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Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
Thinking about actually trying this out. I noticed on steam that there's a bunch of downvotes because there's a possibility that you wont be able to link the account and Squeenix doesnt give a poo poo

soo, should i just get it straight from squeenix instead?

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TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Finally finished the MSQ and all I can say is holy poo poo this is the best Final Fantasy story in ages, with one of the best, most compelling FF villains of all time

I feel like I just played FFXVI or something

That final showdown scene when the music kicks in is absolute perfection

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jul 11, 2019

Emily Spinach
Oct 21, 2010

:)
It’s 🌿Garland🌿!😯😯😯 No…🙅 I am become😤 😈CHAOS👿! MMMMH😋 GHAAA😫
Shamelessly posting some shots I took of my dancer carelessly throwing her chakrams around in the crystarium. Is there a way to remove action effects in gpose? I managed by taking screenshots while slightly moving the joystick, but not sure if there's a better way.



Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

small bird pudding posted:

Shamelessly posting some shots I took of my dancer carelessly throwing her chakrams around in the crystarium. Is there a way to remove action effects in gpose? I managed by taking screenshots while slightly moving the joystick, but not sure if there's a better way.





there should be a toggle in the gpose menu to deactivate skill effects, yes. Just dig around in the menu.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Fargin Icehole posted:

Thinking about actually trying this out. I noticed on steam that there's a bunch of downvotes because there's a possibility that you wont be able to link the account and Squeenix doesnt give a poo poo

soo, should i just get it straight from squeenix instead?

Wife bought it on steam 2 days ago and it redeemed fine

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

Tashilicious posted:

there should be a toggle in the gpose menu to deactivate skill effects, yes. Just dig around in the menu.

I think you can also just disable battle effects altogether in the options and that will carry over to gpose

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Tashilicious posted:

there should be a toggle in the gpose menu to deactivate skill effects, yes. Just dig around in the menu.

It's the last button on the top of the Group Pose Settings menu (Toggle Battle Effects On/Off).

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Luna Was Here posted:

I think you can also just disable battle effects altogether in the options and that will carry over to gpose

yeah but turning it off just for GPose is probably better if you wanna keep the effects for actually playing.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Finished. What a game. What a wonderful game.

Here's my showdown face.

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Fargin Icehole posted:

Thinking about actually trying this out. I noticed on steam that there's a bunch of downvotes because there's a possibility that you wont be able to link the account and Squeenix doesnt give a poo poo

soo, should i just get it straight from squeenix instead?

The problem with Steam is that if you buy one thing on steam, you are now stuck buying everything on steam. You can't buy ARR on steam and then grab shadowbringers when it's on sale on GMG for example, you have to get Shadowbringers also on Steam, and then any future expansions as well. Other than that, there shouldn't really be any issues.

Iron Prince
Aug 28, 2005
Buglord
Here’s some ShB Ishgard-related things I didn’t quite get: After some quest you’re morgana-style forced to go to bed and have a dream/flashback/flashforward of an attack in ishgard with a copy of the heavensward book about your exploits being prominent.

Was this a flashback to a real event I forgot about?

Something to show how much the people care for the Warrior of Light across worlds?

Or a reference to something ongoing that might tie into the “rebuilding of ishgard” quests that have been announced?

Just seemed out of the blue to me, and I don’t know if it’s referencing something I forgot or missed

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

Iron Prince posted:

Here’s some ShB Ishgard-related things I didn’t quite get: After some quest you’re morgana-style forced to go to bed and have a dream/flashback/flashforward of an attack in ishgard with a copy of the heavensward book about your exploits being prominent.

Was this a flashback to a real event I forgot about?

Something to show how much the people care for the Warrior of Light across worlds?

Or a reference to something ongoing that might tie into the “rebuilding of ishgard” quests that have been announced?

Just seemed out of the blue to me, and I don’t know if it’s referencing something I forgot or missed


This was events during the 8th calamity (so the future, and the Exarch's past), showing how much the WoL meant to people. It ties in to how the WoL was the beacon of hope that the survivors rallied around.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Iron Prince posted:

Here’s some ShB Ishgard-related things I didn’t quite get: After some quest you’re morgana-style forced to go to bed and have a dream/flashback/flashforward of an attack in ishgard with a copy of the heavensward book about your exploits being prominent.

Was this a flashback to a real event I forgot about?

Something to show how much the people care for the Warrior of Light across worlds?

Or a reference to something ongoing that might tie into the “rebuilding of ishgard” quests that have been announced?

Just seemed out of the blue to me, and I don’t know if it’s referencing something I forgot or missed


That was a scene from the future, and the Crystal Exarch was going through the history books trying to figure out the best time period to pull you from.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Orcs and Ostriches posted:

This was events during the 8th calamity (so the future, and the Exarch's past), showing how much the WoL meant to people. It ties in to how the WoL was the beacon of hope that the survivors rallied around.
I was briefly confused by this topic as well. Initially I parsed it as the Exarch and co. finding the book and realizing they'd shown up too early, meanwhile outside due to time distortion the "knights twelve" were becoming rubble because The Bad Things were fighting them, possibly in primal form, and winning. But I suppose it probably meant the statue.

Ither
Jan 30, 2010

Failboattootoot posted:

Just in case this isn't joke posting, blu is not a real job and caps at 50 and you can't progress the story with it.

Overwatch Porn posted:

blu is not a real class, it's purely side content. you can't use it for anything that remotely matters.

I'm really sad that this is the fate of Blue Mage.

Hopefully this changes at some point.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Iron Prince posted:

Here’s some ShB Ishgard-related things I didn’t quite get: After some quest you’re morgana-style forced to go to bed and have a dream/flashback/flashforward of an attack in ishgard with a copy of the heavensward book about your exploits being prominent.

Was this a flashback to a real event I forgot about?

Something to show how much the people care for the Warrior of Light across worlds?

Or a reference to something ongoing that might tie into the “rebuilding of ishgard” quests that have been announced?

Just seemed out of the blue to me, and I don’t know if it’s referencing something I forgot or missed


yeah it's a flashback to the exarchs past, your future, during/after the calamity. the dialogue says, after he's done reading the book, "No this would be too early, maybe at a point after they liberate ala mhigo". It's about the exarch picking the point in time from whence to pluck you

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Basically it was (post MSQ and post MSQ dungeon spoilers) The Future Ironworks and the Exarch doing research on the Warrior of Light to figure out when the best time to grab them was. Remember by that point after your death its been 2-3 centuries of mad-max apocalypse world. You're mostly just a legend to them and the exact details are probably not well known to them.

Adus
Nov 4, 2009

heck

PunkBoy posted:

Hell yeah, Lyse owns.

i like lyse but i'd rather have kept 'yda'.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Ither posted:

I'm really sad that this is the fate of Blue Mage.

Hopefully this changes at some point.
They don't like removing old content and I think they should use Beastmaster from Tactics Advance as a normal class with the monster thing. The bells would be a great weapon and add some cool aesthetic options.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

So for the new Mechanist, any reason not to Gauss Shot/Ricochet on cooldown?

Kaubocks
Apr 13, 2011

ImpAtom posted:

So for the new Mechanist, any reason not to Gauss Shot/Ricochet on cooldown?

saving charges for raid buff/trick attack windows

otherwise no

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

ImpAtom posted:

So for the new Mechanist, any reason not to Gauss Shot/Ricochet on cooldown?

Not really, as far as I can tell. As long as you go into Hypercharge with no more than a total of 1.5 charges across the two you should be fine for preventing overcapping.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

ImpAtom posted:

So for the new Mechanist, any reason not to Gauss Shot/Ricochet on cooldown?

Not that I'm aware of, since overheat doesn't affect them

aers
Feb 15, 2012

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Basically it was (post MSQ and post MSQ dungeon spoilers) The Future Ironworks and the Exarch doing research on the Warrior of Light to figure out when the best time to grab them was. Remember by that point after your death its been 2-3 centuries of mad-max apocalypse world. You're mostly just a legend to them and the exact details are probably not well known to them.

All that work and they nearly just get you killed anyway

Frabba
May 30, 2008

Investing in chewy toy futures

S.J. posted:

Not that I'm aware of, since overheat doesn't affect them

Not directly, but each cast of heat blast reducing their cooldown by 15 seconds during overheat seems like a pretty good reason to always be on cooldown.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Frabba posted:

Not directly, but each cast of heat blast reducing their cooldown by 15 seconds during overheat seems like a pretty good reason to always be on cooldown.

Right, so there's no point in keeping them off cooldown regardless of where your heat gauge is at. Let er rip

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



I'm not sure what just happened in the MSQ, it's years behind but I know I'm not the only one playing through MSQ for the first time

So wait, I'm not the warrior of light anymore? Did Midgardsormr just sever my link to Hydaelyn or did he just straight up murder her? that whole "all the crystals blink out" bit was a tad concerning in its ambiguity

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


tithin posted:

I'm not sure what just happened in the MSQ, it's years behind but I know I'm not the only one playing through MSQ for the first time

So wait, I'm not the warrior of light anymore? Did Midgardsormr just sever my link to Hydaelyn or did he just straight up murder her? that whole "all the crystals blink out" bit was a tad concerning in its ambiguity

He severed your connection with her. It's still technically there, you just can't hear her voice or have her directly intervene to protect you. You still have the Echo, and you're still immune to primal influence.

Varance
Oct 28, 2004

Ladies, hide your footwear!
Nap Ghost

tithin posted:

I'm not sure what just happened in the MSQ, it's years behind but I know I'm not the only one playing through MSQ for the first time

So wait, I'm not the warrior of light anymore? Did Midgardsormr just sever my link to Hydaelyn or did he just straight up murder her? that whole "all the crystals blink out" bit was a tad concerning in its ambiguity

That's a spoiler that won't be fully answered until the end of Shadowbringers.

Massive spoiler, don't click until you've finished ShB MSQ: Without getting to far into the why, your player character predates Hydaelyn and was tempered/split into 14 souls during the sundering. The crystals are representative of WoL's other selves from the aether-flooded shards destroyed in past calamities. Middy manages to lock them away for a bit.

Varance fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Jul 11, 2019

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Varance posted:

That's a spoiler that won't be fully answered until the end of Shadowbringers.

Massive spoiler: The crystals are representative of your alter egos from the aether-flooded shards destroyed in past calamities. Middy manages to lock them away for a bit.

I don't think this is correct

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Varance posted:

That's a spoiler that won't be fully answered until the end of Shadowbringers.

Massive spoiler: The crystals are representative of your alter egos from the aether-flooded shards destroyed in past calamities. Middy manages to lock them away for a bit.

I think I've a lot of story to get to even understand "past calamities"

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Tashilicious posted:

I don't think this is correct

Yeah the numbers dont even add up there

Veib
Dec 10, 2007


In old non-MSQ news, I've been leveling crafters and oh my god this Culinarian level 60 cutscene of an old man going to food heaven is INCREDIBLE.

Here's a video somebody made three years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD2LLfy5mDE&t=83s

Varance
Oct 28, 2004

Ladies, hide your footwear!
Nap Ghost

Tashilicious posted:

I don't think this is correct

There's a lot of theorycrafting that goes into it, but... (again, massive ShB end of MSQ spoilers) When a shard merges with the source, a massive flood of aether flows onto the source, which includes the souls of all of its former inhabitants. Emet-Selch's master plot is basically to get all the souls onto the Source, so he can sacrifice all the remaining incompletes to Zodiark for the rebirth of all the original inhabitants of the pre-sundered world. It's assumed that your counterparts on the 7 destroyed shards flooded onto the source during their respective calamities, and we manage to collect six of them during ARR during that MSQ. The crystal cutscenes are essentially representative of you reclaiming one of your own shards. It is explicitly stated in Shadowbringers cutscenes (when we have that sitdown conversation) that you've soaked up 7 shards, so it's not exactly something out of left field. Source, Fire, Ice, Water, Wind, Earth, Lighting. After ShB MSQ, you're at 8 out of 14.

Based on plot conversations with Elidibus/Unukalhai/the 5th role quest NPC in ShB, Unukalhai is definitely associated with or might outright be your dark shard, while Ardbert is explicitly stated in Shadowbringers MSQ to be your light shard.
.

Varance fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Jul 11, 2019

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Varance posted:

That's a spoiler that won't be fully answered until the end of Shadowbringers.

I'm not sure if the best practice here is to spoil the person on something two expansions in advance for a question that can be satisfactorily answered with Midgardsormr shut down your connection with Big Mama Crystal to make you prove yourself.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Varance posted:

There's a lot of theorycrafting that goes into it, but... (again, massive ShB end of MSQ spoilers) When a shard merges with the source, all of its aether floods into the source, which includes the souls of all of its former inhabitants. Emet-Selch's master plot is basically to get all the aether onto the Source, so he can sacrifice all the incomplete to Zodiark for the rebirth of all the original inhabitants of the pre-sundered world. It's assumed that your counterparts on the 7 destroyed shards flooded onto the source during their respective calamities, and we manage to collect six of them during ARR during that MSQ. The crystal cutscenes are essentially representative of you reclaiming one of your own shards. It is explicitly stated in Shadowbringers cutscenes (when we have that sitdown conversation) that you've soaked up 7 shards, so it's not exactly something out of left field.

Based on plot conversations with Elidibus/Unukalhai/the 5th role quest NPC in ShB, Unukalhai is definitely associated with or might outright be your dark shard, while Ardbert is explicitly stated in Shadowbringers MSQ to be your light shard.
.

That is stretching what the cutscenes involving those crystals after killing primals in ARR mean. That's what I'm getting at. I know that what you're saying is correct about everything else, but I don't think it connects to those crystals like you claim it does.

Varance
Oct 28, 2004

Ladies, hide your footwear!
Nap Ghost

Tashilicious posted:

That is stretching what the cutscenes involving those crystals after killing primals in ARR mean. That's what I'm getting at. I know that what you're saying is correct about everything else, but I don't think it connects to those crystals like you claim it does.

Might be stretching now, but there's a pretty good body of evidence supporting the theory that will probably be built on during the upcoming patches.

Also... Level 80 role quests. When we kill the shades of the WoD's buddies, we retrieve their souls in the form of light-aspected crystals, just like the ones from ARR. Healer quest kinda beats you over the head with it.

Varance fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Jul 11, 2019

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

They're important rocks you find on the ground.

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Varance posted:

Might be stretching now, but there's a pretty good body of evidence supporting the theory that will probably be built on during the upcoming patches.

Also... Level 80 role quests. When we kill the shades of the WoD's buddies, we retrieve their souls in the form of light-aspected crystals, just like the ones from ARR.

But... Everybody on the source is seven times rejoined, not just us. I assumed it just kind of happens during a rejoining, not that everybody has to find a piece of their soul lying on the ground. Also, there are only six elemental crystals.

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Varance
Oct 28, 2004

Ladies, hide your footwear!
Nap Ghost

SyntheticPolygon posted:

They're important rocks you find on the ground.

Important rocks that might have something to do with our relic this expansion, given who we hand it over to.

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