July 2019 Current Events: Concerts We Saw. In the Past.

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psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Viva Miriya posted:

Gonna sign up on jdate today! Make this guy hella mad.

I had a CO whose mother was an Indian Muslim and father was an American Jew. He told me their families took it exactly as well as you think they did.

# ? Jul 10, 2019 23:59

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 17:23

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
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Viva Miriya posted:

Gonna sign up on jdate today! Make this guy hella mad.

Jdate: just date her mother

# ? Jul 11, 2019 00:37

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Update:

https://twitter.com/amymcgrathky/status/1149098724678918146?s=21

I�m honestly not sure which dril tweet to go with here

# ? Jul 11, 2019 00:46

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

https://mobile.twitter.com/dril/status/769560450891669504

# ? Jul 11, 2019 00:58

Chichevache: Feb 17, 2010; One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

I just got mail from the democratic national convention. In it, they solicit a donation and include a survey they want responses to. They didn't even pay for the return postage. :effort:

I feel like that sums up how out of touch the DNC is.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 01:57

A Bad Poster: Sep 25, 2006; Seriously, shut the fuck up.

Chichevache posted:

I just got mail from the democratic national convention. In it, they solicit a donation and include a survey they want responses to. They didn't even pay for the return postage.

I feel like that sums up how out of touch the DNC is.

I want this right next to that Trump survey from a couple pages ago. It's the best contrast between the DNC and RNC I've ever seen.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 02:05

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

godDAMN

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1148645251768299520

# ? Jul 11, 2019 02:18

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

shame on an IGA posted:

godDAMN

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1148645251768299520

# ? Jul 11, 2019 02:32

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

shame on an IGA posted:

godDAMN

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1148645251768299520

I love how Subway is their go-to brand to gently caress with like the scrapped 9/11 ads.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 02:34

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

https://twitter.com/NYTimesAtWar/status/1149129702088597504

quote:

DOHA, Qatar � Taliban and Afghan representatives, including some government officials, agreed on Tuesday to a basic road map for negotiating the country�s political future, a major step that could help propel peace efforts to end the long war, now in its 18th year.

In a joint declaration after two days of unprecedented and often emotional discussions in the Qatari capital, Doha, the two sides emphasized a need to work for reducing �civilian casualties to zero� and assuring women their fundamental rights in �political, social, economic, educational, cultural affairs.�

The declaration is not binding, and at best is a starting point for when the two sides meet later for negotiations that could lead to fixed terms.

But even if the declaration might not immediately de-escalate the violence in Afghanistan, it does help push forward a peace process between American diplomats and the Taliban that has been making strides in negotiations, but which has been struggling to overcome the Taliban�s refusal to meet with Afghan government officials.

The Taliban have said direct negotiations with other Afghans would start only after the United States announces a timeline for the withdrawal of its troops from Afghanistan.

American negotiators are in the middle of the seventh round of talks with the Taliban over the withdrawal of troops in return for a commitment from the insurgents that Afghan soil would not again be used to launch terrorist attacks against the United States and its allies. Those talks, also held in Doha, paused for the two days of the �intra-Afghan dialogue,� and are expected to resume on Tuesday with the hopes of finalizing an agreement.

In a sign that American officials saw progress on the Afghan-Taliban discussions as crucial to moving all the pieces of a comprehensive peace deal forward, Zalmay Khalilzad, the American special envoy leading the negotiations with the Taliban, was a regular presence on the margins of the intra-Afghan discussions. He attended both the opening and closing sessions and appeared to chat with participants during some of the breaks.

�There was a very friendly atmosphere and sincere atmosphere and everyone shared their views,� said Sher Mohammad Abas Stanekzai, the most senior member of the Taliban delegation and their chief negotiator. �When we finalize our negotiations with the Americans and get a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops, then we will enter direct negotiations with the Afghan side for the internal matters of our country.�

Nader Nadery, the head of the Afghan government civil service commission and one of the participants, said the conference had provided an important platform for sharing grievances.

�I think the two days of discussions has helped our realization of who the Taliban are, what they want, and they know who we are and what we want,� he said.

The war has grown particularly violent in recent years, with the death toll rising of Afghan forces, Taliban militants and the civilians stuck in between. Just as the delegates filed in for first morning of discussions, a Taliban bombing on an intelligence facility left 14 people dead and about 170 people wounded. Most of the wounded were civilians, who included schoolchildren.

The joint Afghan-Taliban declaration calls for assuring security for public institutions like schools, hospitals and residential areas. The participants �committed to respect and protect the dignity of people, their life and property and to minimize the civilian casualties to zero,� the declaration read.

The statement also called for trust-building measures, like the �unconditional release of elderly, disabled and ill inmates,� ahead of the direct negotiations.

�This will help us get to direct intra-Afghan negotiations, but we need to know that 18 years of war cannot be resolved in two days,� said Anarkali Honaryar, an Afghan senator and part of the delegation from Kabul. �There were differences of opinion, but both sides displayed great patience in how they shared those opinions. That�s a big thing.�

Germany and Qatar, the co-hosts of the event, welcomed the declaration, with officials from both countries appearing pleased with how the discussions had turned out. Qatar had tried in April to host the event, but the effort collapsed at the last minute after disagreements over a list of participants.

�We hope that this event will mark the beginning of a meaningful process which will lead to a comprehensive and sustainable peace for Afghanistan,� the organizers said in a joint statement.

The two days of dialogue represented the first time the Taliban had engaged in substantial debate on issues, breaking with the former practice of mostly reading prepared statements.

Many of the sessions were tense and emotional. Several of the participants from the Afghan delegation had lost family members to suicide bombings and Taliban attacks. On the insurgents� side, many had spent years in detention.

While the delegation from Kabul challenged the Taliban on their attacks resulting in civilian casualties, the insurgents pushed back by highlighting civilian harm caused by operations of Afghan and American forces.

One of the most heated exchanges was over who gets to interpret Islam. When the discussion turned to basic rights like women�s education and freedom of press, the Taliban couched their support with the caveat that those rights must be granted within the restrictions of Islam. Skeptics see that stance as allowing them future leverage to restrict freedoms.

One of the Taliban speakers argued that those restrictions would not be an issue for most Afghans, as the modern values propagated by a few urbanites are a product of the West.

The debate carried over to a lunch table where Ershad Ahmadi, a former deputy foreign minister, engaged with the Taliban speaker.

�The only way out of this is if you accept the diversity of this country � that I respect your way, and you respect how I live my life,� Mr. Ahmadi said he told the Taliban official.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 02:37

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

Goddamnit if Trump gets to claim Afghan peace as a W for himself.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 03:02

Stravag: Jun 7, 2009

I feel like thats good progress but am worried by the fact that they will only really negotiate once the us announces a troop withdrawal timeline. Gives the taliban easy leverage in the negotiations.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 03:10

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Donnie will gently caress it up when he insists that he needs to negotiate with the Taliban directly.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 03:16

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Stravag posted:

I feel like thats good progress but am worried by the fact that they will only really negotiate once the us announces a troop withdrawal timeline. Gives the taliban easy leverage in the negotiations.

Well, yeah, I wonder where they learned that.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 03:29

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

Donnie will gently caress it up when he insists that he needs to negotiate with the Taliban directly.

�Now a lot of people are talking about this, but Gulbuddin Hekmatyar- great man, loves his country. And we met in Peshawar, and- and he said, �Mr. Trump, if my forces were as big as your inauguration crowd, wallahi we would have brought the light of Islam to all the world�s shores on lapping waves of blood.� And we laughed together because we both know there�s nothing bigger. Islam- not a lot of people know this but it�s the religion of peace. And Mullah Homer- what a guy, I tell you!�

# ? Jul 11, 2019 03:40

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

pantslesswithwolves posted:

�Now a lot of people are talking about this, but Gulbuddin Hekmatyar- great man, loves his country. And we met in Peshawar, and- and he said, �Mr. Trump, if my forces were as big as your inauguration crowd, wallahi we would have brought the light of Islam to all the world�s shores on lapping waves of blood.� And we laughed together because we both know there�s nothing bigger. Islam- not a lot of people know this but it�s the religion of peace. And Mullah Homer- what a guy, I tell you!�

Eery.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 03:56

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

The war in Afghanistan has been going on way longer than 18 years. It's way closer to 25 or 30 assuming you consider the few years following Soviet withdrawal as peace.

Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jul 11, 2019

# ? Jul 11, 2019 04:27

Knives Amilli: Sep 26, 2014

hobbesmaster posted:

Yeah uh, I was wrong here actually:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/09/amy-mcgrath-seeks-makeover-pro-trump-democrat/1680960001/

Attacking McConnell from the right, that'll go well.

shes a loving idiot.

Trump has already come out against her. Even if she could win Trump over, McConnell is infinitely more useful to him than she is. He and his constituents have no reason to support her.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 05:17

McNally: Sep 13, 2007; Ask me about Proposition 305

Do you like muskets?

McNally posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/07/08/twins-ivf-birth-lawsuit/

A couple in New York is suing a fertility clinic over the results of their in vitro fertilization.

The clinic reported to the couple that they'd successfully implanted one male and one female embryo. Yay!

A subsequent ultrasound revealed that the wife was carrying two boys. Well, maybe the ultrasound was wrong. It happens sometimes.

After delivery the Asian couple found themselves holding two non-Asian boys.

A DNA test revealed that the boys are not related to either parent.

The DNA test also revealed that the boys are not related to each other.

The couple had to relinquish custody of the boys.

I wish this couple all the best as they become the new owners of a fertility clinic.

You guys remember the fertility clinic that stuck two boys that weren't related to each other into a woman of a different ethnicity?

Looks like they aren't the only embryos they implanted in the wrong mom.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...lawsuit-claims/

quote:

An attorney for CHA Fertility did not return a request for comment on Wednesday. The clinic has not returned several requests made this week.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 05:50

Best Friends: Nov 4, 2011

The DNC is too busy recruiting every cop, troop, and CIA officer who accidentally voted Dem once to bother checking if these star recruits have any actual beliefs or, failing that, political talent.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 05:53

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Best Friends posted:

The DNC is too busy recruiting every cop, troop, and CIA officer who accidentally voted Dem once to bother checking if these star recruits have any actual beliefs or, failing that, political talent.

lol that kentucky doesn't have an AOC candidate literally anywhere

I mean maybe kentucky has a democratic machine even stronger than new york's but incapable of winning general elections on any consistent basis.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 06:07

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006; Can't post for 5 days!

FAUXTON posted:

lol that kentucky doesn't have an AOC candidate literally anywhere

I mean maybe kentucky has a democratic machine even stronger than new york's but incapable of winning general elections on any consistent basis.

The Democrats have permanently lost the south barring long term demographic change (like GA and TX might be in play this generation) or some fundamental political realignment. Southern whites vote Republican in such numbers today compared to 20-30 years ago that states with smaller minority populations aren't going anywhere any time soon.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 06:16

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

The Democrats have permanently lost the south barring long term demographic change (like GA and TX might be in play this generation) or some fundamental political realignment. Southern whites vote Republican in such numbers today compared to 20-30 years ago that states with smaller minority populations aren't going anywhere any time soon.

that turnout thing is practically cultural at this point too - the right wing doesn't even need any real reason to vote whereas almost everyone else (everyone not actively being suppressed by the gop) will search high and low for any whiff of a reason not to.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 06:47

Best Friends: Nov 4, 2011

I'm not saying anyone else could beat McConnell, but flip flopping on Kavenaugh 3 times in 1 day for no reason is next level political incompetence.

Someday the Republican abandonment of 70% of their voters will lead to them losing rural elections. It will happen suddenly and unexpectedly. But it's probably not happening soon, and it's definitely not happening with that candidate.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 07:21

A Bad Poster: Sep 25, 2006; Seriously, shut the fuck up.

It's going to happen once the people growing and picking the food can't afford to eat any of the food they're cultivating.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 07:23

ded: Oct 27, 2005; Kooler than Jesus

They will do what they have been doing, blame democrats for putting them in that position. If only they would come to the table and negotiate!

# ? Jul 11, 2019 07:58

piL: Sep 20, 2007; (__|\\\\); Taco Defender

McGrath's problem will be that she will be unable to appease her constituents without opposing the national party and vice versa. McConnell's ripe for a dethroning and polls lower than Trump. But if the KY senate race 2020 is McGrath vs Trump and not McGrath vs McConnell, there doesn't seem to be much of a point.

For a similar tension between national party lines and constituent beliefs, see anti-abortion democrats running for house seats in states that poll heavily anti-abortion. Republicans don't have to spend money smearing their opponents, democrats will do it for them.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 10:24

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006; Can't post for 5 days!

piL posted:

For a similar tension between national party lines and constituent beliefs, see anti-abortion democrats running for house seats in states that poll heavily anti-abortion. Republicans don't have to spend money smearing their opponents, democrats will do it for them.

Anti-choice. Everyone is anti-abortion except for a handful of nihilists.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 10:29

Stultus Maximus: Dec 21, 2009; USPOL May

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Anti-choice. Everyone is anti-abortion except for a handful of nihilists.

Anti-abortion rights. Everyone is pro-choice except for a handful of hard determinists.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 10:53

colachute: Mar 15, 2015

i think i figured out a core problem with political discourse

people are way too pedantic

# ? Jul 11, 2019 11:39

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/NYTimesAtWar/status/1149129702088597504

Wow the ballroom at the Kabul Mariott is nicer than I expected

# ? Jul 11, 2019 12:02

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

colachute posted:

i think i figured out a core problem with political discourse

people are way too pedantic

I had a couple of Facebook acquaintances (one an extreme leftist and one who's just progressive) get into an online shouting match over whether Kamala Harris is really black because her family is from Jamaica and India. It then spawned a sub argument over whether Indian people qualify as Asian.

psydude fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Jul 11, 2019

# ? Jul 11, 2019 12:06

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Stolen from D&D, because if I want to bleach my brain you assholes have to suffer as well.

Jealous Cow posted:

https://twitter.com/kaoconnor/status/1148734010023194624

# ? Jul 11, 2019 12:30

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...ingawful.com%2F

# ? Jul 11, 2019 12:59

Chichevache: Feb 17, 2010; One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...ingawful.com%2F

That may be the most unhinged I've ever seen him. He's going full Musolini.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 13:07

colachute: Mar 15, 2015

Hot Karl Marx posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...ingawful.com%2F

poo poo like this makes me think he's an elaborate troll but i know that he's just being himself

# ? Jul 11, 2019 13:12

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

https://twitter.com/thetomzone/stat...ingawful.com%2F

# ? Jul 11, 2019 13:27

colachute: Mar 15, 2015

this might be the most capitalism headline i've ever seen in my life

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1149260810222485504

# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:05

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Still waiting on that liberal media I keep hearing about

# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:21

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 17:23

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

colachute posted:

this might be the most capitalism headline i've ever seen in my life

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1149260810222485504

I�ve already declared for Immortan Joe and got my own v8.

# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:26

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