it but that seems crazy because he's basically a nobody but at the same time he's helping dersh and other child rapists in various ways?
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Hodgepodge posted:Probably a good time to consider the merits of "Geoff" as a spelling of his name. he works for disney!! how has he not already changed his name!!
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World War Mammories posted:the problem with pizzagate was that it needed a bunch of secret code words about satanism, adrenochrome, and organ harvesting. turns out all you need is an upper class and earthly delights. occam’s razor or something
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Bushiz posted:the only major gripe with pizzagate anyone on this forum had was that it was limited to the democrats and that it was happening in a restaurant basement. that’s the problem with “omg pizzagate is real” because of this poo poo. Pizzagate wasn’t “some rich and powerful people are pedos” which everyone with a brain already knew it was “Hillary Clinton and every dem ever rapes children in the basement of a pizza parlor” most of which has yet to be proven accurate.
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can you buttchug adrenochrome e: sorry I meant to type that into google
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Jeff "Rey" Epstein. this all runs deeper than you think *darth vader breathing sound*
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bird with big dick posted:who owes so much child support and/or back taxes that it’s more than half of an 85 million dollar lottery ticket? It's not about the actual money, it's about making sure That Bitch (tm) doesn't get a penny of What's Mine. My brother went off the grid to go be a sheep shearer in west Texas getting paid less than minimum wage under the table rather than support his children. But then, he was a vindictive poo poo when we were kids too.
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like the old god cronus devouring his own children, the wealthiest have already demonstrated a willingness to destroy the young and innocent, to leave them traumatized and devoid of hope for a better future, all for the thrill of a little momentary power and material comfort. they do this in so many indirect ways while pursuing their hollow "enrichment" that it can be no surprise when a bunch of them choose to destroy the young in much more violent and vulgar ways imo its high time for the titanomachy bitch 
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The more levelheaded conspiracy researchers and writers during the Bush years noted that for whatever reason, ex-intelligence and former Bush White House aides were entering the 9/11 Truth movement but to back absolute and demonstrably false horseshit like “there were no planes/none of the hijacking victims actually died”, “Russia was behind it”, and of course “jet fuel can’t melt steal beams”. Note the staying power of these myths. Similar things were noted about ex-intelligence and outright white supremacists sneaking their way into the Mind Control and Ritual Abuse communities. The UFOlogical community is laughably bad at handling this, Mirage Men is a killer read/watch on the subject. Basically a good chunk of American conspiracy theories are dreamed up in the government and fulfill the purpose of allowing their believers to believe they’ve found deeper knowledge and broken free of the government’s official story, all while obfuscating whatever truth may be out there.
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you mean conspiracy theories are a product of themselves? endlessly replicating and consuming meaningful dialogue, like a gray goo apocalypse of horseshit enveloping this entire gay earth? sounds about right
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alternate explanation: a lot of people who are dumb as poo poo end up in the intelligence space because the requirements for entry are less "be incredibly competent" like in the movies and are actually more like "be a boring square through college and join the correct frat." then once they are in intelligence, they think they're super smart and competent, like in the movies, and live entirely on their own farts. also the broadly defined "government intelligence" space is at least 100k jobs so if even 3% of people match the above, that's thousands of people who will believe anything. the FBI is almost entirely staffed by Breitbart readers who forward goofy poo poo to their grandkids. these are not super competent people all around
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Best Friends posted:alternate explanation: a lot of people who are dumb as poo poo end up in the intelligence space because the requirements for entry are less "be incredibly competent" like in the movies and are actually more like "be a boring square through college and join the correct frat." then once they are in intelligence, they think they're super smart and competent, like in the movies, and live entirely on their own farts. also the broadly defined "government intelligence" space is at least 100k jobs so if even 3% of people match the above, that's thousands of people who will believe anything. yeah this is why the kgb ran circles around the CIA. our intelligence services have always just been rich kid clubs
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:yeah this is why the kgb ran circles around the CIA. our intelligence services have always just been rich kid clubs otoh you can also break into them by enlisting in the military so you end up with two distinct breeds of dipshits
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I imagine working in intelligence also makes you more "open minded" to the idea that the government faked 911 and turns kids into rich people drugs considering we've done poo poo just as crazy
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you can look at the Yale-CIA connection and decide, holy poo poo there’s a sinister connection of all these figures within government but you can also decide, holy poo poo the CIA is run and staffed by total morons and nepotistic moneyed shitheads.
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The idea that the evil scumbag aristocrats that rule this society are even halfway competent is too optimistic.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's not about the actual money, it's about making sure That Bitch (tm) doesn't get a penny of What's Mine. Let him know that someone whose dedicated the last seven years of his life to keeping his own kid out of foster care called him a piece of poo poo. I'm sure he gets that a lot, though.
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The CIA/NSA absolutely does nefarious poo poo but it is generally all much more mundane than the MKULTRA stuff. And yeah it's morons all the way up. Even MKULTRA was "let's kidnap randoms off the street and dose them with poo poo tons of acid to see if we can control their mind. Oh, that doesn't work. Well, we know more about torture!"
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Dr. Killjoy posted:you can look at the Yale-CIA connection and decide, holy poo poo there’s a sinister connection of all these figures within government but you can also decide, holy poo poo the CIA and staffed by total morons and nepotistic moneyed shitheads. Total evil morons. The CIA must be destroyed for the good of the world.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:yeah this is why the kgb ran circles around the CIA. our intelligence services have always just been rich kid clubs there are moments of seemingly staggeringly complex cia competence (blackbird, azorian, all the space sigint) but they mostly seem long ago (except maybe stuxnet), and seem exclusively on the technology side and rarely on the humint, analysis, or activities side which yeah points to with dumbfuck leadership and unlimited resources a few good ideas will percolate and succeed but many more will end up as central american drone death squad #3482934
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MonsieurChoc posted:Total evil morons. At least if we don't survive as a species, our remnants may eventually be assembled into the ultimate black comedy by a life form with its poo poo together.
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Best Friends posted:alternate explanation: a lot of people who are dumb as poo poo end up in the intelligence space because the requirements for entry are less "be incredibly competent" like in the movies and are actually more like "be a boring square through college and join the correct frat." then once they are in intelligence, they think they're super smart and competent, like in the movies, and live entirely on their own farts. also the broadly defined "government intelligence" space is at least 100k jobs so if even 3% of people match the above, that's thousands of people who will believe anything. never assume malice when incompetence is the more likely explanation but also there's a shitload of malice too
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Breakfast All Day posted:there are moments of seemingly staggeringly complex cia competence (blackbird, azorian, all the space sigint) but they mostly seem long ago (except maybe stuxnet), and seem exclusively on the technology side and rarely on the humint, analysis, or activities side dont forget Blue Doom, Meteor, Coyote Claw, Boxman, etc. just for starters. The CIA has done alot of cool poo poo, that most people have never heard about
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They also made a cyborg cat that was a mobile listening device. It got run over by a taxi immediately after being dropped off at the russian embassy
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Hodgepodge posted:Let him know that someone whose dedicated the last seven years of his life to keeping his own kid out of foster care called him a piece of poo poo. You're not wrong, but He had actually kind of turned his poo poo around and started paying a little bit when his demons caught up with him and he committed suicide. I have complicated feelings about the whole thing - he had a lot of issues as a kid that our parents had no idea how to deal with and some diagnoses were missed and mishandled. He didn't deserve all the problems he had but the people in his life didn't deserve the way he treated them either. Anyway he wasn't a billionaire and he never hosed a kid so it's off topic, sorry.
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AnEdgelord posted:They also made a cyborg cat that was a mobile listening device. "...the russians used a pinto"
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Breakfast All Day posted:which yeah points to with dumbfuck leadership and unlimited resources a few good ideas will percolate and succeed but many more will end up as central american drone death squad #3482934 quote:One hundred idiots make idiotic plans and carry them out. All but one justly fail. The hundredth idiot, whose plan succeeded through pure luck, is immediately convinced he’s a genius.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:You're not wrong, but Still sorry that he committed suicide  Wouldn't be if some of these kid fuckers did, though. Except insofar as that would allow them to escape justice.
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Breakfast All Day posted:"...the russians used a theremin" fixed
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Remember when the CIA accidentally released all their hacking tools onto the internet? lolHodgepodge posted:Wouldn't be if some of these kid fuckers did, though. Except insofar as that would allow them to escape justice. Hopefully only after they name names.
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Hodgepodge posted:Still sorry that he committed suicide it feels like a certainty to me that at least one of them will "commit suicide"
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