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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Goddamn, got a feeling that the city will scrape by this time but it is absolutely doomed. If New Orleans exists by 2030 I'll be surprised this is kinda how I'm feeling, this is going to peter out (but still be pretty bad, just not catastrophic) and there's gonna be a lot of people going "See? Ha! Told you!" that won't evacuate when this happens again two years from now or whatever and will end up underwater
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Log082 posted:this is kinda how I'm feeling, this is going to peter out (but still be pretty bad, just not catastrophic) and there's gonna be a lot of people going "See? Ha! Told you!" that won't evacuate when this happens again two years from now or whatever and will end up underwater Two months from now. This is the beginning of hurricane season. Apparently, the river level should go down in the next few months though. At least it usually does.
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Barry is a Cat 1 glancing blow, but is still projected to push the flood level within inches of the levee limits. Seems like a Cat 3+ direct hit with similar heavy rain beforehand would presumably just wipe the city. That seems... bad???
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I feel like maybe the levees should be reinforced a bit yeah
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so how badly is nola hosed
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:from the /r/neworleans reddit: First casualty of climate change lmfao nobody tell them about Mozambique.
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Admiral Ray posted:First casualty of climate change lmfao nobody tell them about Mozambique. tell me about mozambique more plz
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Marzzle posted:tell me about mozambique more plz https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/world/africa/cyclone-kenneth-mozambique.html
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PostNouveau posted:Two months from now. This is the beginning of hurricane season. yeah no way new orleans doesn't get hit with more huge storms this year if we're getting hurricanes already
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triple sulk posted:so how badly is nola hosed Hard to say. There's gonna be a lot of damage just from flooding, but the storms acting really funky so theres a solid chance the water levels stay below the levees
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bnut that doesn't mean the levees won't fail anyways.
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PostNouveau posted:The Corps and authorities have been talking about "you might get a bit of spillover at 20 feet," but during Harvey, they talked about the two Houston earthen dams at the reservoirs that needed to hold, and how if one overtopped, the dam below the overtopping water would quickly crumble beneath the strength of the flow. I don't know how this stuff works, but why would the levees be different? Water going over the top is real bad no matter what yeah. Houston was particularly dumb IIRC because the water was actually just going to go around the levee and erode from the side first.
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Big dam breach in Brazil a few days back after huge rainfall: https://www.facebook.com/SuperCelula/videos/207699430134787/ quote:Late this morning, the Quati Dam, located in Pedro Alexandre, northern Bahia, had part of its ruptured structure flooding areas of Coronel João Sá, a town 30 km from the site of the ruptural! Since the Cold Front arrived in Bahia Monday, a lot of rain fell between the north of the state and Sergipe! Even with FF moving away to the high seas, a channel of humidity and dug, provided conditions for the continuity of the rains, persistently! Just to get an idea, from yesterday to today, in 24 hours, it rained more than 180 mm, after the previous days it has rained a lot! There are still conditions for the continuity of the rains between that night and dawn, and it will happen tomorrow! That's why civil defense is warning cities along the route of the embankment so they can leave their homes! There is still the possibility of total rupture of the dam, which would greatly increase the volume of water in progress! 07/07/2019.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKLxoAPU1c This video was posted a while ago, but is a good reminder that dams go from 'fine' to 'hosed' very quickly.
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I guess I probably should wait until October or something to visit my dad in Florida eh
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SKULL.GIF posted:I guess I probably should wait until October or something to visit my dad in Florida eh it's best to let him go, along with the entire state of florida. grieve for them now
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SKULL.GIF posted:I guess I probably should wait until October or something to visit my dad in Florida eh Nah, remember when Jose lived through his hurricane? you'll be fine.
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Who will rise to claim dominion over the aquapocalyptic ruins of the old world in the watery hell of new new Orleans 2020?
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In the future, new Orleans will be the chocolate city, not due to her demographics but due to the severe amount of human and pig poo poo that will be washed into her streets when the levees fail
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Over Easy posted:In the future, new Orleans will be the chocolate city, not due to her demographics but due to the severe amount of human and pig poo poo that will be washed into her streets when the levees break More like over big easy
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Gripweed posted:if New Orleans permanently floods this weekend, turning the city into just an extension of the Mississippi, how long until influences start going there to do photoshoots on the roofs of the half submerged buildings on Bourbon Street? while its still storming
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You're really bumping up against Planck time there
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Vox Nihili posted:Barry is a Cat 1 glancing blow, but is still projected to push the flood level within inches of the levee limits. Seems like a Cat 3+ direct hit with similar heavy rain beforehand would presumably just wipe the city. That seems... bad??? welcome to how the world ends, not with a whimper but a self inflicted wound that everyone saw coming and decided not to do anything about it because corporate profits
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Goon Danton posted:When was the last time a major city was permanently destroyed and abandoned, anyway? In a flood? In the time of the Roman Empire the northern Netherlands looked this:  Throughout the middle ages in the Netherlands there were a great number of massive flood events called the Grote Menschenverdrinckingen (The Great Drownings of People), which were mass casualty events often killing tens of thousands of people. The one which most altered the landscape was the St. Lucia's flood of 1287, an event that killed about 50,000 people in the Netherlands (and about 30k more in England and France), and created a permanent inland sea:  Nobody really knows even which settlements were lost, and there were several other comparable storms which killed ~30k people. After seven hundred years of dam-building and land reclamation efforts, about half of the land lost to the St. Lucia's flood has been reclaimed.  In the south of the country, in Zeeland (aptly named Sealand), a combination of river floods and great Atlantic storms routinely altered the landscape throughout the Middle ages, drowning vast swaths of territory in flood/storm events. Because Zeeland is at the mouth of a river delta, it is especially prone to flooding. Here is a map showing some of the roughly 200 settlements that were completely under water for extended periods of time:  You can see that some of them later re-emerged as the landscape shifted again. Many of these were villages, and some remains can be seen, such as the church tower of Koudekerk (No. 15 above):  Most of the town was located beyond the dyke, in the water. Or this one on Google maps (Tolsende, no. 67):  Many ruins remained visible above water for many years, such as this castle, now gone:  Most of these sites were villages, however several were entire cities, such as Reimerswaal (number 57):  Now you don't lose a city like this overnight, but a series of storms will do the trick. Over a couple of decades a succession of storms wiped out some of the smaller buildings and caused a lot of damage to the buildings and walls, caused a lot of people to resettle elsewhere, drowned the land around it, caused stress to the dykes, and eventually a giant storm came, washed away the dykes, and boom, one day in 1570, no more Reimerswaal.  Here you can recognize the church tower and the one remaining battlements on high ground. Looks like they piled up some of the rubble into rudimentary dams. The people living in the ruins all died when a fire destroyed everything two years later during the war, and another flood poured over the ashes, destroying all traces of the city. twoday has issued a correction as of 13:30 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Addamere posted:corporate profits is definitely the reason i personally am not taking direct action It's about targeting the right sectors
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And this is eerily plausible for a few cities in the near future.
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its worth noting there were no failures of the river levees during katrina, it was the levees on the canals and pontchartrain. ofc the river only got 15 feet above sea level (which its already passed), not 19.
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https://twitter.com/wxbrad/status/1149451016481464320
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FWIW, the newscasters were saying yesterday that the levee situation in the West Bank looks worse than it is, and that the river is running right up to the levee, but they still have about 6 feet of room.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu7lIGLchnQ come down to lake pontchartrain, rest your soul and feed your brain that's where you will get to see everything the water can be
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Oh it isn't a led zeppelin song (originally) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhEa8vuP6U
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I feel like maybe the levees should be reinforced a bit yeah na just abandon new orleans same with florida just human hubris and waste of money to build cities on a literal marsh that just basically recedes right into the goddamn ocean they'll just be our climate change pripyat
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Lastgirl posted:na gently caress off
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