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gently caress all that, XM25 is where it's at. I know someone who got saddled with one in Afghanistan. Never fired it because the prototype grenades cost like $9k apiece and they would have had to get permission from an O-6 or higher, which isn't exactly great when you're in a firefight.
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HiroProtagonist posted:Breaching rounds don't work that way, they're little metal fletchette type splinters in a mini sabot to maximize penetration of the (metal) and minimize spalling and ricochets after they straight up blast a hole in door hinges. They're designed to evaporate, not penetrate. If you wanted to murder anyone within 50m or more sure though Real breaching rounds would have been loving cool, also so would 203 rounds which weren't flares or star clusters, a working intercom set for my truck, trucks which were designed with belly armor from the beginning, also I guess not signing up to fight in others' wars maybe too. Having a shotgun turned out to be nice for days when a patrol went out for Liberty or Victory, I'd leave my M4+203+that late-aughts grenade night sight which brought the unloaded weight of my rifle to a pound under an unloaded SAW in the trucks and take the poo poo pump-action with the gutted-550 sling to the PX and Cadillac DFAC. Guess I would have looked pretty dumb if insurgents had started coming over the wall...
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chitoryu12 posted:I mean if you don't invade their country you don't get hit with rocks. Bing bong. I need to put a grenade launcher on my windshield.
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Jul 11, 2019 07:07
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A Bad Poster posted:gently caress all that, XM25 is where it's at. I know someone who got saddled with one in Afghanistan. Never fired it because the prototype grenades cost like $9k apiece and they would have had to get permission from an O-6 or higher, which isn't exactly great when you're in a firefight. So if I was to imagine someone saving their squad with one and facing a court martial for daring to fire the expensive grenades, how far off the mark would I be?
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Jul 11, 2019 10:17
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chitoryu12 posted:I mean if you don't invade their country you don't get hit with rocks. Bing bong. quote:Let's Talk About Idiots!
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Jul 11, 2019 11:08
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:So if I was to imagine someone saving their squad with one and facing a court martial for daring to fire the expensive grenades, how far off the mark would I be? Probably just take all $9k out of your rear end.
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Jul 11, 2019 13:23
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A Bad Poster posted:gently caress all that, XM25 is where it's at. I know someone who got saddled with one in Afghanistan. Never fired it because the prototype grenades cost like $9k apiece and they would have had to get permission from an O-6 or higher, which isn't exactly great when you're in a firefight. lol wait they made them
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Jul 11, 2019 13:26
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I wish we'd start buying all of our grenade launchers from South Africa, just so we could have poo poo that looks like it's from the set of Robocop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbqHx3TLBE
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Jul 11, 2019 13:36
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They got far enough to put them into testing in a live battlefield at least. The reason for the high level of authorization required was because they'd need to send in a team to do a thorough BDA for H&K and the DoD after the firefight and interview all the soldiers for their experience with it or some poo poo. A bunch of dudes from Regiment in country didn't want to deal with that, unsurprisingly.
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Jul 11, 2019 13:41
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A Bad Poster posted:They got far enough to put them into testing in a live battlefield at least. The reason for the high level of authorization required was because they'd need to send in a team to do a thorough BDA for H&K and the DoD after the firefight and interview all the soldiers for their experience with it or some poo poo. A bunch of dudes from Regiment in country didn't want to deal with that, unsurprisingly. The Wikipedia article on it is hilarious and is 1000% written by someone who works for H&K. "Every squad that tried them loved them! They called it The Punisher, and the Taliban dropped their weapons and ran away in fear of it's $1,000-a-shot grenades! Soldiers started leaving their M4s behind because they totally loved it so much, not because they didn't feel like carrying two long guns after we made them lug an XM25 around!" "Also one blew up in training and hosed a guy up but don't worry about it, he lived."
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Jul 11, 2019 13:59
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Oh, yeah, the dude they gave that to was also deployed as a SAW assistant gunner that time, so his combat load was already ridiculously heavy without carrying that around.
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Jul 11, 2019 14:07
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A Bad Poster posted:Oh, yeah, the dude they gave that to was also deployed as a SAW assistant gunner that time, so his combat load was already ridiculously heavy without carrying that around. I was going to ask "what the gently caress?" but the answer is, inevitably, "lol military."
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Jul 11, 2019 19:28
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Since when do saw gunners need an AG?
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Jul 11, 2019 19:29
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colachute posted:Since when do saw gunners need an AG? Never seen one in my infantry experience. Must be evidence of a newer, weaker army
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Jul 11, 2019 19:31
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AG’s are/were supposed to pick up if the main gunner is killed or incapacitated. They also get hosed and had to carry a tripod/ spare barrels and or ammo. That’s how it was when I was a 60 gunner.
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Jul 11, 2019 19:42
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That’s how it is on the 240. But saw gunners weren’t on a gun team since they could carry everything themselves.
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Jul 11, 2019 19:54
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When I carried a saw my agunner carried a spare barrel and as many reloads as we could pile in his pack. We were both in the camp of "there's no such thing as too much ammo" But that was USMC in the 90s so ymmv
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Jul 11, 2019 20:15
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The contention many of us have is that the SAW is usually an individual weapon, not a crew served. What sort of fancy, fully-manned unit was this guy in?
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Jul 11, 2019 20:48
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:The contention many of us have is that the SAW is usually an individual weapon, not a crew served. What sort of fancy, fully-manned unit was this guy in? 75th Ranger Regiment.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:08
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Buddy of mine went to Afghanistan as a designated marksman so they gave him one of those tricked out M14s. Naturally that came with a battle load of 7.62 in those heavy-rear end steel mags the M14 takes. Army gonna Army this was on top of his M4 and load of 5.56. Oh and his M4 had a 203. So he also got to carry a load of 40mm.
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Jul 11, 2019 22:24
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McNally posted:Buddy of mine went to Afghanistan as a designated marksman so they gave him one of those tricked out M14s. Naturally that came with a battle load of 7.62 in those heavy-rear end steel mags the M14 takes. Lmao
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Jul 11, 2019 22:39
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McNally posted:Buddy of mine went to Afghanistan as a designated marksman so they gave him one of those tricked out M14s. Naturally that came with a battle load of 7.62 in those heavy-rear end steel mags the M14 takes. What is "How all of my joints were ground to dust", Alex.
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Jul 11, 2019 22:44
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McNally posted:Buddy of mine went to Afghanistan as a designated marksman so they gave him one of those tricked out M14s. Naturally that came with a battle load of 7.62 in those heavy-rear end steel mags the M14 takes. I wonder if he's enjoying his 20% disability for missing multiple discs and bad knees by age 25?
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McNally posted:Buddy of mine went to Afghanistan as a designated marksman so they gave him one of those tricked out M14s. Naturally that came with a battle load of 7.62 in those heavy-rear end steel mags the M14 takes. "On behalf of a grateful nation, I'm sorry ma'am but your son was killed scrolling through his weapon inventory."
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Jul 11, 2019 23:27
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You are overencumbered and cannot run!
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Jul 11, 2019 23:29
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The Modern American Soldier: Every Man an Armory Unto Himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxzfqce0jqY
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The Modern American Soldier: Every Man an Armory Unto Himself  (not American but fitting)
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Jul 11, 2019 23:42
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The GI lays on its back, its armour plate baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not until you take off the radio, the first line ammo, the second line ammo, the CDF, the 72. But you’re not helping. Why is that?
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Jul 11, 2019 23:54
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Of course he's a Marine.
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quote:No detail was overlooked, down to the groomsmen's 'don't tread on me'" cufflinks. 
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Jul 12, 2019 00:15
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How many soldiers are getting those predatory wedding loans that are popping up these days?
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Jul 12, 2019 00:18
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Makes those Wafflehouse Wedding pictures from a decade back look absolutely classy by comparison.
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Jul 12, 2019 00:21
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I like the unironic “My dad said I’m supporting a huge racist. I hope things get better.”
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Jul 12, 2019 00:24
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Future divorce spotted.
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CommieGIR posted:Future divorce spotted. He's an E3 with a hashmark. This is not his first poor life choice. Edit: Also those pizza box badges looool
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Jul 12, 2019 01:20
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CommieGIR posted:Future divorce spotted. My money is on murder/suicide
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Jul 12, 2019 01:29
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Proud Christian Mom posted:My money is on murder/suicide That assumes he can hit his target(s).
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Dick Burglar posted:That assumes he can hit his target(s). You can't miss choking her to death.
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McNally posted:Buddy of mine went to Afghanistan as a designated marksman so they gave him one of those tricked out M14s. Naturally that came with a battle load of 7.62 in those heavy-rear end steel mags the M14 takes. Buddy of mine was our 203 guy. Of course this was when we still had the A2 rifles, plus he was stuck as the SINGARS RTO. loving Army.
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Is anyone here a JAG? My buddy (US Army) is getting chaptered out for a disclosed mental illness that his recruiter ignored. My buddy actually wants to stay in (actually loving crazy, right? Catch-22) but has had his two hearings and lost. Is there anything else he can do?
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