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asecondduck posted:Does Bebop do a lot of parody/deconstruction of anime? I honestly don't know, I don't know enough anime. No. Bebop has/makes zero recognition of being an anime show, and is much more about cinema genres. One of the episodes is basically a 30-minutes distillation of Alien, and the character plot that (arguably) bookends the series is a major homage to yakuza films.
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Rhyno posted:Look what you made me do <3
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"Haunted by the ghost of Marilyn Monroe, possessed by Fred Flintstone."
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Tropical Storm Barry was supposed to hit here today and it didn't, so I've been binging Barry. Just finished the episode in season 2 with Barry fighting the guy who's sleeping with the police guy's ex-wife who's a Tae Kwon Do master with a daughter he trains who Barry calls a "feral mongoose". Holy poo poo, that was some of the best physical comedy I've seen in a long time Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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Anyone who liked Friday Night Lights should very much check out season 3 of Last Chance U on Netflix. It's really really great
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 03:01 |
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Throw on some Boondocks and decide to google see what McGruder is up to. A REBOOT OF THE SHOW WAS ANNOUNCED LAST MONTH! Day made.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 03:17 |
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Full reboot, or just making more episodes?
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 03:20 |
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Lycus posted:Full reboot, or just making more episodes? Reboot, it sounds like the new version will have Uncle Ruckus as the main villain.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 03:33 |
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I wonder if he's still a 9/11 truther or if he's only gotten worse over the past decade.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 03:58 |
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9/11 conspiracies are almost tame now. I mean, compared to Flat Earthers and QAnon and anti-vaxxers and Sandy Hook truthers and Area 51-storming disclosure and lizard people....
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zoux posted:If tons of people weren't watching anime on Netflix, I doubt they'd keep ordering new series. Who the hell knows why netflix does poo poo. MiddleOne posted:Like off the top of my head, Netflix has: At the risk of getting into a very tedious argument about semantics, I don't see how people who don't like anime are going to like those first animes any more than those other animes.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 04:42 |
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Because anime is a style not a genre
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 05:23 |
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Is it anime if it isn't Japanese. I looked at the IMDB for Castlevania and I don't see any Japanese names credited.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 05:34 |
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anime is a state of mind
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precision posted:Because anime is a style not a genre What if someone doesn't like the style.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 05:37 |
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Erased and Aggretsuko do have legit crossover appeal, tho
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 05:38 |
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The argument of what is anime and what isn't is the second most intolerable argument after the debates over what band falls into a sub-category of metal music.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 06:08 |
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I saw the Lost pilot again for some reason. It's still really good. No production values can match just filming in Hawaii.
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Arist posted:Erased and Aggretsuko do have legit crossover appeal, tho When your show is made by a stationery company whose entire business is built around making mascot characters that are laser-focused to appeal to demographics that is to be expected.
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 06:38 |
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no seriously, why do you post like this
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 06:40 |
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Lurdiak posted:At the risk of getting into a very tedious argument about semantics, I don't see how people who don't like anime are going to like those first animes any more than those other animes. All of the shows I put below (with Death Note probably being the only arguable one) are tough stickers because they are stories that could either have never been anything but an anime or manga, that for one reason or another has barriers to entry or that are literally just a shounen story. Of course it's just my opinion but Erased, Aggretsuko and even One Punch Man and Saiki K are laser-focused shows that do one thing and do it very well without relying on the watcher being able to stomach anime genre conventions. I could never say that about something like Code Geass, which no matter how much teenage me loved it, is a show that is all over the place. But we don't have to get into an argument about the semantics of it, it's just my opinion and I pre-faced it the way I did because it ever so slightly increased the chance that one more person might get introduced to a show like Saiki K and its surrealist humour or Aggretsuko and it's depiction of being a young adult in a soul-crunching workplace.
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That is a very sensible answer and my curiosity has been satisfied.
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Finally sat and watched Chernobyl. Amazing indeed, unbelievably tense the entire way through, although bearable. I was worried it'd be worse (as in, harder to watch) based on some of the things said in this thread. Overall just so well done.precision posted:Because anime is a style not a genre Its a medium, not a style or a genre. There is also a common style within anime, but not all anime follows that style at all.
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Lurdiak posted:At the risk of getting into a very tedious argument about semantics, I don't see how people who don't like anime are going to like those first animes any more than those other animes. No its definitely a thing. Its like, some British shows are more palatable to American audiences, where some are more distinctly British in tone or humor or content. Does that make sense? Similarly, some anime is just great shows that happens to be anime. But other anime is very particularly Japanese in its style or humor, and those things are going to turn off some American audiences not used to them. But other anime that isn't as strongly into that style of humor will appeal more.
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Mu Zeta posted:I saw the Lost pilot again for some reason. It's still really good. No production values can match just filming in Hawaii. At the time my entire family and my girlfriend were obsessed by Lost but it's just a show I couldn't get into. I'd be curious to watch it at some point, given just how big it still looms in the cultural consciousness, being to TV what the MCU is to movies,* and given that Abrams movie career basically is a result of it. I think the only episodes I've seen are the pilot, the Constant, and some late show episode with Allison Janney that I think set up the backstory of a main character? I actually thought all three were very good, even though I was a bit lost (no pun intended) on the latter two. Though apparently those three are also highly regarded episodes in general? *Actually as I was typing this, are shows copying Lost still a thing? I know for a real long time it seemed like every show was trying to copy its mystery format, but I feel like in the last few years the TV landscape has kind of moved beyond it finally.
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FX+ is being shutdown by Disney, FX Now will continue operating. FX+ will be replaced by FX shows just being on Hulu. https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/14/disney-fx-plus-shutdown/
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Chairman Capone posted:*Actually as I was typing this, are shows copying Lost still a thing? I know for a real long time it seemed like every show was trying to copy its mystery format, but I feel like in the last few years the TV landscape has kind of moved beyond it finally. Several current shows like The Handmaid's Tale and Orange is the New Black still follow its (brilliant) episode structure for character development.
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Chairman Capone posted:*Actually as I was typing this, are shows copying Lost still a thing? I know for a real long time it seemed like every show was trying to copy its mystery format, but I feel like in the last few years the TV landscape has kind of moved beyond it finally. All the Lost copycats failed because they didn’t understand what made Lost great. Having a huge mystery doesn’t count for anything if you don’t have compelling characters and a good week to week plot.
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Anime has a stigma because, as someone who enjoys Attack on Titan, we've had several pages of ~anime discussion~ that hasn't really discussed a single show, only genre conventions and what it means to be anime... It's really pedantic to have a discussion purely about genre tropes and whether people will enjoy/dislike those without ever mentioning the actual merits of any of the shows...
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Every time I try to talk about good non traditional anime like Bartender or Honey and Clover literally nobody responds
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less laughter posted:Several current shows like The Handmaid's Tale and Orange is the New Black still follow its (brilliant) episode structure for character development. I was actually thinking about this--Lost couldn't have been the first TV show to do that structure, right? It seems so obvious and, let's face it, a little lazy (but, due to execution, was also brilliant). But I can't think of another show that did it regularly, so...
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asecondduck posted:I was actually thinking about this--Lost couldn't have been the first TV show to do that structure, right? It seems so obvious and, let's face it, a little lazy (but, due to execution, was also brilliant). Shows like Northern Exposure and thirtysomething were the big pioneers of that style. My So Called Life did it too. Edit: Picket Fences too precision fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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precision posted:Honey and Clover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl6-mXjNqbQ
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 18:49 |
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Blocked in my country, but a show's opening credits aren't necessarily a reflection on the show. It's a slice of life dramedy about art school students.
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What is the "Lost structure for character development"? Flashbacks to inform context?
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Watched episode 1 of Too Old To Die Young. Man, that seemed to last for so long. I should've known given it's Refn and I'm familiar with his pacing. But I have 9 more episodes of this??? Also was the theme of the first episode ACAB? Because I already believe that IRL and the show's just selling it even more!
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Bruceski posted:What is the "Lost structure for character development"? Flashbacks to inform context? Throw spaghetti at the wall until your character arcs bend around into a full circle.
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Rageaholic posted:Watched episode 1 of Too Old To Die Young. Man, that seemed to last for so long. I should've known given it's Refn and I'm familiar with his pacing. But I have 9 more episodes of this??? Please keep posting your reactions in here
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# ? Jul 14, 2019 19:43 |
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Bruceski posted:What is the "Lost structure for character development"? Flashbacks to inform context? I think more it's the way every episode focuses on one person or perspective to slowly give you more context about the characters. Like I said, Northern Exposure was great about doing that
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The flashbacks just made it very explicit which character is being focused on for that episode.
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