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lmao at anyone genuinely thinking places like new orleans are going to survive climate change regardless of how high you build walls, they should start putting up signs that say abandon all hope ye who enter
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Jul 12, 2019 18:56
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Doorknob Slobber posted:lmao at anyone genuinely thinking places like new orleans are going to survive climate change regardless of how high you build walls, they should start putting up signs that say abandon all hope ye who enter Welcome to New Orleans 
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Jul 12, 2019 19:00
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new orleans, same great taste!
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Jul 12, 2019 19:04
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PostNouveau posted:Welcome to New Orleans 
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Doorknob Slobber posted:lmao at anyone genuinely thinking places like new orleans are going to survive climate change regardless of how high you build walls, they should start putting up signs that say abandon all hope ye who enter It's true you can build 20 ft levees but not 25 ft ones  though yeah itll cost money and unfortunately we are suddenly economic conservatives when it comes to saving a city
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:It's true you can build 20 ft levees but not 25 ft ones lmao
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Jul 12, 2019 19:06
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:It's true you can build 20 ft levees but not 25 ft ones How high are these leeves going to end up? 50 feet?
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you can build a hundred foot levee but can you make it proof against barges full of grenades and fertilizer?
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Source4Leko posted:How high are these leeves going to end up? 50 feet? That'd be cool
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Jul 12, 2019 19:11
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Attack on Titan-style walls but they're holding back the Mississippi
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:It's true you can build 20 ft levees but not 25 ft ones After the sea level rises above a certain point you're living not so much in a city but in a large open-air toilet. Sewage and rain won't drain away anymore, it will have to be pumped out. Do you really think that's sustainable? People here aren't conservatives, you've just missed how much warming and sea rise is baked in already.
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Nocturtle posted:After the sea level rises above a certain point you're living not so much in a city but in a large open-air toilet. Sewage and rain won't drain away anymore, it will have to be pumped out. Do you really think that's sustainable? People here aren't conservatives, you've just missed how much warming and sea rise is baked in already. sunk cost fallacy is just another right wing talking point *piles up more wet sand to make the sand castle beautiful* PostNouveau posted:Attack on Titan-style walls but they're holding back the Mississippi lmfao
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Jul 12, 2019 19:15
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:It's true you can build 20 ft levees but not 25 ft ones the big problem is that climate change isnt just a sea level rise, its also rising temperatures, food/water shortages, refugees, war and other scarier things. saving cities from sea level rise seems like a nice idea, but when the time comes to actually save places like that there are going to be issues besides just making your levees taller
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Jul 12, 2019 19:16
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Nocturtle posted:After the sea level rises above a certain point you're living not so much in a city but in a large open-air toilet. Sewage and rain won't drain away anymore, it will have to be pumped out. Do you really think that's sustainable? People here aren't conservatives, you've just missed how much warming and sea rise is baked in already. are we pretending this isn't New Orleans already
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Jul 12, 2019 19:17
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I'm changing my position, I want to make the levees as tall as possible now. Just loving massive.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:are we pretending this isn't New Orleans already no, but there's a threshold that is rapidly being eclipsed after which point no amount of good money thrown after bad to perpetuate an unsustainable, wildly optimistic status quo will help? you're being remarkably obtuse about this lmao
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Jul 12, 2019 19:18
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PostNouveau posted:Attack on Titan-style walls but they're holding back the Mississippi what if we divert the Mississippi into space a space barge floating raw materials up to the O'Neil cylinders
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:are we pretending this isn't New Orleans already a leftist who cares about property is something
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yeah it's already a big bowl they hafta pump the water and poo out of, hilarious that people don't already know this those pumps are enormous and like last year they caught a buncha city workers slacking off and not maintaining them
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PostNouveau posted:Welcome to New Orleans I'm the scuba skeleton about to get a wicked BJ from the other scuba skeleton
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I'm changing my position, I want to make the levees as tall as possible now. Just loving massive. to be honest, it'd be one hell of a landmark totally not a testament to capitalism either~ just imagine the incessant whining from Trump that he can't complete a border wall that looks like New Orleans' super massive levees
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what if we put new orleans in a pyramid then it would be safe from the water. just move the grains, bake lots of bread 2 make room
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:yeah it's already a big bowl they hafta pump the water and poo out of, hilarious that people don't already know this The pumps are state of the art ... for 1920. Just a miracle of modern engineering a century ago. They're so old that they were built BEFORE ELECTRICITY WAS STANDARDIZED. They built them using the best type of electricity for the job, 25-cycle, and then the rest of the world promptly decided 60-cycle was the right kind. So New Orleans has to have special power plants to power just these pumps. They have to machine their own parts when something breaks and only a handful of people know how all that poo poo works.
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Nola has had pumps since the 1830s lol
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Nocturtle posted:After the sea level rises above a certain point you're living not so much in a city but in a large open-air toilet. Sewage and rain won't drain away anymore, it will have to be pumped out. Do you really think that's sustainable? People here aren't conservatives, you've just missed how much warming and sea rise is baked in already. it's obviously unsustainable, but so is most of the rest of our first-world existence if we wanna plow resources into saving some buildings and historic sites from the encroaching seawaters, we can do it as long as long as cost is no object and everything is overengineered rather than underengineered, and we don't mind the occasional engineering failure drowning a couple thousand people every so often in the long run, it's less efficient than just moving the city, probably, but more efficient than dredging up sand from the ocean floor and shipping it to tourist beaches to save them from sea level rise
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PostNouveau posted:The pumps are state of the art ... for 1920. Just a miracle of modern engineering a century ago. the best is that bush the lesser didn't spring for replacing or expanding any of that poo poo when they built all the new floodworks after katrina kanye was right
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Source4Leko posted:How high are these leeves going to end up? 50 feet? long term? 230ish if you account for storm surge
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yellowD posted:neuorleans white people can go to neurorleans and talk like jar jar binks and just get away with it
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I just read up on why they don't divert the dumb river and found out they're already set up to do that and just won't It's time to blow this control structure, use the old channel and , relocate the town and port https://earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/sensing-our-planet/a-tale-of-two-rivers  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_River_Control_Structure It's going to be easier to pick up every house in the french quarter and relocate it than to keep the Mississippi from pushing on your wall every second forever. Reminder its drainage goes all the way to freaking new York reminder that new york state drains into nola 
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mastershakeman posted:I just read up on why they don't divert the dumb river and found out they're already set up to do that and just won't when the river floods they open it up to the atchafalaya anyways, that wouldnt do anything to reduce flooding i think
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lmbo
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mastershakeman posted:It's going to be easier to pick up every house in the french quarter and relocate it than to keep the Mississippi from pushing on your wall every second forever. Reminder its drainage goes all the way to freaking new York All those states will be desert soon anyway and then who's laughing?
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Here's a fun study for y'all: what will major cities feel like in 2050? https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0217592#abstract0 Appendix S2 is a spreadsheet of every city and the three closest analog 'future' cities.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:when the river floods they open it up to the atchafalaya anyways, that wouldnt do anything to reduce flooding i think I bet it will if they blow the dams, that NASA site says that the atchafalaya is 20 feet lower and water prefers to go there. They can probably only open the gates so much right now , I'm assuming they're at max
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