Pokemon Megathread: I have very strong feelings about pokemons

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oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

Ometeotl posted:

How incompetent can you get?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:37

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 09:22

Avalerion: Oct 19, 2012

Megaevolutuions are at least cool but this won�t even have those so w/e. Z moves and gygamaxing are a waste of their apparently stretched resources.

Dunno why they keep trying to reinvent these gimmicks. It�s similiar how poke studio and that dumb opera thing were all pointless and bad compared to contests.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:40

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Avalerion posted:

Megaevolutuions are at least cool but this won’t even have those so w/e. Z moves and gygamaxing are a waste of their apparently stretched resources.

Dunno why they keep trying to reinvent these gimmicks. It’s similiar how poke studio and that dumb opera thing were all pointless and bad compared to contests.

Gigamaxing is just mega evolution it's no less cool

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:41

Saagonsa: Dec 29, 2012

It looks way more lame, mechanically, than megas

E: And also the method of getting a pokemon that can do it suuuuuuuuuucks compared to megas

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:46

avoid doorways: Jun 6, 2010; 'twas brillig; Gun Saliva

Mega evolution you can do in any battle with any species of the pokemon once you have the stone. Gigamaxing you have to catch a specific pokemon that's capable of doing it, which are said to be rare, you can only gigamax in specific set places, and it lasts for 3 turns.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:48

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Yes, Mega evolution is broken

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:49

RatHat: Dec 31, 2007; A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

It made bad pokemon viable again though.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:56

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

gigamaxing is less cool becuase 1) it tints them red which i don't like 2) it ties in to the fake z-move stuff which i never liked 3) it's actually called gigantimaxing which isn't as cool

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:56

Saagonsa: Dec 29, 2012

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Yes, Mega evolution is broken

Outside of the legendaries (and pseudo-legendaries minus garchomp), which are supposed to be broken, it's pretty well balanced

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:57

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Yes, Mega evolution is broken

So is Bibarel

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:57

Sultan Tarquin: Jul 29, 2007; and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

What models did the Let's Go games use?

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:58

Saagonsa: Dec 29, 2012

Bibarel is legit and I will not let anyone shittalk him

# ? Jul 13, 2019 13:59

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

oddium posted:

gigamaxing is less cool becuase 1) it tints them red which i don't like

The red is blood steam, which symbolizes the blood price they pay for giga evolution

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:00

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

Sultan Tarquin posted:

What models did the Let's Go games use?

LGPE are gen VII games

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:00

Farecoal: Oct 15, 2011; There he go

Avalerion posted:

It�s similiar how poke studio and that dumb opera thing were all pointless and bad compared to contests.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:13

MorningMoon: Dec 29, 2013; He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Megas have many issues but Gigantamax manages to be worse.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:13

TOMMY PROVOLONE: Jul 30, 2014; I am the sun. The moon.

By far the worst thing to happen to Pokemon was its fans becoming adults.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:14

avoid doorways: Jun 6, 2010; 'twas brillig; Gun Saliva

Pokemon fans got older, sure, but becoming adults is debatable

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:16

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

TOMMY PROVOLONE posted:

By far the worst thing to happen to Pokemon was its fans becoming adults.

actually it was cutting Dexnav

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:16

SyntheticPolygon: Dec 20, 2013

Megas are very good and Gigantamaxing is not close to as good.

G Max Moves sound cooler than Z moves though. Z moves that are unique to individual pokemon rather than types and have affects beyond big damage is cool, and I think gives the sort of big super move feel they want. It's lame that these moves are attached to other turns of just having generically strong moves which sorta sucks. But I think overall it comes off as an evolution of the ideas from Z moves.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:19

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Doc V posted:

-Switch development is much, much slower than 3DS development.
-Scope creep: counting formes, there are over 1000 pokemon already and that number is only going to get bigger. Oomori mentions that they already struggled with implementing the entire national dex in Sun/Moon and basically, they knew that they were going to have to start cutting parts out eventually, the only question was when.
-The more resources they have to spend on maintaining existing pokemon, the fewer resources they have for implementing new ones.
-Having more pokemon makes it harder to create features like mega evolution and dynamaxing, which require extra models and balancing for a large number of pokemon.

this all sounds like bullshit nonsense for the biggest media property in the galaxy but w/e. they'll all be back by Gen 10 at the latest I bet

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:28

Countblanc: Apr 20, 2005; _{Help a hero out!}

Have they said how many new mons are being added

# ? Jul 13, 2019 14:46

Nth Doctor: Sep 7, 2010; Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

... and lets go and smash

Maybe I've been married too long, but you should at least buy dinner first.

less laughter posted:

actually it was cutting Dexnav

Countblanc posted:

Have they said how many new mons are being added

About twelve.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 15:04

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

How dare a company only require its employees work 40 hours a week in order to have a work/life balance.

This is probably the real cause, and why Animal Crossing is delayed, but they paid dearly with investors for stating it.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 15:21

Saagonsa: Dec 29, 2012

iospace posted:

How dare a company only require its employees work 40 hours a week in order to have a work/life balance.

This is probably the real cause, and why Animal Crossing is delayed, but they paid dearly with investors for stating it.

They could just not subject them to insane release date deadlines, that's also an option.

And before anyone throws out how the Pokemon anime makes that impossible, I'm talking about doing this long term, not just suddenly pushing back the game's release.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 15:23

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

they could add more employees and keep 40 hour weeks. nobody wants devs to work themselves to death or depression

# ? Jul 13, 2019 15:24

MorningMoon: Dec 29, 2013; He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Apparently Sun and Moon had something crazy like 400 contractors.

So yeah, maybe dont loving poo poo out a yearly rpg and work conditions and quality will improve.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 15:32

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

indigi posted:

they could add more employees and keep 40 hour weeks. nobody wants devs to work themselves to death or depression

More devs = diminishing returns. It's not as simple as you think.

Saagonsa posted:

They could just not subject them to insane release date deadlines, that's also an option.

And before anyone throws out how the Pokemon anime makes that impossible, I'm talking about doing this long term, not just suddenly pushing back the game's release.

Or those deadlines could be set by someone else. Yes, I understand a lot of you are upset, but it was A. going to happen sooner or later, and B. let's be realistic here, it was either 1. working people to the bone, or 2. some features have to be dropped.

#2 there happens A LOT, but we generally don't hear about it happening. The big issue here is a feature that's getting dropped is, admittedly, a key feature, but it happened.

# ? Jul 13, 2019 15:34

The Golden Gael: Nov 12, 2011

qnqnx posted:

Well, it clearly worked well enough for a team of Chinese to steal models and animations wholesale from an arcade game and make them work in a phone game.
Refresh my memory though, aren't most 3D Pokemon games since X/Y using the same set of models, actually? Just with different texturing where applicable?

it's worse, they were all designed for Pokedex 3D

# ? Jul 13, 2019 15:35

iospace: Jan 19, 2038