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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries? This poll is closed. |
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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Ruminahui posted:Why not just, you know, FORCE them to loving do it. Because job creators are extremely skittish. You dont want to scare them away.
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Luckyellow posted:Because job creators are extremely skittish. You dont want to scare them away. Mentioned "inheritance tax" and "worker owned means of production" to a job creator and he up and died.
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Jul 14, 2019 22:36
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Ruminahui posted:Why not just, you know, FORCE them to loving do it. I was literally responding to a poster who asked for alternatives to forcing them. joepinetree posted:A lot of research has shown that the college bonus (the amount, on average, that college graduates make more than the general population) is directly tied to how expensive and rare it is to get a college degree. Yes, I agree college should be free. I also think that we should go FURTHER and work to offer significant alternatives to college as well (also free) that are accessible to those without the four year commitment. I'm not arguing against free college here. Z. Autobahn fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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Jul 14, 2019 22:42
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Z. Autobahn posted:Also are we literally lumping any attempt to motivate business through tax incentives as 'numbers fuckstein'?
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Jul 14, 2019 22:46
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Z. Autobahn posted:I was literally responding to a poster who asked for alternatives to forcing them. There is no alternative. Business owners get one thing and one thing only- pain 
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Jul 14, 2019 22:48
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Ok for those supporting Tax Credits to Businesses as a form of social policy, what's your best historical success? I don't think tax credits for businesses were a big part of the civil rights movement, the ADA certainly isn't tax credit based, etc. So I'm curious what's the historical basis for thinking they'd be successful.
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Jul 14, 2019 22:51
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Any attempt to motivate business that isn't confiscating control and ownership of that business and handing it to the people who work there is numbers-fucksteinism, yes. I had no idea Bernie Sanders was such a numbers fuckstein 
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Z. Autobahn posted:I had no idea Bernie Sanders was such a numbers fuckstein More like number fuckstein, and the number is zero.
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Jul 14, 2019 23:13
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Z. Autobahn posted:I had no idea Bernie Sanders was such a numbers fuckstein
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Candidates I would be willing to vote for as the Democratic nominee for president: Bernie Sanders, Marianne Williamson
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Trabisnikof posted:Ok for those supporting Tax Credits to Businesses as a form of social policy, what's your best historical success? The historical success is that it frames all positive change as only being possible through a tax system. The lead result is that whenever the public wants something done or address, that petition of government can easily be dismissed with "how will you pay for it?" under the undeniable given that taxes would go up. So the historical success, specifically is that it funnels money to the rich. Which is the actual goal. Pardon me for answering for those tax credits mcfucksteins.
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Jul 14, 2019 23:43
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Luckyellow posted:Because job creators are extremely skittish. You dont want to scare them away. There is no such thing as a job creator.
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Jul 14, 2019 23:47
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Lol why on earth shouldn’t employers consider educational background in hiring decisions? Left wing anti-intellectualism strikes again.
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Ogmius815 posted:Lol why on earth shouldn’t employers consider educational background in hiring decisions? Left wing anti-intellectualism strikes again. sir this is an arby's (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The Muppets On PCP posted:sir this is an arby's On the very last page someone suggested it should be an illegal hiring practice to prefer candidates with a degree. Seriously?
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Ogmius815 posted:On the very last page someone suggested it should be an illegal hiring practice to prefer candidates with a degree. Seriously? Yeah but they're also proposing tax credits for walmart so maybe dont blame the left for that one.
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Jul 14, 2019 23:58
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Ogmius815 posted:On the very last page someone suggested it should be an illegal hiring practice to prefer candidates with a degree. Seriously? I would rather employers prefer those of "worker" class backgrounds over a brainwashed liberal graduated from liberal brainwashing machine known as universities (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Typo posted:I would rather employers prefer those of "worker" class backgrounds over a brainwashed liberal graduated from liberal brainwashing machine known as universities 
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https://twitter.com/SAVoltolin/status/1150208226228625408 They are hated by all! NO MORE DNC Candidates. Warren must fully support the left or face the same fate as Delaney!
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Jul 15, 2019 00:31
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lmao jesus christ the only reason I brought up tax incentives was in direct response to a post saying "If we can't force employers, what else can we do", and even then it was in the context of "would be a start". I am not arguing it's a robust solution or an ideal solution or the desired solution. I literally said "It's a start [if other plans are non-viable]." I support free college and think the left candidates don't go far enough in terms of radical solutions to dismantle the incredibly broken college institution, everyone calm downOgmius815 posted:On the very last page someone suggested it should be an illegal hiring practice to prefer candidates with a degree. Seriously? I said "for most jobs", and I stand by that. It's reasonable to want your doctor to have gone to medical school. There is absolutely no good reason you should need a college education to be an entry-level administrative assistant or data-entry clerk or any of a million non-manual non-service careers. Mandating or preferring college graduates for these jobs serves to exclude the huge swath of qualified applicants who can't afford college, either in terms of time or money or both, and transforms college into a class gate-keeping model to ensure only upper-middle-class-or-higher kids are qualified for even the simplest of entry-level white collar positions. The primary metric for hiring should be "is this person qualified for this job?" Knowing whether or not they spent four years chilling in a dorm, getting blazed, and sleeping through Sociology 101 does not tell me whether or not a candidate is qualified to work front-desk reception. "Preferring candidates with a degree" in any job where the direct skillset is not related to the degree is 100% code for "Preferring middle-class or higher applicants" Z. Autobahn fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Jul 15, 2019 00:33
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How much of rules regarding writing prescriptions is private professional associations like the AMA and how much is written law?
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Jul 15, 2019 00:38
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Which candidate will release the first Mario Maker stage
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Jul 15, 2019 00:48
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Ruminahui posted:Why not just, you know, FORCE them to loving do it. Liberalism, op. The why for the terrible decision is always Liberalism.
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Ogmius815 posted:Lol why on earth shouldn’t employers consider educational background in hiring decisions? Left wing anti-intellectualism strikes again. 1) the amount of student loan debt someone is in is abusable by an employer: a more deeply indebted employee is less likely to quit on short notice, ruffle feathers, ask for a raise, and so on 2) what level of left wing anti-intellectualism are you on?? "Employers can't discriminate by social class signifiers like bachelors degrees"???? you are like a little baby. Watch this: pol pot did nothing wrong
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Jul 15, 2019 00:59
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I do think employers should be allowed to refuse to hire MBAs.
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Jul 15, 2019 01:07
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Yeah libertarian paternalism is the absolute loving worst. It combines using the power of the state to make people do poo poo, which is something people will naturally resist unless there is a clear and obvious reason and benefit for it (which libertarian paternalism never provides), with the notion of raising taxes to accomplish goals, which Americans have also been conditioned to hate with the fury of one million suns. It's what you get when some busybody "wonk" rear end in a top hat hits on the idea of funding literally everything with vice taxes.
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Jul 15, 2019 01:16
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Okay my tax plan is we take 50% of all the money, as determined by whom has the most of it, if you're making less you dont ever pay taxes. The IRS is now configured like the Kaiju monitoring center from Pacific Rim.
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crazy cloud posted:1) the amount of student loan debt someone is in is abusable by an employer: a more deeply indebted employee is less likely to quit on short notice, ruffle feathers, ask for a raise, and so on 
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i mean you realize half of that is loving with you because you accused people of being anti-intellectual for saying that requiring a degree is, by and large, bullshit, right
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Yeah, in all seriousness, Pol Pot made 1 or 2 missteps. I know that's not a popular opinion, but to stay on topic, Bernie could learn a lot from the example.
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Jul 15, 2019 01:27
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Without credentialism how will I know how much I'm worth
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Liberals have lost their authority on being the moral voice that fights for the oppressed. Those of us awake to it are not putting up with your poo poo anymore. You’re not going to shame us into supporting right wing capitalist democrats. gently caress these rich and middle class cowards who uphold capitalism because they’re afraid of losing the position they’ve been allowed to attain at the expense of poor folks being exploited and subjugated to excessive and cruel living conditions. Anyone who tries to fight for the lower class is censored, suppressed, and marginalized by these entitled bourgeois liberals that don’t give a gently caress about us. gently caress. Centrists.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:i mean you realize half of that is loving with you because you accused people of being anti-intellectual for saying that requiring a degree is, by and large, bullshit, right really makes you question the value of a college education in the first place
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Calibanibal posted:Without credentialism how will I know how much I'm worth The realest Calibanibal post itt.
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Yeah white people without college degrees are well known for their rational decision making and forward thinking attitudes. I think we should have more of them, and in positions of power too!
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Ogmius815 posted:Yeah white people without college degrees are well known for their rational decision making and forward thinking attitudes. I think we should have more of them, and in positions of power too! college just produces lanyard "centrist ghouls" who don't give a poo poo about poor and minorities who vote for fascists like warren and harris instead of bernie and college degrees are worthless for being good at jobs anyway I think we should really increase the cost of college so fewer people gets turned into centrist lanyard ghouls and we would have more support for good candidates like williamson and bernie
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Jul 15, 2019 02:23
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Ogmius815 posted:Yeah white people without college degrees are well known for their rational decision making and forward thinking attitudes. I think we should have more of them, and in positions of power too! you're an insufferable moron that takes everything anyone says in bad faith and pretends not to understand what they're talking about shut the gently caress up already you piece of poo poo (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Ogmius815 posted:Yeah white people without college degrees are well known for their rational decision making and forward thinking attitudes. I think we should have more of them, and in positions of power too! Who said positions of power I can't get an entry level data entry job because I don't have a degree, despite a degree not actually being necessary Stop reading "most" and assuming 'all" you twit
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Ogmius815 posted:Yeah white people without college degrees are well known for their rational decision making and forward thinking attitudes. I think we should have more of them, and in positions of power too! Of course this points out that your position is that we should benefit people with college degrees who are disproportionately not black, hispanic or native america. You're convincing me that maybe we should ban asking for educational status for more positions.
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