|
whatever else keeps the elite boat afloat
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 21:30
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 13, 2024 07:45 |
|
|
Why does my arm shake and turn bright red when im reading thread
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 21:48
|
|
|
all poetry after Instagram is barbaric
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 22:29
|
|
|
I think Rupi Kaur has shown great growth since expanding her poems from a 140 character limit to 280.
Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 13, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 22:45
|
|
|
Franchescanado posted:I think Rupi Kaur has shown great growth since expanding her poems from a 140 character limit to 280. you must have a honeycomb for a heart how else could a man be this sweet
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 22:56
|
|
|
Lex Neville posted:oh god now im doing it myself 
Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jul 13, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 22:57
|
|
|
I'm glad more and more people are reading the Holy Bible, which counts as poc lit
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 23:25
|
|
|
Lampsacus posted:I don't know. Having a woman of colour's poetry reach hundreds of thousands/millions in in her lifetime is pretty spectacular. I know it's not real poetry or good poetry or whatever else keeps the elite boat afloat but sorry poetry doesn't resolve around DWM in this case? I don't know. Having a woman of colour's genocide kill hundreds of thousands/millions in in her lifetime is pretty spectacular. I know genocide is wrong or whatever else keeps the elite boat afloat but sorry politics doesn't resolve around DWM in this case? "yes but its bad!" I'd rather a genocide by a woman of colour by 'the masses' than a not genocide by another dead white priv. dude.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 23:42
|
|
|
emptiness is just a concept fill yourself with light and discount easter chocolate
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2019 23:57
|
|
|
open your blinds let in the sun love with all of your fragile, damaged heart but most of all gas this thread
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 00:33
|
|
|
Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Some very good stuff is or was very popular, what are you even talking about? Like what? And I don't meant to say that 'the masses are dumb,' but that the deeper you go, the more different people are. Something can only resonate with the vast majority of people if it does so on a surface level. Things that some people find to be the most profoundly good thing ever are not going to be 'got' by many other people, not because those other people are 'not of the elite' but because everyone is different, and not everybody likes the same things except on the very surface.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 02:40
|
|
|
CestMoi posted:the two genders are woman of colour and dead white priv. dude sweet, finally I am become intersectional
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 02:43
|
|
|
derp posted:Like what? I'm not even going to bother trying to come up with a list, but a ton of stuff that is considered "canonical" or "great" was moderately to very popular in its time. Dude, loving Shakespeare was popular. There was also bad stuff that was popular and good stuff that was unpopular but I don't think this basic thesis holds any water. Isn't this a dumb David Foster Wallace idea?
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 04:50
|
|
|
A lot of great authors were popular in their time, Mishima was popular, it's just that nowadays most people hardly read so it's hard to find people who are still into those authors, but that wasn't always the way it was.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 04:56
|
|
|
All my ideas have been had by others before I'm sure, yes.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 05:10
|
|
|
derp posted:Like what? Nabokov sold a ton of books, so did Umberto Eco, Norman Mailer, Fitzgerald... Camus and Sartre were superstars in their time. Earlier than that, you had Tolstoy, Dickens, Zola and many others who were good writers and very popular.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 10:18
|
|
|
Not to forget the Nobel prize winner Bob Dylan who is literally touring the world!
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 11:20
|
|
|
Don Quixote Huckleberry Finn Freedom
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 11:27
|
|
|
derp posted:Like what? The Qur'an
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 12:27
|
|
|
didn’t also ppl like Walt Whitman and Robert Frost become a public mainstay?
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 12:58
|
|
|
The best thing about reading a second hand book with stuff highlighted or underlined in it is when it all mysteriously stops halfway through the book
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 13:44
|
|
|
ulvir posted:didn’t also ppl like Walt Whitman and Robert Frost become a public mainstay? robert frost is bad tho
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 13:58
|
|
|
i prefer the term “not the best, but”
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 14:33
|
|
|
fridge corn posted:The best thing about reading a second hand book with stuff highlighted or underlined in it is when it all mysteriously stops halfway through the book I regret not buying a copy of The King in Yellow I found in which someone had annotated the pages with highlighters, written over and circled drat near every third word with a line going into the margins with insightful commentary like "!!!" or "reference to (something earlier in the story)???" Ten pages in, and the rest of the book was clean as the day it was printed. It took me six months but I finally finished Don Quixote this morning. I read the Penguin Classics translation by Cohen and found it quite readable and a lot funnier than I was expecting it to be. It's pretty rare that I finish a book and find myself actually missing the characters in it, but I definitely feel that way. I'm not sure how I feel about the ending of it; the sudden deathbed turn Don Quixote makes, declaring himself sane again and rejecting chivalry, seems a bit unsatisfying if a bit amusing in the sense that all of a sudden the people of La Mancha, who up to then had spent the whole book trying to dissuade him of his opinions on knighthood were now trying to do the opposite. The entire ending was very abrupt since Don Quixote is felled by Sampson Carrasco nearly 100 pages before the book actually ends and Cervantes seemed so unwilling to let go of the characters that he had to squeeze in one more prank from the Duke and Duchess before Don Quixote and Sancho even got close to returning to the village. Edit: here you go, have the worst take on Don Quixote ever from a libertarian nutjob site Apparently Don Quixote is the first "anti race-based slavery novel" (their emphasis, whatever that means) and their evidence for this is that 1) Cervantes was enslaved for a period of his life and 2) Sancho Panza at one point fantasizes about "selling all of the people of Ethiopia into slavery" which isn't quite right. Apparently Sancho's rear end and his brief disappearance is a reference to The Golden rear end, which I don't really buy, but I wonder why he chose that scene as evidence and not the scene where Don Quixote encounters some galley slaves being led by their slave traders, hears why they were enslaved and then literally frees them Heath fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jul 14, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2019 23:10
|
|
|
Lampsacus posted:I don't know. Having a woman of colour's poetry reach hundreds of thousands/millions in in her lifetime is pretty spectacular. I know it's not real poetry or good poetry or whatever else keeps the elite boat afloat but sorry poetry doesn't resolve around DWM in this case? Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jul 15, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 00:12
|
|
|
Kamala Harris 2020. Just finished Javier Marias's A Heart So White, which is real good, but this chump could sure loves to "tell, not show", completely ignoring the natural and non-ideological evolution of literature.
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 02:45
|
|
|
Every time I check into this thread everyone's arguing about the identities of writers or their politics and boy, it's no wonder why the word is dying on the vine with people like you acting as its guardians. Jesus
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 07:14
|
|
|
CestMoi posted:robert frost is bad tho Actually, if you read you'll find that Frost is good and an antidote to the lovely irony we've all become useless slaves to
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 07:19
|
|
|
i realize that it takes all kinds to make a world, and that i must look to the beam in my eye etc etc, but i am going to go back in time to commit brutal violence upon robert frost
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 07:45
|
|
|
Squashing Machine posted:Every time I check into this thread everyone's arguing about the identities of writers or their politics and boy, it's no wonder why the word is dying on the vine with people like you acting as its guardians. Jesus Every time i check in people are smugly saying the annotations in their book ran out.
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 08:33
|
|
|
Anyway, i don't think goons are killing literacy. I bet it's the proliferation of television and then smart phones.
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 08:35
|
|
|
More people are literate and reading books than ever though
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 10:44
|
|
|
Ebook killed the paperback star 
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 11:39
|
|
|
Mr. Squishy posted:Every time i check in people are smugly saying the annotations in their book ran out. it is pretty funny when annotations suddenly stops halfway through though. I've seen that a few times in books I've borrowed from the library
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 12:21
|
|
|
Squashing Machine posted:Actually, if you read you'll find that Frost is good and an antidote to the lovely irony we've all become useless slaves to i used to be an irony addict with no opinions but then i read robert frosts poem about arbitrarily choosing a path and then claiming you chose the cool one and now i'm ready to bring down the trump presidency
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 12:37
|
|
|
also,nearly everyone that claims some kind of high ground in which they are a return to sincerity from our decadent ironic ways has turned out to be a rapist so maybe don't be into those people.
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 12:38
|
|
|
obviously frost came a bit too early to be actively doing that, but the current artistic desire for a post ironic new sincerity has a roughly 1:1 correlation with being an actual rapist
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 12:41
|
|
|
On The Natural History of Destruction is just unbelievably good. You'd think I'd be able to believe how good Sebald's books are by now, but nope, still can't.
|
|
#
?
Jul 15, 2019 16:03
|
|
|
Some books I read on vacation: Mac's Problem by Vila-Matas — very much like other Vila-Matas novels, chill and funny Hold Fast Your Crown by Yannick Haenel — very funny and good, about an unhinged French author trying to find Michael Cimino to direct his 700-page manuscript on the life of Herman Melville ("the honey-combed brain of Melville") Hear Our Defeats by Laurent Gaudé — a bit too much sentiment perhaps, but stylish and a bit interesting. Reminds me of Enard's Zone but without the manic voice. I started reading The Gallows Pole by Benjamin Myers but I thought the prose was too purple. I just got the FSG short story collection of Gerald Murnane and I'm excited to read that.
|
|
#
?
Jul 22, 2019 14:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 13, 2024 07:45 |
|
|
derp posted:On The Natural History of Destruction is just unbelievably good. You'd think I'd be able to believe how good Sebald's books are by now, but nope, still can't. I don't remember who raved about Rings of Saturn like a hundred pages ago but I read it back then and reread it just recently and it is absolutely astonishing how good he is. That final passage (that starts "Today, as I bring these notes to a conclusion") might be the most moving thing I've ever read.
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2019 20:37
|
|
