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Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
murder the landlords and distribute homes

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yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

hi thread, i just wanted to say ho chi minh did nothing wrong

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

two words that should strike fear in every landlord: "rent control" "land reform"

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
How the gently caress can landlords be legally allowed to ban pets in the US? Land of the free indeed.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Hedenius posted:

How the gently caress can landlords be legally allowed to ban pets in the US? Land of the free indeed.

I'm guessing its a combination of liability (perceived or actual, and/or some insurance requirements) and that, for most coastal US cities the demand is far exceeding housing supply such that it's a landlord's buffet in that if they can ask $2200 a month and theres 100 people willing (or pent-up demand in that would-be) to pay that without a pet then why bother taking the risk of potential damage (piss/scratches/etc) and complaints to take someone in who has a dog? pets become more acceptable where there's less demand and you just want a tenant to fill poo poo up and not enough willing to accept or pay the terms.

if they do take dogs, a fair amount say "dogs smaller than 25 lbs only" / "dogs ok but no pit/rotts/matiffs / cat only"

imo 'pet rent' should be loving illegal, a lot of apartments will charge you a $10-$100/mon extra fee to have a pet. fortunately, mine was only a $200 pet deposit and no additional rent.

Xaris has issued a correction as of 08:55 on Jul 14, 2019

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Xaris posted:

imo 'pet rent' should be loving illegal, a lot of apartments will charge you a $10-$100/mon extra fee to have a pet. fortunately, mine was only a $200 pet deposit and no additional rent.

it absolutely should be. i refused to even look at any listing that charged pet rent. when i was talking to the rental management company to sign the lease they were like "you know you don't have to pay the $400 pet deposit! you can pay $40 pet rent instead!" and i hit them with the flattest "no thanks" i could possibly muster

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Xaris posted:

I'm guessing its a combination of liability (perceived or actual, and/or some insurance requirements) and that, for most coastal US cities the demand is far exceeding housing supply such that it's a landlord's buffet in that if they can ask $2200 a month and theres 100 people willing (or pent-up demand in that would-be) to pay that without a pet then why bother taking the risk of potential damage (piss/scratches/etc) and complaints to take someone in who has a dog? pets become more acceptable where there's less demand and you just want a tenant to fill poo poo up and not enough willing to accept or pay the terms.

if they do take dogs, a fair amount say "dogs smaller than 25 lbs only" / "dogs ok but no pit/rotts/matiffs / cat only"

imo 'pet rent' should be loving illegal, a lot of apartments will charge you a $10-$100/mon extra fee to have a pet. fortunately, mine was only a $200 pet deposit and no additional rent.

I saw a roommate wanted ad that asked for an extra $250 dollars a month, I called them to confirm they was real then told them to go gently caress themselves.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
I guess ontario has some decent tenant protections: security deposits are illegal and landlords can only require first and last months rent up front. its illegal not to rent to someone based on having pets, although landlords will ask if you have any all you have to do is lie and move them in later and there's nothing they can do about it.

My poo poo landlord story is this: i have two cats and the last apartment I rented had carpet in one place only, the stairs. Well the cat scratched it up pretty good and the landlord got all huffy and wanted me to pay $300 to replace the carpet when I moved out after 3 years.

This was AFTER finding them new tenants who were friends of mine, and were willing to pay $400 more a month in increased rent. I told the landlords to gently caress off and said it was ridiculous to make me pay for new carpet when I did their job for them and they're going to be making thousands of dollars more a year from me moving out. They got pissy said "oh the increased rent is irrelevant" etc.. etc.. so I broke off all communication with them and did not pay them one loving cent. gently caress those greedy assholes.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
Colorado's lack of rent control is going to really start to hurt as wages for tech jobs start their Marxian decline. My friend who was living in Wheat Ridge had her landlord raise the rent 600 dollars a month and she spent about 2 months looking for other places, finding nothing better, and saying gently caress it and asking to be transferred to her company's Lexington, Ky office.

The landlord, who apparently has major personal money issues, has yet to find a new tenant

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Hedenius posted:

How the gently caress can landlords be legally allowed to ban pets in the US? Land of the free indeed.

It's the USA right - so basically when push comes to shove property rights trump literally everything else. It's the landlord's property and they get to be the feudal dictator and that's it. CA has *some few* protections for tenant's and it is considered eViL sOcIaLiSt country to these people. By some few protections I just mean stuff like "they have to give you notice before they enter the unit."

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Hedenius posted:

How the gently caress can landlords be legally allowed to ban pets in the US? Land of the free indeed.

us law doesn't have much in the way of special protections for pets

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



pathetic little tramp posted:

Colorado's lack of rent control is going to really start to hurt as wages for tech jobs start their Marxian decline. My friend who was living in Wheat Ridge had her landlord raise the rent 600 dollars a month and she spent about 2 months looking for other places, finding nothing better, and saying gently caress it and asking to be transferred to her company's Lexington, Ky office.

The landlord, who apparently has major personal money issues, has yet to find a new tenant

Longmont, had three places fall through within the last three weeks of my lease, now I’m living in a shithole with messed up carpets and a HVAC system that’s trying to self-destruct and some doors that won’t latch and others that stick because I was running out of time at a friend’s house. This guy had been trying to rent it for months with no luck, maybe it’s because he’s asking about $200 over the market rate for a room when the place is a barely-inhabitable mess right next to the train tracks.

at least it’s only a six month lease so if I get this new job I can pay way too much for a place that isn’t a dump instead and I’ll be looking in the winter when the market isn’t as hot.

and thanks to climate change it doesn’t start snowing until January or February so I’ll just have to wear layers, not move in a foot of snow.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
You can have any dog you want as long as it's a cat.- me as a landlord

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007

Hedenius posted:

How the gently caress can landlords be legally allowed to ban pets in the US? Land of the free indeed.

the only american value is attaining and protecting the value of capital and the legal system reflects this

I got the tude now
Jul 22, 2007

Big Dick Cheney posted:

i hate the landlords. i will hate them as long as they live

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Xaris posted:

I'm guessing its a combination of liability (perceived or actual, and/or some insurance requirements) and that, for most coastal US cities the demand is far exceeding housing supply such that it's a landlord's buffet in that if they can ask $2200 a month and theres 100 people willing (or pent-up demand in that would-be) to pay that without a pet then why bother taking the risk of potential damage (piss/scratches/etc) and complaints to take someone in who has a dog? pets become more acceptable where there's less demand and you just want a tenant to fill poo poo up and not enough willing to accept or pay the terms.

if they do take dogs, a fair amount say "dogs smaller than 25 lbs only" / "dogs ok but no pit/rotts/matiffs / cat only"

imo 'pet rent' should be loving illegal, a lot of apartments will charge you a $10-$100/mon extra fee to have a pet. fortunately, mine was only a $200 pet deposit and no additional rent.

My first apartment had a pet fee that we legit forgot about when we got our rescue cat. They found out we had him six months later and gave us a letter saying hey come pay the fee and we'll call it square

Never paid. Cat wasn't on the lease a couple months later when we resigned, either. Lmao owned.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Moridin920 posted:

It's the USA right - so basically when push comes to shove property rights trump literally everything else. It's the landlord's property and they get to be the feudal dictator and that's it. CA has *some few* protections for tenant's and it is considered eViL sOcIaLiSt country to these people. By some few protections I just mean stuff like "they have to give you notice before they enter the unit."

It's also because in the US in typical fashion there's a complete lack of balances, I know in Europe groups like tenant organizations tend to be much stronger and in things like the Vienna model for housing tenants have more rights compared to the lovely US systems.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
Living in numerous apartment buildings with dogs above me absolutely sucked so I don't really care if they're banned most places. Of all the poo poo things landlords do it's dead last in evil

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

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mastershakeman posted:

Living in numerous apartment buildings with dogs above me absolutely sucked so I don't really care if they're banned most places. Of all the poo poo things landlords do it's dead last in evil

Take back what you said about dogs

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1146508448235790336
https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1150497976323756032

Hevo
Jul 8, 2015

I had a landlord once who'd completely ignore all of his tenants. If you had a problem you could call him for days, and he'd never answer or return any calls. He didn't have an email address, and he didn't answer any physical post you'd send him.

One day in December my boiler broke down. I was calling him every day for 3-4 weeks, and he'd never answer. When I got home from work one day he was just stood outside my door, saying he had heard my voice messages. He never apologised for having ignored me, he just went inside, had a look at the boiler, and said he'd come back the next day with a replacement. He came back two weeks later and had it replaced. So that's six weeks without hot water, in the middle of winter.

On top of that, he had a garbage pile in the backyard, just outside my kitchen window. He'd swing by once every other month to throw new stuff on it – rusty oil drums, rotten wood, broken roof tiling, plastic bags, cracked tyres, old car batteries; even a loving shopping cart once!

To this day I don't know why I didn't get the tenants union involved with him. The place is empty nowadays though, so I can only hope that the people who moved in after me got him off the market.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
JuSt OpEn ThE dOoR





Photoshopping dogs out of photos like Stalin to get a place to rent

I know your bro brutally killed himself, but look I have a business to run

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

holy poo poo this one wins at being the worst

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



So close to realizing how terrible he's being, then not quite.

How is someone dying in the house not in there with domestic violence etc in terms of automatically allowing you to terminate the lease? Or is that not even universal in all states?

...It's not universal in all states, is it? :smith:

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
you assume the rules are written by people with any sense of decency

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



True. I guess I should be happy that it's not illegal to leave a lease just because the other person on the lease is beating you and you left with a restraining order.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Fun fact: In Arkansas, the tenants' rights laws are so bad, you can go to loving jail for late rent

https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/02/05/arkansas-tenants-face-prosecution-over-rent-problems

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

PostNouveau posted:

Fun fact: In Arkansas, the tenants' rights laws are so bad, you can go to loving jail for late rent

https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/02/05/arkansas-tenants-face-prosecution-over-rent-problems

Extremely cool that debtor's prisons are still a thing

Jabarto
Apr 7, 2007

I could do with your...assistance.

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Longmont, had three places fall through within the last three weeks of my lease, now I’m living in a shithole with messed up carpets and a HVAC system that’s trying to self-destruct and some doors that won’t latch and others that stick because I was running out of time at a friend’s house. This guy had been trying to rent it for months with no luck, maybe it’s because he’s asking about $200 over the market rate for a room when the place is a barely-inhabitable mess right next to the train tracks.

at least it’s only a six month lease so if I get this new job I can pay way too much for a place that isn’t a dump instead and I’ll be looking in the winter when the market isn’t as hot.

and thanks to climate change it doesn’t start snowing until January or February so I’ll just have to wear layers, not move in a foot of snow.

Sup fellow Longmont goon. :hf:

I'm honestly thinking of following my parents out to Nevada just to get away from this poo poo. And I'm actually relatively lucky (less than a grand a month for a one-bedroom).

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I've seriously considered Wyoming or something. Still close to home, less stupid expensive. Or up in the mountains far enough from the ski resorts that it's not horrible. Probably depends on where the few people I know end up moving in the next few years though, as pathetic as that sounds. Current known choices are Georgia and the Arkansas valley and I'm not exactly thrilled about either of those.

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

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Pablo Nergigante posted:

Extremely cool that debtor's prisons are still a thing

Even worse fact: the rent thing isn't the only debtor's prison in Arkansas!!! https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2018/08/09/new-lawsuit-on-debtor-prison-practices-in-white-county-update

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Woof Blitzer posted:

JuSt OpEn ThE dOoR






Call the cops and let the cops shoot the dog, I hear they love doing that

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Ah yes the valuable service of sucking up 40% of your tenants' income.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
providing the valuable community service of claiming ownership over a thing and extorting the people actually using it with outsourced violent uniformed thugs

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010




Poe’s law?

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



I was late with my rent this month because I forgot about it over fourth of July weekend and I got a threatening letter about it. I got it resolved pretty quickly but the leasing office was disturbingly nonchalant about explaining they'd take me to court if I missed the fourteen day deadline.

I guess I'm just amazed we've had thousands of years of history and can't figure out the basic requirement to build holes for people to live in and occasionally gently caress.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


SardonicTyrant posted:

I guess I'm just amazed we've had thousands of years of history and can't figure out the basic requirement to build holes for people to live in and occasionally gently caress.

It's less that and more that we've set up a perverse system of incentives to be as bad at doing it as possible

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pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Jazerus posted:

even the best landlords in the world just can't resist seizing the security deposit, i have never gotten more than 50% back
I once moved out with the agreement to pay for cleaning the carpets out of my own pocket as it was cheaper than letting them do it, and they were going to inspect the place and then give me the deposit back based on the condition of the apartment. The next tenant visited while I was there, and told me in front of them that the carpets were fine, the whole place was fine, and they absolutely didn't want to wait for carpets to be cleaned (it was someone with a kid in a hurry for a place).

They gave me the whole deposit back but were not very happy about it.

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