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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Hwurmp posted:

Depth Crawlers are...good now? I'm not ready for this new world

Well, "good"

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Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

because if helicopters were even vaguely tolerable to control they would be outrageously overpowered. enemies can't deal with altitude.

Yeah, this. Even with the lovely garbage helicopters in 4.1 you could cheese the poo poo out of some stages with them, and the ones in 5 are improved enough that that's still true even with the deadlier enemies.

Hwurmp posted:

Depth Crawlers are...good now? I'm not ready for this new world

They're infinitely better than 4.1 which is good because playing an Air Raider underground feels even worse in this one than it did in 4.1 due to Air Raiders being so much more powerful in this game.

Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008



But Depth Crawlers were always good.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled
They always had good guns but their armor was such a joke that it was quite feasible to have more armor on foot than an on-level depth crawler, which in turn made them nearly unusable for anything besides shooting down a tunnel mouth.

I think the basic level 1 depth crawler in 5 has more armor than like a level 50 one did in 4.1.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

I have no idea how to Ranger without Fusion Blasters or double Lysanders :negative: Buffed-up shotguns are pretty good at least.

Kanos posted:

Yeah, this. Even with the lovely garbage helicopters in 4.1 you could cheese the poo poo out of some stages with them, and the ones in 5 are improved enough that that's still true even with the deadlier enemies.

Starting with the level 42 Bazelart Blaze, 4.1 copters become responsive enough for frequent use. The top-tier Bazelart Powered is legit a joy to fly.

SoR Blaze
Apr 12, 2006

Azhais posted:

Aw, did the indistinguishable from human guys replace the hectors?

Imagine I posted that Don Draper meme where he's standing in front of the pitch board but the pitch board reads: hectors but now you can shoot their limbs off

BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


Hectors are better than frogs purely because you cannot shoot a frog in the head so hard their entire upper body just whips back so far they are unable to shoot you.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority
Oh my god Air Raiders are SO MUCH BETTER now!

Zoig
Oct 31, 2010

Jawnycat posted:

The greatest travesty in 5 though is that the motorcycles are actually controllable. What is this sick twisted madness of driving in a straight line.

this would be a problem were it not for the fact that if you hit anything higher than the curb you get sent hurtling into what is most likely a pack of ravenous insects, so i think it balances out as still entertaining.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

BisbyWorl posted:

Hectors are better than frogs purely because you cannot shoot a frog in the head so hard their entire upper body just whips back so far they are unable to shoot you.

You can just shoot the frog's arm off, though?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
despite what the glowing red chest orbs would suggest, hectors never had locational damage.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
is whale's gunner still really good

also does the air raider still have a loving cruise missile or has no one even remotely gotten to that point

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


I like that in EDF world it is apparently a common tactic of terrorists to use giant ants to attack things

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Gamerofthegame posted:

is whale's gunner still really good

also does the air raider still have a loving cruise missile or has no one even remotely gotten to that point
I used them in Iron Wall and they are good.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
We've set up the Co-op Goons Discord with support for EDF, including a dedicated voice channel and bot-assigned EDF lfg roles. If you're looking to squash bugs with goons, we hope you'll consider joining us.

https://discord.gg/FHbXFCt


EDF! EDF! etc etc

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Nothing like wandering around lost for 20 minutes because the last enemy on a too long cave mission appears to have clipped through a loving wall.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

dis astranagant posted:

Nothing like wandering around lost for 20 minutes because the last enemy on a too long cave mission appears to have clipped through a loving wall.

edf! edf!

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY
https://streamable.com/0uoi4

Humanoid ALIENS?! :monocle:

nnnotime
Sep 30, 2001

Hesitate, and you will be lost.

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Do you need a squad for this game or is it single player?
You can play all of the EDFs solo. I played EDF 2017, 4.1 and 5.0 solo and was fully engrossed for a month with each one.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Is the DLC worth it? It's like another 30+ bucks or so...

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Taintrunner posted:

Is the DLC worth it? It's like another 30+ bucks or so...

The item dlc is a bunch of reskins of stuff you'll get normally pretty early, other than the Fencer "Wild Skeleton" thing that gives a bunch of passive benefits that you don't normally get on one item for a long time. There will eventually be a couple mission packs but those aren't out on pc yet.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Taintrunner posted:

Is the DLC worth it? It's like another 30+ bucks or so...
Both decoy packs are hilarious and effective at keeping bugs off you long enough to kill them easily. There have been many times a group of enemies come at me, stop, and raise their head toward the noise maker. You can attach them to ANYTHING. I got frogs to shoot each other while the balloon dances on them.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Eh I guess I'll hold off for now. Here's my Steam if anyone wants to co-op: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Taintrunner/

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

quote:

“I read about this in a sci fi novel once, a bunch of rats got onto a space ship, and they kept multiplying and multiplying, and ended up eating all the food!”
“Unlike machines, living creatures can reproduce.”
“Heeeey wait a minute, are you saying there’s going to be more monsters?!”

quote:

“You mean aliens that look like humans?”
“One head, two eyes, hands and feet. Bipedal.”
“Almost identical to humans...this is unbelievable.”

quote:

“Listen everyone, I saw their faces. They have two eyes on their face; like humans they see things with their eyes. We can use this against them - I don’t think they’re able to attack something they can’t see, so when they attack us we just hide in the shadows of buildings.”
“That is also possible.”

10/10 GOTY.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
So it took them 5 months to try the Independence Day trick for the first time.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Jawnycat posted:

The helis in 5 at least are better than they were in 4.1, you can actually take off in less than five minutes and, vaguely, aim at ground targets with the fixed guns! Like, I don't feel like I'm just meme'ing when I bring a heli in on my loadout anymore. At the very least assaulting the walking alien base with one was super rad and, maybe, somewhat effective. Maybe.

The greatest travesty in 5 though is that the motorcycles are actually controllable. What is this sick twisted madness of driving in a straight line.

Motorcycles are still delightfully terrible if you bring them on a rice field map, imo. The little bumps along the edges of every field makes it nearly impossible to turn at any kind of speed without just flying sideways.

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

Bofast posted:

Motorcycles are still delightfully terrible if you bring them on a rice field map, imo. The little bumps along the edges of every field makes it nearly impossible to turn at any kind of speed without just flying sideways.

Are you referring to tactical ragdoll ejection? That's a feature.

For real, though, my favorite vehicle so far is the dinky free bike with just a couple machine guns attached. I agree that the rice fields are less than optimum terrain for EDF's powerful technology.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
rangers really needed a way to travel long distances. bikes you can actually use fill that role.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

So it took them 5 months to try the Independence Day trick for the first time.

The first time you 'beat' the mothership or whatever we did it by riding helicopters up and trying not to ragdoll to death. We all died at the same time as the You Win screen appeared so it counted. Rip Storm Team

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

e: oh weird

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Bofast posted:

Motorcycles are still delightfully terrible if you bring them on a rice field map, imo. The little bumps along the edges of every field makes it nearly impossible to turn at any kind of speed without just flying sideways.

Pretty much any wheeled/treaded vehicle can't deal with that terrain at all. Trying to drive a tank across a rice field and fire accurately is like trying to perform open heart surgery during a magnitude 10 earthquake.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
The radar detects bugs that dig out of the ground seconds before it happens. That was a shock seeing all this red and nothing on the map. Really felt like Alien/s.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
I want to interview the VA for this game, it has to be so much fuckin' fun to read this stuff the way they do it.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

I love reading EDF reviews just to see if the reviewer figures out that the Lancer is actually fast and not slow. This is a surprisingly rare.

Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."
"Yeeeeeaaaaaah! New guns rule!"

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Blasthole Spear is LIFE

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY



This is so nice for early farming. The red ant beach mission is nice to farm on Hard and just chill for a while.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
I just wish you could make it so that it didn't pick up health packs.

Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008



Heard a “we have to crack down on illegal immigrants” joke :whitewater:

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Damo
Nov 8, 2002

The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.

Offensive Clock
is it just me or is the fencer just extremely op. it makes me wonder what the point of the ranger is when you could just have another fencer.

i always play ranger and my friend plays fencer. for a class whose upsides are 4 loving weapons that do devastating damage and give poo poo loads of options, 2 support slots, and the highest armor, while downsides are supposed to be "he slow" and "hard to aim precise" he sure seems to zoom around the map at mach 5, sometimes literally flying around -- just a million times more mobile than me. and, he is still able to aim precise as gently caress and destroy anything and everything way faster then me with his superior damage. he is always able and ready to take out any type of threat, or at least more prepared for anything than i could ever be with his 4 slots compared to my 2. he is always more ready to take out ships (super fast), any type of enemy, long range, short range, tank, evade trouble effortlessly, literally everything better than I can do. he practically never dies. if I bring one wrong weapon out of my 2 i am basically useless sometimes. seems like that class has actually no downside from my perspective.

it was like this in 4.1, it's still like this in 5. i mean ranger can still bring some stuff to the table but it seems useless in comparison. i was hoping that would have changed in 5 but the dynamic so far still seems to be there, even with the ranger buffs.

am i just bad or something? i really want to just play ranger, as the time i tried fencer i was immediately turned off. but it seems like , when i watch him do his thing, im just kicking myself in the dick for no reason. i honestly cant think of something i can do better than a fencer, other than call up vehicles now which i am not familiar enough with yet to factor in. he can do more damage from distance (like way loving further than my snipers), do more damage close up, do more damage to ships, more mobility, more survivability, better everything.

Damo fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jul 13, 2019

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