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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

It doesn't NOT matter

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Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
On that St. Anslem poll, sometimes all you need is a smell test, and Bernie getting under 10% in NH is completely implausible. The cross tabs just show how they were able to get this impossible result.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017


hell yeah! i was kinda bummed out that Cardi B was going through what I perceived to be a libertarian phase

JesusSinfulHands
Oct 24, 2007
Sartre and Russell are my heroes
Never trust college polls that use decimal points

Here are everyone's Q2 fundraising numbers in one chart:

https://twitter.com/ActorAaronBooth/status/1150979579772854272

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

JesusSinfulHands posted:

Never trust college polls that use decimal points

Here are everyone's Q2 fundraising numbers in one chart:

https://twitter.com/ActorAaronBooth/status/1150979579772854272

Who the hell is throwing all this money away on Buttigieg?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



mcmagic posted:

Who the hell is throwing all this money away on Buttigieg?
Some of the richer donors like him

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

mcmagic posted:

Who the hell is throwing all this money away on Buttigieg?

Probably the usual suspects who are writing maxed out checks to two or three campaigns to hedge their bets. Add in that he comes across as smart and capable if you aren't paying too much attention and all the press he's been getting has given him the opportunity to source plenty of new donors.

I think it's likely he won't be getting as many new donors going forward, though I wouldn't be surprised to see a burst of new suckers after each debate (assuming he doesn't screw up or get kneecapped somehow).

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Yeah, remember that Pete has been going hard on the traditional high-dollar bundler circuit.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.


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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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As someone who generally likes Warren, her foreign policy is flat out terrible.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

I'm canceling cardi b right now, before she starts reading about Lenin.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Wow Wall Street is going Big on the Butt, what a craven lil gremlin of a man

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

https://twitter.com/laurenegambino/status/1151125077196509184?s=09

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

:d2a: devil nation

^ point still stands

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

kidkissinger posted:

hell yeah! i was kinda bummed out that Cardi B was going through what I perceived to be a libertarian phase

every libertarian turns out to be a socialist or fascist in the long run

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

As usual the quote misses important context -- Nernie's plan is to cut all diplomatic ties with Israel

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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What the gently caress he does have to gain from this? Don't do what Trump did isn't loving good enough?

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS
I support the Bern and think it's a bad position. I didn't post the tweet as a gotcha but to show that the tweet about Warren isn't real. I'm not sure what Warren's position is but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

why is this unreasonable of bernie to want a broader ME peace deal?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

mcmagic posted:

What the gently caress he does have to gain from this? Don't do what Trump did isn't loving good enough?

Bernie is sympathetic to Israel, just less so than his rear end in a top hat peers. That’s what he has to gain from it.

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:

mcmagic posted:

What the gently caress he does have to gain from this? Don't do what Trump did isn't loving good enough?

Bernie has consistently voted in favor of the various adventures of the Israeli government. But he probably just doesn't care about the issue that much.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

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Bernie probably has fond memories of israel from his Kibbutz days

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

The Glumslinger posted:

I think Texas Democrats liked him because he was the candidate in ages with a pulse. I have a lot of family in Texas and they were so happy to not have an obvious loser running for once.

if he was running against cornyn he wouldn't have done anywhere near as well as he did running against cruz. there's a visceral hatred for cruz among a lot of people, from republicans

like, as much as he impacted the downballot, it's important to remember that the downballot actually resulted in won races, which means he performed worse than people relying on voters to blindly hit the vote straight ticket option lmao

he cannot win the primary by just not being trump, and he's so loving afraid of taking a meaningful policy position he's done stunt after stunt like the ~road trip memoirs~ or declaring himself a descendant of a slaveowner in the hopes that the media will shuffle him to the top by exclaiming "woah this guy definitely is not trump"

it's like of jon ossoff jumped into the primary ring and showed up at every public appearance in his bad han solo costume

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

mormonpartyboat posted:

it's like of jon ossoff jumped into the primary ring and showed up at every public appearance in his bad han solo costume

At least Jon Ossof has spent his post-run career getting in sick anti-imperialist burns on Marco Rubio, which is infinitely more useful than anything that Beto has done lol.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

mcmagic posted:

What the gently caress he does have to gain from this? Don't do what Trump did isn't loving good enough?

The idea of the contiguously flowing foreign policy of the US, unbound by domestic partisan squabbles is a hell of a drug. A drug Donny views with the same benevolence as Jeff Sessions views marijuana.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014



This is dumb because Kirkland and Ellis is a massive law firm. It’s like how people were blasting Warren for “taking money from Google and Facebook” because some of their employees donated to her

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

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goethe.cx posted:

This is dumb because Kirkland and Ellis is a massive law firm. It’s like how people were blasting Warren for “taking money from Google and Facebook” because some of their employees donated to her

so what you are saying is that they are both bad?

Ornedan
Nov 4, 2009


Cybernetic Crumb

Typo posted:

why is this unreasonable of bernie to want a broader ME peace deal?

First up, what the gently caress even is a "broader ME peace deal"? Second, moving your embassy back out of Jerusalem is not really something you should be demanding concessions for. You should do it as a pre-negotiations display of going back closer to neutrality, rather than your current position of sitting firmly with Greater Israel expansionist psychos.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

goethe.cx posted:

This is dumb because Kirkland and Ellis is a massive law firm. It’s like how people were blasting Warren for “taking money from Google and Facebook” because some of their employees donated to her

yeah its just some humble employees faxing her :10bux: its not like sh-

quote:

Harris’ husband headlined a Chicago fundraiser for her presidential campaign that was hosted by six partners of that firm — Kirkland and Ellis, according to an invitation obtained by The Associated Press.
oh. well at least she was apologet-

quote:

Ian Sams, a Harris spokesman, said there wasn’t a problem with accepting the campaign contributions because the firm is big and the partners who hosted the fundraiser didn’t work on Epstein’s plea agreement.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Ornedan posted:

First up, what the gently caress even is a "broader ME peace deal"? Second, moving your embassy back out of Jerusalem is not really something you should be demanding concessions for. You should do it as a pre-negotiations display of going back closer to neutrality, rather than your current position of sitting firmly with Greater Israel expansionist psychos.

I'm going to put an embassy on the border of east and west Jerusalem and it will placate everyone.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


mormonpartyboat posted:

yeah its just some humble employees faxing her :10bux: its not like sh-

oh. well at least she was apologet-

And? They’re partners but there’s no indication they had anything to do with the Epstein case. I don’t see why this is hypocritical of her

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Ornedan posted:

First up, what the gently caress even is a "broader ME peace deal"? Second, moving your embassy back out of Jerusalem is not really something you should be demanding concessions for. You should do it as a pre-negotiations display of going back closer to neutrality, rather than your current position of sitting firmly with Greater Israel expansionist psychos.

returning the embassy to tel aviv - the actual seat of israeli government - should be step one prior to any negotiations. if moving it is somehow part of the negotiations, we're asking palestinians to make concessions just to undo idiotic poo poo trump did

and I agree, how is that going to possibly be part of a "broader ME peace deal" that solves the actual problems, like Israel's now-ally KSA's ongoing genocide in yemen

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

The correct answer to this is to keep the embassy there, but build an even bigger embassy to Palestine next to it.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

AlternateNu posted:

The correct answer to this is to keep the embassy there, but build an even bigger embassy to Palestine next to it.

this but unironically

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

goethe.cx posted:

And? They’re partners but there’s no indication they had anything to do with the Epstein case. I don’t see why this is hypocritical of her

you don't find it hypocritical to say raping children is bad while also taking money from the premier pro-child rape law firm?

or is this an unironic ~some bad apples~ situation as if these noble firm partners definitely harbor a secret shame about how much money their chosen firm made covering up the systematic rape of children, even if it's not enough shame to work somewhere else

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Kirkland and Ellis has over a thousand partners.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

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Discendo Vox posted:

Kirkland and Ellis has over a thousand partners.

this is some numbers fuckstain centrist defense poo poo

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

mormonpartyboat posted:

you don't find it hypocritical to say raping children is bad while also taking money from the premier pro-child rape law firm?

or is this an unironic ~some bad apples~ situation as if these noble firm partners definitely harbor a secret shame about how much money their chosen firm made covering up the systematic rape of children, even if it's not enough shame to work somewhere else

It's the usual thing where no lawyer can be held ethically accountable for their business and career choices, just widened a bit to cover for the hypocrisy of a politician who is benefiting monetarily from them.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
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Oh Snapple! posted:

It's the usual thing where no lawyer can be held ethically accountable for their business and career choices, just widened a bit to cover for the hypocrisy of a politician who is benefiting monetarily from them.

gently caress any lawyer who would defend any rapist

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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Typo posted:

this but unironically

I wasn't being ironic in the first place. :v:

Typo posted:

gently caress any lawyer who would defend any rapist

This has some crap implications, though. It is straight up antithetical to our entire system of justice. (Yeah, yeah. I know. Don't start that whole argument on how poo poo our system is in practice.)

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