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Lite Chat - Tbh I've played my switch undocked for like, less than 4 hours. It lives in it's dock and I just wanna play Nintendo games on my TV.
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The QTE's are fine and the checkpoints are generous enough that failing them makes them more comical than frustrating.
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Jul 14, 2019 11:05
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MechaSeinfeld posted:The QTE's are fine and the checkpoints are generous enough that failing them makes them more comical than frustrating. They're by no means the worst, and honestly I failed all of them on purpose just to see the awesome death sequences.
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Jul 14, 2019 11:44
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TBH it would be kinda hilarious if the lite switch did BT audio lol.
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Jul 14, 2019 12:10
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Yeah, except in that case it's still the parents buying it, and out of a regular Switch they get something multiple kids can share in front of a television as well as be portable. Neddy Seagoon posted:It's why the argument against it is "you're not getting the value you think you are out of it", not "it's a bad device". But there will also be a number of people shopping for a Switch Lite that know exactly what it is, exactly what the value benefits vs. the OG Switch are, and still want to purchase a Switch Lite at $199. And that's entirely OK.
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Jul 14, 2019 12:21
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ExcessBLarg! posted:But there will also be a number of people shopping for a Switch Lite that know exactly what it is, exactly what the value benefits vs. the OG Switch are, and still want to purchase a Switch Lite at $199. And that's entirely OK. Not in this loving thread! *cocks cardboard gun with JoyCon inside*
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Jul 14, 2019 12:26
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imagine if the lite had 3ds backwards capability
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Jul 14, 2019 12:44
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I've been using my switch a lot more on my commute to work, though I'd say in about 50/50 docked and undocked at home too (like when watching TV with the girlfriend or in bed before going to sleep). For me, the size of the switch is fine when playing it, but it's getting it in and out of a carry case to use it that's a chore. The slightly smaller size of the lite doesn't really scream much more added portability to me to be honest. I look at it and see the same issues I'd have with any other shell switch carry case and its still bulky enough that I'd have to stick it in my backpack. In turn, rendering the extra "portability" redundant. When it wasn't in a shell case, the 3dsxl fit into one of my pockets. It was a tight fit, but I'd say it was the max size you could get before needing to upgrade to a case to keep your expensive gadget safe. So this switch lite hasn't really sold itself to me.
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Jul 14, 2019 12:54
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Say you have a family with 2.3 kids. Nintendo wants to sell you (at least) one OG Switch "for the family", and also 2.3 Switch Lites so each kid can also play Pokémon on the bus. This is part of the reason why the Switch Lite wasn't introduced until 35 million OG Switches were already sold. It's intended to be a second-purchase system for many. Yeah, except that's not the point that's being discussed. It's a valid use-case, but the general argument here is "should you get a regular model or Lite as your singular Switch console purchase". And yes, people do actually want one knowing the pros and cons, etc, etc, and there's no issue with that either. ExcessBLarg! posted:Sure, there will be a number of ill-informed parents shopping for a "Switch" this year who probably would get value out of an OG Switch, but not realizing the potential of it will default to purchasing a Switch Lite because it's cheaper or "good enough" on the surface. This is where the real push-back actually is; It looks like a lot of people have jumped on it going "BUT IT'S SMALLER AND CHEAPER!  " at first blush, without actually looking closer at what that actually entails.
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Jul 14, 2019 13:16
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I wish Switch RE4 had gyro aiming  I'll still get it someday.
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Jul 14, 2019 13:21
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Neddy Seagoon posted:This is where the real push-back actually is; It looks like a lot of people have jumped on it going "BUT IT'S SMALLER AND CHEAPER! It entails it being smaller and cheaper
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Jul 14, 2019 13:37
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for people who are seeking a specific mode of engagement with the switch as a platform, the lite makes sense. it is a good value for them. buying 10 mcnuggets is theoretically a terrible value proposition when 40 is like $2 more expensive. sometimes people just want 10 mcnuggets. e: plus every nerd who wants nintendo to split the brand because the switch that is explicitly marketed as not docking is somehow falsely presenting itself is phenomenally dumb. italics won’t change that. the point of a switch is to play switch games. the gimmick is also pretty cool, but a lot of people just want to play switch games; a device that plays switch games exclusively is well suited for the title of “nintendo switch” acems fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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Jul 14, 2019 13:47
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Neddy Seagoon posted:This is where the real push-back actually is; It looks like a lot of people have jumped on it going "BUT IT'S SMALLER AND CHEAPER!
As for its actual size and price? I don't know. I don't think it's realistic to expect a lower MSRP at this point, especially when the 3DS XL is also $199 MSRP. The question is whether the Switch Lite will get a $199 + $35 eShop GC bundle (so an effective $165) for the holiday season or something like that. Size is kind of a point of frustration but I don't know what the answer is. I'm definitely in the camp that the OG Switch is too large (for me) to be truly portable. I love playing it handheld in the house, but I'll sooner take my 3DS or PSP when traveling because they're simply more portable (and I have plenty of backlog on those platforms anyways). The Switch Lite isn't smaller-enough for myself to be interested in it as a take-out-of-the-home handheld, but I'm not sure they could really make it much smaller as the OG Switch already has problems with miniscule UI elements in handheld mode. Still, Nintendo has to do something to introduce a cost-reduced Switch to the market to fill the vacuum created by the discontinuation (or at least, stagnation) of the 3DS and sell more Pokémon.
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Jul 14, 2019 13:49
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Mister Facetious posted:By definition this makes it more accessible to people who might not otherwise be able to afford a Switch. It really doesn’t the value on a 100 off a luxury purchase that doesn’t have the current bundles and probably wont for a while is rather small. It looks like a deal because that’s marketing job.
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Jul 14, 2019 13:52
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CharlestheHammer posted:It really doesn’t the value on a 100 off a luxury purchase that doesn’t have the current bundles and probably wont for a while is rather small. it looks like a deal because not everybody can afford to drop $300, but some can swing $200 sometimes. believe it or not, $100 can be pretty make or break for some people’s ability to make bills or rent, not just in one month but even over many!
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Jul 14, 2019 13:54
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acems posted:it looks like a deal because not everybody can afford to drop $300, but some can swing $200 sometimes. believe it or not, $100 can be pretty make or break for some people’s ability to make bills or rent, not just in one month but even over many! That has nothing to do with luxury purchases but okay. Though even in this scenario the only real difference is you might have to wait a little bit
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Jul 14, 2019 13:55
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CharlestheHammer posted:That has nothing to do with luxury purchases but okay People save their money for luxury purchases
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Jul 14, 2019 13:56
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Andrast posted:People save their money for luxury purchase Yep. Thanks for backing up my point, as you can save money up at any time. You don’t have to purchase anything immediately
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Jul 14, 2019 13:57
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CharlestheHammer posted:That has nothing to do with luxury purchases but okay some of those people might want to buy a switch
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Jul 14, 2019 13:57
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yep. You can apply this for any purchase so I guess the price doesn't matter at all. Might as well go for a $2000 gaming PC
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Jul 14, 2019 13:58
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I bought a yacht that doubles as a giant Nintendo Switch. You can do this too if you save your drat money.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:00
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You loving assholes.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:00
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Andrast posted:You can apply this for any purchase so I guess the price doesn't matter at all. If your aiming for a 1750 then yeah, no reason to cheap out at that point
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Jul 14, 2019 14:02
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CharlestheHammer posted:If your aiming for a 1750 then yeah, no reason to cheap out at that point i get that youve never met poor people before but this is just getting absurd
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Jul 14, 2019 14:03
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Close thread.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:05
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CharlestheHammer posted:If your aiming for a 1750 then yeah, no reason to cheap out at that point Yeah I spent upwards of 1400 on a gaming PC a few years back in parts and in saving up I was sometimes like "hey there's a better part here and it's only like a hundred bucks more" so I just saved a little more because at that point I was already prepared to drop a large amount of cash on that luxury.
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acems posted:it looks like a deal because not everybody can afford to drop $300, but some can swing $200 sometimes. believe it or not, $100 can be pretty make or break for some people’s ability to make bills or rent, not just in one month but even over many! Except that $100 difference isn't necessarily true; That's only the RRP's you're comparing, and I admittedly don't know what the US discounts are like but in Australia it's gotten some pretty decent ones that nearly halved that price difference. And even if both models cop a simultaneous discount, you've still got the prospect of "Well I was saving for a Lite, but the regular model's near/at/cheaper than the price I was going to pay for one". ExcessBLarg! posted:As for its actual size and price? I don't know. I don't think it's realistic to expect a lower MSRP at this point, especially when the 3DS XL is also $199 MSRP. The question is whether the Switch Lite will get a $199 + $35 eShop GC bundle (so an effective $165) for the holiday season or something like that. The 3DS is a false equivalency; The 3DSXL/new3DS was about that price, but it was also the high-end 3DS model with no caveats to gameplay functionality (if anything, the new3DS was the model without them). The Switch Lite is the low end of its own spectrum, and the relevant comparison is between it and its original model. And the original model has some pretty sound arguments to pick it instead.  This is the extent of extra portability you're paying for at $200USD vs a full-sized Switch. A pocket handheld it still is not, and would still live out of your bag like the regular model would. For what a Switch Lite should be, I'd expect something about Vita-size. acems posted:i get that youve never met poor people before but this is just getting absurd The Switch is a luxury item compared to basic necessities. If you're having trouble saving for one vs paying bills and food, you've got more important issues than buying a console that your money should be put towards. Also you're completely ignoring the concepts of budgeting and savings accounts.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:15
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I could spend $300 on a Switch with no games or $300 on a Switch with 2 or 3 games. Which one is a better value proposition?
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Jul 14, 2019 14:16
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Neddy Seagoon posted:
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Jul 14, 2019 14:17
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When Apple had an iPod for every price point from like $50 to $500 I got stuck in an infinite loop of “oh, well for just a little more I get double the space, for a little more I get a better screen, for a little more I get double the space” on up to “I’m not spending $500 on a music player, I’ll just get the cheapest one”.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:19
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So help me understand here. This thread full of Switch owners is mad somehow that there’s a different model of Switch coming out? And that it costs money? You’re all a bunch of shits, you know that?
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Jul 14, 2019 14:19
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Tall Tale Teller posted:So help me understand here. This thread full of Switch owners is mad somehow that there’s a different model of Switch coming out? And that it costs money? Needs care a lot about sticking to original marketing campaigns Also leisure and entertainment are a basic necessity
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Jul 14, 2019 14:24
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Except that $100 difference isn't necessarily true; That's only the RRP's you're comparing, and I admittedly don't know what the US discounts are like but in Australia it's gotten some pretty decent ones that nearly halved that price difference. And even if both models cop a simultaneous discount, you've still got the prospect of "Well I was saving for a Lite, but the regular model's near/at/cheaper than the price I was going to pay for one". I think the point is that in the current American hellscape it can be extremely difficult to squirrel even the slightest amount of money away if you've got student loans, prescriptions to pay for, rent to make or a mortgage to pay, kids, etc, even with good budgeting. I live in an area with a catastrophically hosed job market and I'm not about to "well actually" somebody who sees the feature set of the lite as an acceptable compromise and chooses to save for 4 months instead of 6 or 7. it's not about buying a switch instead of food, it's not that the switch isn't a luxury item, it's that the potential value of features they don't particularly care about is not so great as to deny yourself the comfort of playing a game on your long-rear end commute for another 3 months, assuming no emergencies hit in the mean time. not everybody wants to buy 40 mcnuggets instead of 10 just because they might eat the other 30 someday. e: i get that you're australian but servers in my state get paid $4.25 an hour and not all of them get tipped even decently. the cutoff for that $4.25 wage is getting $20 a month in tips. i know people who make less than $900 a month working 40+ hour weeks. it's pretty hosed out there, so even price equivalency isn't super helpful—that's money that could go to literally anything else, including partially off settng the cost of a game to play on your nintendo swtch, which has no pack-ins. acems fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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Jul 14, 2019 14:27
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I've had my switch for a year and there are a few things im not clear on. can you have two simultaneous downloads going at the same time? Do downloads continue while I play something? Is it like the ps4 where putting the console in sleep mode makes it go faster?
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Jul 14, 2019 14:29
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Tall Tale Teller posted:So help me understand here. This thread full of Switch owners is mad somehow that there’s a different model of Switch coming out? And that it costs money?
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Jul 14, 2019 14:30
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MechaSeinfeld posted:I've had my switch for a year and there are a few things im not clear on. can you have two simultaneous downloads going at the same time? Do downloads continue while I play something? Is it like the ps4 where putting the console in sleep mode makes it go faster?
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MechaSeinfeld posted:I've had my switch for a year and there are a few things im not clear on. can you have two simultaneous downloads going at the same time? Do downloads continue while I play something? Is it like the ps4 where putting the console in sleep mode makes it go faster? they continue if you play a game that uses no online services. it's weird.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:31
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Good Stuff.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:36
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acems posted:they continue if you play a game that uses no online services. it's weird. Not really. It's so it doesn't impede said online services in a nice little clean-cut binary way. Also Nintendo's bad with internet stuff. acems posted:I live in an area with a catastrophically hosed job market and I'm not about to "well actually" somebody who sees the feature set of the lite as an acceptable compromise and chooses to save for 4 months instead of 6 or 7. it's not about buying a switch instead of food, it's not that the switch isn't a luxury item, it's that the potential value of features they don't particularly care about is not so great as to deny yourself the comfort of playing a game on your long-rear end commute for another 3 months, assuming no emergencies hit in the mean time. The thing with any console is it's not a one-and-done purchase. It is fundamentally a long-term investment on your gameplay going forward, and what you choose is going to affect all of that. You also keep ignoring that the RRP is not the end of the story on pricing; Both models have and will cop discounts, and if you're already looking at a Switch Lite price-point and an original Switch can (and will) land near that on a decent sale there's not much reason to stick with the inferior model. Even if the argument is "well I can get a Lite and X games for this price", you can get a Switch now for that price and get the same games later while still having the better model for the long-run.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The thing with any console is it's not a one-and-done purchase. It is fundamentally a long-term investment on your gameplay going forward, and what you choose is going to affect all of that. You also keep ignoring that the RRP is not the end of the story on pricing; Both models have and will cop discounts, and if you're already looking at a Switch Lite price-point and an original Switch can (and will) land near that on a decent sale there's not much reason to stick with the inferior model. Even if the argument is "well I can get a Lite and X games for this price", you can get a Switch now for that price and get the same games later while still having the better model for the long-run. i bet you're a hit at parties. an extra $30 can mean more than a month of extra saving for more people than you know! that sale might be over by then, and a lot of people buy this stuff retail for easier return policies, etc. anyway, are there any other party games that scratch the same creative itch as ultimate chicken horse? i'm really into creative antagonism as of late and i need more. acems fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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