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MelancholyMark posted:Lol Can you Feel the Love Tonight is pretty rough on the new soundtrack Friend of mine says Be Prepared is absolutely butchered.
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Timby posted:Friend of mine says Be Prepared is absolutely butchered. Wasn’t it a late addition? I seem to remember early reports that claimed it wasn’t going to be in the film at all.
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Jul 12, 2019 02:36
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Wasn’t it a late addition? I seem to remember early reports that claimed it wasn’t going to be in the film at all. I believe so, yes. It wasn't in the original soundtrack announcement.
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Jul 12, 2019 02:37
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:nah they're good chief It's not even that his stuff is dark. It's actually not really that dark. As has been illustrated by people that pay more way more attention to his stuff than me Mark Russell is a writer who thinks he's writing clever satire but he's really writing surface level garbage that hits you in the face like a baseball bat with its clumsy messaging. Flintstones is bad in this way but his Snagglepuss is even worse because it deals with even more heavy issues that deserve a lot more care. In BSS a while back Archyduchess went into great detail about Russell's lazy execution of these ideas.
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Jul 12, 2019 02:57
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Yeah, seems pretty ham-fisted. I can see a ~Trump Voter~ having anguished remorse over his participation in mass murder ("we murdered those people, Barney...") but not taking the 747 view ("we participated in a genocide, Barney..."). X-O posted:It's not even that his stuff is dark. It's actually not really that dark. As has been illustrated by people that pay more way more attention to his stuff than me Mark Russell is a writer who thinks he's writing clever satire but he's really writing surface level garbage that hits you in the face like a baseball bat with its clumsy messaging. Flintstones is bad in this way but his Snagglepuss is even worse because it deals with even more heavy issues that deserve a lot more care. In BSS a while back Archyduchess went into great detail about Russell's lazy execution of these ideas. Being a Control Panel Goon, I love reading these anecdotes about the other subforums: like hearing tales of far-off lands... 
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Jul 12, 2019 03:10
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Wasn’t it a late addition? I seem to remember early reports that claimed it wasn’t going to be in the film at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLQ6SRH90s4 what the gently caress did they do they turned it into spoken word
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Jul 12, 2019 03:11
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Timby posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLQ6SRH90s4 “Alright so we’re not doing Be Prepared in this version, right?” “Nah, I don’t think it’ll be missed” *soundtrack is announced* “Oh poo poo the fans are pissed, we have to do the song but Chiwetel can’t really sing and the scene hasn’t been shot” “gently caress it, just hand him the lyrics and have him Shatner it.”
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Jul 12, 2019 03:34
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"I'm not the lion they think I am at home Oh no, no, no, I'm a Lion King! Lion King shaking his mane up here alone"
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Jul 12, 2019 03:48
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He kinda sounds like Jeremy Irons? To his credit. But yeah... that's not a song.
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Jul 12, 2019 03:52
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Timby posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLQ6SRH90s4 Fun Fact  The original "Be Prepared" was not accidental in its use of the Boy Scouts motto along with fascist imagery reminiscent of Nazi Germany: that was an intentional dig at the Boy Scouts for being anti-LGBTQ. Ironically, Disney had a very strained relationship with the gay community at the time, officially distancing themselves from "Gay Day" while also tacitly supporting it. Honestly, the new version wasn't as bad as I was expecting from y'all's posting, but his actual attempt at some operatic signing at the end was 
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Jul 12, 2019 05:32
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X-O posted:In BSS a while back Archyduchess went into great detail about Russell's lazy execution of these ideas. got a link to that? i'm curious to read it.
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Jul 12, 2019 05:35
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Timby posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLQ6SRH90s4 Oh Oh no
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Jul 12, 2019 05:45
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This Veronica Mars episode about the teacher accusation is not great
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Jul 12, 2019 05:46
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I asked about shows that feature depression a few days ago. I marathoned Euphoria tonight and it’s really good, the spiritual successor to Skins, though I do wish the characters were 10-15 years older because... The reason I asked for the recommendation was that sad and depressing shows featuring characters I identify with help me work through my own poo poo, so maybe I should’ve been more specific. I should probably watch You’re The Worst.
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Jul 12, 2019 05:50
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Josh Lyman posted:I asked about shows that feature depression a few days ago. I marathoned Euphoria tonight and it’s really good, the spiritual successor to Skins, though I do wish the characters were 10-15 years older because...
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Jul 12, 2019 06:01
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Josh Lyman posted:I asked about shows that feature depression a few days ago. I marathoned Euphoria tonight and it’s really good, the spiritual successor to Skins, though I do wish the characters were 10-15 years older because... Mr. Robot kinda counts? Ooh yeah Bojack is so so so good. And yeah, Bojack being cartoon animals helps make the extremely dark plots palatable.
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Jul 12, 2019 06:03
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Have you seen Six Feet Under? One of the characters, Billy, is bipolar and takes up a bit of screen time. His condition seems a bit theatrical to me though but I don't know much about the condition. Like sometimes he'll purposefully not take his medication to gently caress with someone he dislikes.
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Jul 12, 2019 06:04
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Yeah, this episode's a loving trainwreck. I don't know how anyone thought this was okay. e: It's picking up, I may have been premature
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Jul 12, 2019 06:07
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Josh Lyman posted:I asked about shows that feature depression a few days ago. I marathoned Euphoria tonight and it’s really good, the spiritual successor to Skins, though I do wish the characters were 10-15 years older because... It’s not explicitly about depression, but maybe Baskets? Each of the three main characters are dealing with difficult periods in their lives, disappointment with themselves, and issues with family. It’s a dramedy but it’s extremely earnest and heartfelt at times. There’s a couple episodes that have really resonated with me.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It’s not explicitly about depression, but maybe Baskets? Each of the three main characters are dealing with difficult periods in their lives, disappointment with themselves, and issues with family. It’s a dramedy but it’s extremely earnest and heartfelt at times. There’s a couple episodes that have really resonated with me.  that's a good recommendation. The last few episodes of the first season really hit hard.Mu Zeta posted:Have you seen Six Feet Under? One of the characters, Billy, is bipolar and takes up a bit of screen time. His condition seems a bit theatrical to me though but I don't know much about the condition. Like sometimes he'll purposefully not take his medication to gently caress with someone he dislikes. That's one thing that irks me in media; how bipolar characters are portrayed. Haven't seen 6FU admittedly, but characters always seem to be over the top and unstable, like the writers just googled it, read a webmd article and go 'perfect!' One huge example is that episode of King of the Hill when Khan goes off his bipolar meds, and Hank and crew are trying to exploit his manic 'swings' to get him to design something. Are there any nuanced/realistic portrayals of it in a show? Anything I've seen is usually 'He's off his meds! Oh my Godddddddd!' LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Jul 12, 2019 07:30
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Mu Zeta posted:Anime on Netflix sounds like one of those shows that get buried with zero promotion and nobody remembers it a week after it comes out. Noted flop Castlevania, question mark?
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Jul 12, 2019 07:44
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The episodes in season 2 of Baskets where he travels with Morpheus and Trinity the rest are one of the best arcs in recent television memory
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Jul 12, 2019 07:46
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FactsAreUseless posted:Yeah, this episode's a loving trainwreck. I don't know how anyone thought this was okay. It's been a while since I watched the first couple seasons, but I think that episode's pretty good for reminding you that Veronica is still a teenager and she can be very, very wrong. I can see it being a lot harder to take the first half now, and it would seem less likely for a Veronica of today to take the view she does.
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Jul 12, 2019 08:39
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Fun Fact [citation needed]
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Jul 12, 2019 09:32
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X-O posted:It's not even that his stuff is dark. It's actually not really that dark. As has been illustrated by people that pay more way more attention to his stuff than me Mark Russell is a writer who thinks he's writing clever satire but he's really writing surface level garbage that hits you in the face like a baseball bat with its clumsy messaging. Flintstones is bad in this way but his Snagglepuss is even worse because it deals with even more heavy issues that deserve a lot more care. In BSS a while back Archyduchess went into great detail about Russell's lazy execution of these ideas. I know opinions are subjective so I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say you're both wrong because it's good.
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Jul 12, 2019 14:03
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Fun Fact I mean is not a giant stretch really, aren't they all but officially Trump Youth at this point? All this Lion King talk makes me want to watch it, the original that is.
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Jul 12, 2019 14:08
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I wanted to see the Lion King musical but found out tickets are like $300.
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Jul 12, 2019 14:20
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More Broadway shows really need to get released on video.
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Jul 12, 2019 14:24
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IRQ posted:I mean is not a giant stretch really, aren't they all but officially Trump Youth at this point? They severed ties with the Mormon church because they now allow openly gay scouts and girls into the organization, which is actually causing some funding issues at the moment cause the Mormons had become a major place of new scouts for the last decade and a half but that's mostly gone now. So to answer your question, much like all scouting, it probably depends on your local organization and their leadership.
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Jul 12, 2019 14:30
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IRQ posted:More Broadway shows really need to get released on video. I mean, they all have plenty of cam versions floating around if you really want to see it. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Jul 12, 2019 14:38
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feedmyleg posted:I mean, they all have plenty of cam versions flossing around if you really want to see it. I'm assuming not as good as the Hamilton one?
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Jul 12, 2019 14:46
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Not my area. I've skimmed through a few to see if they're worth watching and the quality has varied pretty widely. I think there's a whole underground world of it out there that I'm not tapped into.
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Jul 12, 2019 14:59
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My wife saw Hamilton in Chicago on Saturday night. She said it was great!
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Jul 12, 2019 15:01
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August 16th for Mindhunter season 2: This time they get the minds.
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Jul 12, 2019 15:31
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zoux posted:August 16th for Mindhunter season 2: This time they get the minds. I should finish the last episode of season 1 one of these days...
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Jul 12, 2019 16:45
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Rhyno posted:My wife saw Hamilton in Chicago on Saturday night. She said it was great! Hamilton is great but a lot of goons are 2kool4it
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Jul 12, 2019 16:58
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Escobarbarian posted:Hamilton is great but a lot of goons are 2kool4it I'm just not a fan of musical theater. Or people really.
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Jul 12, 2019 17:00
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I want to see Hamilton but when it came to ATL it was sold out in minutes and gently caress tickets were expensive.
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Jul 12, 2019 17:05
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It's a weird show in general, you've got people of color cast as famous american figures, but then the show just tells a bunch of fake hagiographic stories about those people to make them look mostly pretty good. I imagine not having any familiarity with american history outside of propaganda and museum exhibits of old documents would help with enjoyment. One of the first times I saw what I could call conservative musical theater. It falls into a category for me where I don't understand why they used that historical setting to tell the story they wanted to tell, when doing so requires altering people's perceptions of history to create your setting. Like there are better ways of creating characters than using highly powerful historical figures and padding them. Feels like watching Little Bobby Liberal playing with America's loaded handgun, playing around, laughing and joking...pointing it in "jest" at his younger sister..acting like he's manipulating old forces to have new uses, but for something that always bends toward harm in the end. Looking back I generally see whatever energy helped Hamilton was clearly the same wave of escapism and denial on all sides that led to Trump a year later. Hamilton is the musical theater equivalent to Hillary Clinton. I mean.... we were THIS CLOSE to having Hamilton removed from the 10 dollar bill and Obama admin scrapped the plan after all the Hamilton love started to puddle on the floor. Peacoffee fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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I was never really interested in Hamilton. Besides, from what I've heard, it's woke theater for white people.
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