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looks like you're pretty good at soccer kid but why can't you play football like your father did Aaron Sorkin scores his life with 38 Special and James Taylor because kinda like pop country is music for American Nazis, Dad Rock is music for American Liberals aka Pretty Much Nazis.
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I'm going to be a little bit contrarian here and say that the use of the Mercator Projection gets a little too much of a bad rap: the reason you use it is so that plotting travel on a map is always in a straight line, as opposed to having to make curved routes on any of the more "realistic" projections. It even comes into play if you're trying to teach basic cartography at the secondary level, so that the teens can play around with getting the distance from one LatLon coordinate to another, which is exactly what was taught to us in school. Y'all did point out that the use of a map projection that subtly overly-highlights the Global North might have happened with a completely innocent explanation like the one I just provided, and it still behooves to examine the consequences, but I think it was a flaw in the writing that we never really got into why Mercator is the default projection in the first place. ___ Meanwhile, the protests from this episode are almost definitely a reference to the 1999 WTO protests in Seattle. It was the largest protest action of its time against the globalization and free trade movement, and for people with the memories to match it was sort of the last gasp of a militant left against the End of History tide. It sucks that Toby basically takes the "capitalism has uplifted millions out of poverty" line when it comes to rationalizing why opposing the march of globalization is wrong, and then he doesn't even deliver his little diatribe to the protesters themselves - if I recall correctly he says it to the cop while they're outside shooting the poo poo. The other thing is that this depiction of the protesters barely even has them filling up an auditorium, whereas the Seattle protests involved as many as 40,000 people. It's a dismissive, mocking strawman that basically fell off the face of political history because 9/11 happened. And yeah, Aaron Sorkin loving hates protesters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwk_Ot8orPY
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm going to be a little bit contrarian here and say that the use of the Mercator Projection gets a little too much of a bad rap: the reason you use it is so that plotting travel on a map is always in a straight line, as opposed to having to make curved routes on any of the more "realistic" projections. Not contrarian at all! Because you're right, BUT, in the episode itself the CfSE krew briefly tips the hat to Mercator for straight-line travel being the salient benefit of his particularly distorted projection. They kind of quickly shovel it under the rug by being like "This was in 1580 whatever and lol at those dummies" but it's there. This episode was fun to edit because I started... 3 beers deep and had two more while we recorded. cleaning up my terrible, deteriorating microphone etiquette (is there a word like embouchure for this?) lmao chirurgeon i owe you a pm i've just been... this week has been slammed
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gradenko_2000 posted:The other thing is that this depiction of the protesters barely even has them filling up an auditorium, whereas the Seattle protests involved as many as 40,000 people. It's a dismissive, mocking strawman that basically fell off the face of political history because 9/11 happened. Jesus gently caress I couldn't finish that clip. It's horrendous.
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We talmbout Soviet war heros this week and thanks to the cspam pics thread I have become aware of "Combat Girlfriend" which I will assuredly engrave onto whatever rifle I am assigned when the militias are reconstituted I mean come ON Ukies 4 The Revolution bb
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Anyone have that 2016 meme where it shows a picture of Occupy Wallstreet and it has the condescending tag of "Maybe you should get involved in politics then" then a picture of a Bernie rally and it has the tag "Motherfucker" or something like that? That clip is just your typical Boomer dismissiveness.
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oh, god... you guys actually like the peters projection scenes? The Peters projection is essentially the Co-Exist sticker popularized by a grifter. It's virtually the worst equal-area map projection. This is a hill I'll die on. John Billingsley is probably most familiar to goons for Star Trek Enterprise.
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Echo Chamber posted:oh, god... you guys actually like the peters projection scenes? The Peters projection is essentially the Co-Exist sticker popularized by a grifter. It's virtually the worst equal-area map projection. This is a hill I'll die on. Look be cool, map doers, I don't give a single poo poo about cartography in and of itself so I'm not gonna fight with you about this stuff the framing of the science of projection enabling imperialism is what I'm enthused about, particularly
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Echo Chamber posted:oh, god... you guys actually like the peters projection scenes? The Peters projection is essentially the Co-Exist sticker popularized by a grifter. It's virtually the worst equal-area map projection. This is a hill I'll die on. It's not about the Peters projection itself, it's about challenging the imperialist cultural assumption that kids are fed about how Western Civilization is the most important thing of all. We're not stanning the map. We ARE stanning Order of Lenin recipient Daniel Gault, though, I want to remain clear on that.
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the Worst Wing Defenders Have logged on i don't ever log off
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Goddamn Toby remains the worst.
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Toby is poo poo but at least he believes in something (lovely) enough to fight for it. I'd rank Bartlett as the worse because he's a completely empty suite wrapped in credentials and he's so god drat smug about it.
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I'll sit down if I want to Mister President. You're not a King.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142055392488374272 what is the virtue of a proportional response 
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Right Thing Wrong Reasons is like a running theme anyway I dunno where wampalord is except constantly posting but I was out of town for work last week, maybe we'll get a new episode up this week??
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Yo have you guys considered doing a Designated Survivor review after the worst wing. S1 of DS was ok but then it took a nosedive and S2-3 have been West Wing fanfiction where the main character literally says he'll fix America with glorious centrism.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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On this new episode, we discuss filibusters, diaping up, email narration framing devices, and even the film Rashomon! We had a lot of fun recording this one, hope you have as much fun listening to it, and I hope everyone checks out Binging with Babish, or at least this one with the dessert from this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uIK3o32hig
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Gunshow Poophole posted:SPORTS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEVdca9U9LM
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I'm a little sad you didn't link to the Garfunkel and Oats sports song.
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Acinonyx posted:I'm a little sad you didn't link to the Garfunkel and Oats sports song. That one is really good, thanks for reminding me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fraSdN-PG8 appropriate that we highlight a female version, cause this episode is all about EQUAL RIGHTS YEAH!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN1WlLVoHSQ Just in time for your evening commute it's an extremely pivotal episode of the series that we try to take at face value and actually halfway enjoy! I think I'm breaking my own rule here but I would, no joke, RECOMMEND WATCHING THIS EPISODE if you're a fan of television. wtf!
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Gunshow Poophole posted:I think I'm breaking my own rule here but I would, no joke, RECOMMEND WATCHING THIS EPISODE if you're a fan of television. wtf! Ew, gross, then you have to see the bad half too. Disregard, everyone, just listen to the podcast instead.
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https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1150767062274498561 SORKINNNNNNN!!!!
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So this episode starts the story line where we are supposed to think Hoynes running in the primary is a huge betrayal. But like, do we ever know why Bartlett even ran? I haven't watched the show recently, but I can't remember a single piece of legislation or foreign policy that we are supposed to think is important or historic as the viewers. People are just supposed to feel safer with President Dad in charge than someone less credentialed?
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Acinonyx posted:So this episode starts the story line where we are supposed to think Hoynes running in the primary is a huge betrayal. But like, do we ever know why Bartlett even ran? I haven't watched the show recently, but I can't remember a single piece of legislation or foreign policy that we are supposed to think is important or historic as the viewers. People are just supposed to feel safer with President Dad in charge than someone less credentialed? I don't recall them ever addressing it. I think it's vaguely related to Bartlett being a kind of "what if Kennedy hadn't been shot?" kind of angle on the presidency but I don't think they ever say much about his dad beyond the guy being abusive.
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Is kind of embarrassing that this sentiment can be considered aspirational for today's dems lmao
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Hey another drop in time for your weekend commute! It's Oliver time!. Realizing a little too late that these three episodes probably could have been mooshed together into one recording session ala the season opener, but this is snappy and very low-key "political" so to speak.
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i have listened to all the episodes and i think the podcast is good. please use this quote on the back of the book you eventually write
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Rogue Copter Pilot posted:i have listened to all the episodes and i think the podcast is good. 
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Rogue Copter Pilot posted:i have listened to all the episodes and i think the podcast is good. Thanks  it is nice to channel my unfathomably bountiful cynicism into something creative.We're almost a full year into the project too
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The leak stuff really makes me think that Toby would be one of those people who call Chelsea Manning a traitor.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The leak stuff really makes me think that Toby would be one of those people who call Chelsea Manning a traitor. Space Shuttle Brother comes back with a vengeance with Toby potentially betraying military secrets too so you know just more completely incoherent ideology in service of a character trait as opposed to the other way around.
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Wasn't the whole military secrets thing just a way to write Richard Schiff off the show for most of the last season because he was sick of the show by that point but somehow give his character some sort of dramatic thoroughline because he agreed that he'd pop in for like three or four episodes worth of scenes? It was basically a panic mode button push of "we can't write him off because the babies are in trouble, people like babies and would want us to constantly go back to check on them; we can't just kill him, we can't fire him, he basically has to be 'jailed' somehow for like a year or so and pardoned".
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because I always forget to post my commentary after hearing an episode, I wanted to get this in before the next one: that thing with the failing Chinese satellite is kind of a stereotype of Chinese-manufactured goods being low-quality junk that was really prevalent in the late 90s/early 00s, since trade relations with China had only just been normalized at the time
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thrilling conclusion episode of the MS Reveal Arc is going to be slightly delayed due to scheduling problemsgradenko_2000 posted:because I always forget to post my commentary after hearing an episode, I wanted to get this in before the next one: that thing with the failing Chinese satellite is kind of a stereotype of Chinese-manufactured goods being low-quality junk that was really prevalent in the late 90s/early 00s, since trade relations with China had only just been normalized at the time Hadn't really connected these two dots, I'm curious about the chicken/egg for this particular stereotype. In the modern era it seems as though it's been like a dialectical thing? Particularly given the other stereotype of outsourcing American manufacturing to China, I'm curious how much one informs the other. Did capital recognize that they could exploit the affordability of foreign labor and this RESULTED in shoddy manufacturing, or was it shoddy manufacturing demands that resulted in China (understanding it's not really the correct "entity" to refer to) deliberately appealing to those needs.
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The first manufacturing concerns to move into an area are usually making cheap goods because the infrastructure isn't there for more complex or capital intensive goods. Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan all had similar "cheap junk" reputations when they started industrializing.
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Goon Danton posted:The first manufacturing concerns to move into an area are usually making cheap goods because the infrastructure isn't there for more complex or capital intensive goods. Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan all had similar "cheap junk" reputations when they started industrializing. Yeah Japanese tech and cars were considered "cheap poo poo" until the 80s
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