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fawning deference posted:Surprised about the conflict on Hughes - do people not think he'll be a PPG player? If so, why is it so early to select an 18 year old PPG center? Or 70 pt center who could get up 85-90 pts in 2 or 3 years? Am I overestimating his production? I think most people assume he will be but there's players around that aren't much older than him that are PPG players now. Aho for example is just a few years older and is a known elite player. Hughes should end up being that but it might take him a few years to get to the level Aho is already at.
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While there are a couple wingers I could also grab at this position, I'm going to be selecting Mitchell Marner. He's 22, coming off of an incredibly impressive season, and while he may not break 100 pts (though I hope he does), he definitely will totally throw a wrench into my cap situation!
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Jul 15, 2019 14:32
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Ignore me fixed my problem getting ready for a gimmick pick
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Jul 15, 2019 14:51
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Well, everybody's taking centers, so clearly the most logical thing for me to do is to take a defenseman! I'm taking the best defenseman in the NHL with my first pick for the third year in a row. That's right, it's Victor Hedman.
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Jul 15, 2019 15:09
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JOHNNY GAUDREAU let's FUCKIN GO LA KANGS, COWARDS
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Jul 15, 2019 15:57
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Jonathan Fisk posted:Yeah I said that thinking he was 40-50 for some reason He's definitely a tier above where they were coming in based on his USHL production. He's in the Matthews/MacKinnon tier in production (2 PPG in the USHL over two seasons) which aims him at 60 points if healthy. 50-60 with an upper limit of 70ish is where I see him.
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Jul 15, 2019 16:10
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Due Up: Jonathan Fisk (12:57 EST) stab WeaponX VOTE1 i am the bird
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I’ll go high potential and take Rasmus Dahlin.
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Jul 15, 2019 16:35
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So many choices ugh Being a member of HAS, this hurts John Tavares
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Jul 15, 2019 17:09
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Ginette Reno posted:I think most people assume he will be but there's players around that aren't much older than him that are PPG players now. Aho for example is just a few years older and is a known elite player. I'm going for a longer game I guess? And I think people are under-estimating Hughes, I think he gets to PPG by the 20-21 season. I tend to draft these teams young, fast, and cheap. I totally get that guys like Marner and Aho are super young and already elite players, but again, I did want a center, and the only other center I considered taking was Schiefele, but I'd rather have the 18 year-old on an ELC who could wind up being the same type of player. Even if he's just below as a 70-pt player, that still works for me.
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stab posted:So many choices ugh that there are no Canadiens worth taking in the first round?
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I’ll go high potential and take Rasmus Dahlin. That's earlier than I was expecting for him but this is where he deserves to go.
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Jul 15, 2019 17:32
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I’ll probably regret it when I look at my 1-2 centers but he’s got a higher ceiling than anyone else left
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Jul 15, 2019 17:41
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The San Jose Sharks select with the 21st pick Artemi Panarin I heard he likes the ocean or something....
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fawning deference posted:I'm going for a longer game I guess? And I think people are under-estimating Hughes, I think he gets to PPG by the 20-21 season. I tend to draft these teams young, fast, and cheap. I totally get that guys like Marner and Aho are super young and already elite players, but again, I did want a center, and the only other center I considered taking was Schiefele, but I'd rather have the 18 year-old on an ELC who could wind up being the same type of player. Even if he's just below as a 70-pt player, that still works for me. I still don't understand the logic of picking an 18-year-old who might in three years turn out to be as good as the 21-to-25 year olds you passed on (some of whom are still available for some reason). I took Yak City in the early third round back in the first draft and it might be the worst pick I've ever made. Never again.
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I think he could be as good as those guys within 2 years. The logic is he makes 925K for the next 3 years and I think I can get an established elite guy with my next pick anyway. I also thought SAS valued Hughes more and that he would go by the 20-25 picks of the first round and I wanted him on my team? I guess I would take Marner if I could do it again but I was at work and wanted Hughes and thought taking a potential franchise player who's only 18 and on an ELC wasn't a terrible waste of a pick. Also Yakupov was the weakest 1st overall in recent memory. Jack Hughes is not going to be a bust. There's no way. fawning deference fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Drunk Canuck posted:JOHNNY GAUDREAU drat i wanted to make a team of entirely short people so now I've gotta rethink my gimmick
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Jul 15, 2019 18:14
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fawning deference posted:I'm going for a longer game I guess? And I think people are under-estimating Hughes, I think he gets to PPG by the 20-21 season. I tend to draft these teams young, fast, and cheap. I totally get that guys like Marner and Aho are super young and already elite players, but again, I did want a center, and the only other center I considered taking was Schiefele, but I'd rather have the 18 year-old on an ELC who could wind up being the same type of player. Even if he's just below as a 70-pt player, that still works for me. Yeah I get the rationale, but except for the ELC factor, Aho (for example) is literally already the center you describe wanting Hughes to evolve into. I don't think picking him in the first round is that big of a deal, Matthews went in the middle of the first of his draft year in that iteration of the thread, but I do think you passed on a lot of better options for the immediate and arguably long-term future. Not that "long term" matters in this draft beyond what-if scenarios or someone decides to sim multiple seasons.
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Jul 15, 2019 18:27
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Sent a message to VOTE1 to pick whenever he's ready. Time zone difference complicates things. IATB will be up at 2:56 EST
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Jul 15, 2019 18:33
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For some reason, I had this starting later this week. Whoops. Detroit takes Elias Petterson
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El Gallinero Gros (5:30 EST) Yaya mentholmoose Zodijackylite Boomer the Cannon VOTE1 owes one pick.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:13
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The Calgary Flames select Alexander Ovechkin
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I'm checking in late after work here but uhhh.... what the hell happened at the top of the draft?
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Jul 15, 2019 22:00
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The Winnipeg Jets select Brayden Point because hes pretty good at playing hockey.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:11
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The Calgary Flames select Alexander Ovechkin gently caress you I'll take Patrice Bergeron in the first for the second straight year I guess mentholmoose is up
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Jul 15, 2019 22:12
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Hurry up ya scrubs I want to make my bad picks tonight
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Jul 15, 2019 22:21
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ThinkTank posted:I'm checking in late after work here but uhhh.... what the hell happened at the top of the draft? Hoot the Owl happened 
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ThinkTank posted:I'm checking in late after work here but uhhh.... what the hell happened at the top of the draft? I dunno but I’m not complaining. The gimmick this year will be to pick a good team.
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Jordan7hm posted:The gimmick this year will be to pick a good team. meh. seen it before. 2/10 gimmick imo
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Jul 15, 2019 23:21
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Hey I'm gonna take one of the best two-way centers in hockey, a multiple time 30 goal scorer and extreme fancy stats darling, Sean Couturier.
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mentholmoose posted:Hey I'm gonna take one of the best two-way centers in hockey, a multiple time 30 goal scorer and extreme fancy stats darling, Sean Couturier. I thought he was extremely overrated his first few years in the league but he has really grown into a good player, as much as I hate to admit it.
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mentholmoose posted:Hey I'm gonna take one of the best two-way centers in hockey, a multiple time 30 goal scorer and extreme fancy stats darling, Sean Couturier. How am I supposed to pick him for the third year in a row now? 
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The Washington Capitals select Mikko Rantanen. Age 22, PPG+ for two years now, and a dominant offensive player in general.
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Jul 16, 2019 00:39
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Boomer the Cannon you're up don't take my guy
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Oh hey we might get through the first round tonight, not bad. Next up: Boomer the Cannon (until 9:39 PM EST) Good Soldier Svejk ThinkTank Thufir (x2)
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https://i.imgur.com/sI539jG.mp4 David Pastrnak has sick dangles and a sicker contract. He's definitely the sort of player who can take over a game on his own (not to say he doesn't have help) and will be good for years to come. Some people say you can't build around a winger but gently caress that look at those dangles
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Honestly I'm surprised it took Pastrnak this long to go. He's a lock for 30+ and 80ish points, young, and on arguably the best deal in the NHL relative to what he does. only knock on him is he's a winger I guess.
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Next up: ThinkTank (until 11:40 PM EST) Thufir (x2) ThinkTank Good Soldier Svejk Skipped: Boomer the Cannon (x1)
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ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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