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https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1150146344973033472?s=19 Part of a back and forth about wrestlers and coaches. Got a bit personal.
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The only thing with Nyla Rose and not mentioning that’s she’s trans is that it’s a lost opportunity to provide a role model to a younger person who needs someone to look up to, and also to help normalize it. Sonny talked about wanting to be a role model in one of the promo videos in the context of how he presents himself. That’s why I assume at some point it it will end up coming up, if Nyla wants to be that role model. Otherwise it doesn’t need to. I watched double or nothing and had no clue. I only found out because of here.
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Jul 13, 2019 23:27
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It's a tricky thing to handle from a PR perspective. Push it too hard and it can seem exploitative and insincere, but ignore it and it can come off like AEW is trying to hide her.
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MassRafTer posted:If you've ever wanted to hear Hulk's thoughts on his big WCW run well, he ignores most of it to make up stories about celebrities! I know Hogan loves to talk himself up, but I never would have thought he loved talking himself up so much that it would override talking himself up on another matter!
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Jordan7hm posted:The only thing with Nyla Rose and not mentioning that’s she’s trans is that it’s a lost opportunity to provide a role model to a younger person who needs someone to look up to, and also to help normalize it. Sonny talked about wanting to be a role model in one of the promo videos in the context of how he presents himself. That’s why I assume at some point it it will end up coming up, if Nyla wants to be that role model. Nyla has done some interviews about it and AEW should facilitate that kind of thing, but once it becomes a part of her onscreen character, it becomes way more complicated. Like remember how absolutely phony WWE trying to be body positive with Nia came off? Not that AEW would be that bad, but it's a really hard thing to do in an inherently carny business like wrestling.
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Jul 14, 2019 01:55
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Dave's story about working for Fox Sports for a week or two sure is something.
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Jul 14, 2019 15:36
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Alan BStard posted:https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1150146344973033472?s=19 I mostly like Lance Storm, but he seems to occasionally take weird things really personally. Like what Dave Meltzer thinks about bus trips or the concept of library books.
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Jul 14, 2019 16:30
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sprdelfin posted:I mostly like Lance Storm, but he seems to occasionally take weird things really personally. Like what Dave Meltzer thinks about bus trips or the concept of library books. Lance loves libraries, actually. I actually wonder how much road time Dave has logged because he did go on a couple van trips with the M-Pro guys before M-Pro existed.
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Why do people care if wrestlers make 350k without trans or 250k with trans? Can’t really say it cracks my top ten issues with the industry.
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mkay0 posted:Why do people care if wrestlers make 350k without trans or 250k with trans? Can’t really say it cracks my top ten issues with the industry. Ideally they shouldn't be getting the cost of transportation taken out of their check at all. But even if they are, having someone else handle transportation and lodgings is one less thing you have to do.
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mkay0 posted:Why do people care if wrestlers make 350k without trans or 250k with trans? Can’t really say it cracks my top ten issues with the industry. But also, loving circus performers probably don't have to worry about this poo poo. The ring crew definitely doesn't. People who do indie movies for scale don't have to worry about this poo poo. WWE has spent years telling us that WCW overpaid workers and gave them too many benefits an despite most of us agreeing that WWE is short-changing just about everybody they employ as in-ring performers, that lie has permeated more than we'd all like to admit.
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Jul 15, 2019 05:42
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But this was the best undercard of the weekend apparently! G1 Bias seeping in it seems Edit: Bryan getting backtalk from his iphone already means this off to a great start SatoshiMiwa fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Catching up on the previous WON and popped for the most Bryan/Dave exchange: B: Okay let’s do the G1 and, so we don’t run out of time, maybe let’s focus on the block matches? D: Okay. So, did Lance train Karl Frederickson?
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SatoshiMiwa posted:But this was the best undercard of the weekend apparently! Bryan knows his gimmick (ranting). Post Wrestling liked Extreme Rules: https://twitter.com/wai0937/status/1150727710328725504
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Black Saturday, baybee. https://twitter.com/BTSheetsPod/status/1150618209466421248
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LividLiquid posted:Dave, like most people of his generation, thinks of bigotry as a disease you have that exists independently of your actions rather than a way of describing things you do. I really appreciate your posts sometimes. They make me think about my own actions. That’s all I wanted to say. Carry on.
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Jul 16, 2019 14:47
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LividLiquid posted:I care because it's a symptom of not having collective bargaining, which would solve far more issues than just this one. I fully agree with you but Ringling Bros. also treated their employees like poo poo and they had to live on a train in tiny rooms. But yeah, there's a reason the only gripe mentioned that people left WCW over was feeling creatively stifled because they definitely covered pay and transportation in a way that WWE never will.
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Died laughing at Dave's "this is not a way to start a marriage!" line during the 24/7 segment recap.
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Are they covering this week's raw/nitro or are they skipping those?
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Is there a reason they would skip? The retro show comes out tuesday nights
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I thought I overheard something like that on the F4D show with Lance, they were talking about some Lance angle they wouldn't be seeing but they may well have been referring to Thunder.
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New Blood Rising, i think
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yea ok posted:New Blood Rising, i think Is that the one with Jacques Rougeau as ref for the Canadian rules match because that’s one of maybe two things on that show that I actually enjoyed when I watched it for the p.cast a few years ago.
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I hope the recap of the Cat challenging Scott Steiner from last week makes the 'Best of' because I don't think I've laughed that hard at a B&V segment since Bigelow was counted out of nowhere.
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PaybackJack posted:I hope the recap of the Cat challenging Scott Steiner from last week makes the 'Best of' because I don't think I've laughed that hard at a B&V segment since Bigelow was counted out of nowhere. I can't hardly remember a drat thing from the last year of WCW, but I remember that segment clear as a bell. It was awesome. The rare moments that Bryan enjoys something from a WCW recap are great.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:I fully agree with you but Ringling Bros. also treated their employees like poo poo and they had to live on a train in tiny rooms. It was clunky and if I had to do it over again I'd pick a different example. fart blood posted:I really appreciate your posts sometimes. They make me think about my own actions. 
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MassRafTer posted:Second to last episode on the Hogan bio! If you've ever wanted to hear Hulk's thoughts on his big WCW run well, he ignores most of it to make up stories about celebrities! That Jesse Ventura sure is a bitter man. Nothing as outrageous as the last,but thanks for a great podcast Hulkamatt!
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Incessant Excess posted:Are they covering this week's raw/nitro or are they skipping those? New B&V is out and they cover it. Bryan missed Raw because of his dentist visit so Vinny and Craig cover that (with a confused, distracted Bryan chiming in every so often) and then Bryan is fully back into it once they get to Nitro.
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Getting real loving sick of horny Craig
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Wazzu posted:That Jesse Ventura sure is a bitter man. Thanks, although I think him devoting a chapter to Hulkster in Heaven is pretty close to anything in the first half of the book.
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jesus WEP posted:Getting real loving sick of horny Craig Kimberly's outfit
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jesus WEP posted:Getting real loving sick of horny Craig LeT mE wRiTe ThAt DoWn *fake snort laughter* Seriously though he adds literally nothing to the show, it's objectively better in every way when he's not there.
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While I don't hate Craig I do agree he doesn't add anything and Lance is a much better 3rd (or 2nd) man for these recaps, and not just because he was right there for some of this insanity.
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I'm not subbed up to WON so all these comments about their podcast personalities are entertainingly cryptic.
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coconono posted:I'm not subbed up to WON so all these comments about their podcast personalities are entertainingly cryptic. fat man = horny boy
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Craig: I'm a good Christian boy who doesn't swear Also Craig: *gets cartoon wolf eyes every time he sees a woman on screen*
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MassRafTer posted:Thanks, although I think him devoting a chapter to Hulkster in Heaven is pretty close to anything in the first half of the book. Look that's pretty good, but my highlight on listening has to be his thoughts on potential casting by Stephen Spielberg. Also the idea of Hulk been trained to shoot for a full year before getting a new trainer who informed him pro wrestling is fake and he should work. jesus WEP posted:Getting real loving sick of horny Craig I thought he was explicitly there just because Bryan and Vinny need a break from just doing the podcast with each other? But there are better potential co-hosts out there.
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