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Tae posted:Four routes was so obvious that I'm surprised it counts as a points for the leaker. There's always some sort of true/alt route. The leaks that have mentioned the fourth route have said was another Edelgard route and wasn't the traditional 'best/true' route like Revelation or w/e. We'll see if that actually pans out.
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golden bubble posted:Sounds like that confirms the leak for about four routes for the game: If they make a hidden, unlockable route that is not the golden ending but instead the one where you enable a tyrant to kill everyone else and then have to kill her, too... mad respect. I wouldn’t mind a golden path, though. It would suck rear end if it were available at the start and there was just a clear correct choice to make. However, a central conceit of this game is that Byleth can see bad outcomes and then go back and fix them, and I think it would be neat if a New Game+ actually assimilated your first (successful) playthrough as a vision that Byleth was consciously using to steer things toward a better end.
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Jul 16, 2019 16:26
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Was No Grinding on hard mode mentioned before?
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Jul 16, 2019 16:34
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I'm not sure about the leak being correct about that Black Eagles getting two routes because of the mention of four games in one, which would imply the fourth route isn't just a choice made in one point of Black Eagles routes. I'm betting the fourth route is with the church.
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Jul 16, 2019 16:38
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Hunt11 posted:The final house video is up now. "As a fragile maiden, I am useless in battle" -murders a dude with an axe- Hilda is great. 
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Jul 16, 2019 16:54
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The Shortest Path posted:"As a fragile maiden, I am useless in battle" -murders a dude with an axe- Considering she critted the guy to death I think she is subtly asking you to help clear up the mess.
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Jul 16, 2019 16:56
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Zoran posted:I wouldn’t mind a golden path, though. It would suck rear end if it were available at the start and there was just a clear correct choice to make. However, a central conceit of this game is that Byleth can see bad outcomes and then go back and fix them, and I think it would be neat if a New Game+ actually assimilated your first (successful) playthrough as a vision that Byleth was consciously using to steer things toward a better end. I would enjoy this, but I would like it if the game just had 3 okay-ish endings for each faction. Let the player decide what ending/route they liked the most and let them decide which one they want their headcanon to be. ofc, that's a lot easier said than done. I wouldn't fault them if they made three bad endings and one good ending that you can get in NG+
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Jul 16, 2019 17:02
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not a bot posted:I'm not sure about the leak being correct about that Black Eagles getting two routes because of the mention of four games in one, which would imply the fourth route isn't just a choice made in one point of Black Eagles routes. I'm betting the fourth route is with the church. it can still split within the route to completely different scenarios
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Jul 16, 2019 17:03
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I wouldn’t be surprised at two Black Eagle routes just because it seems that Edelgard is the lord with the most marketing focus.
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Jul 16, 2019 17:14
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Has any information regarding the expansion pack with new stories and characters been revealed? Does it point to the existence of a 4th house?
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Jul 16, 2019 17:20
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Gamerofthegame posted:it can still split within the route to completely different scenarios Yeah that was my thinking as well. Since we know there are importart decisions in each route which can have a big effect on the plot, the leaker probably took one of those as a fourth route instead of a variation inside the Black Eagles route.
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Jul 16, 2019 17:29
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Meallan posted:Has any information regarding the expansion pack with new stories and characters been revealed? Does it point to the existence of a 4th house? We don't know but it's doubtful it's a fourth house given the pass price.
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Jul 16, 2019 17:40
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I'm very excited for Charlotte and Mitama's baby
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Jul 16, 2019 17:49
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Tae posted:Four routes was so obvious that I'm surprised it counts as a points for the leaker. There's always some sort of true/alt route. Except for the times there aren't, like in Sacred stones
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Jul 16, 2019 17:52
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Meallan posted:Has any information regarding the expansion pack with new stories and characters been revealed? Does it point to the existence of a 4th house?
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mandatory lesbian posted:Except for the times there aren't, like in Sacred stones
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Jul 16, 2019 17:55
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I really like the stated changes to classes. Seems like it'll fix a lot of the issues I had in other games, where I was constantly confused about stuff like when to change class, what to promote to, etc. Also the house to choose is very easy because Claude is obviously the best and the one to romance. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 18:07
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Yeah, safe bet on the last DLC being something like Future Past/Heirs of Fate/Rise of the Deliverance.
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Jul 16, 2019 18:08
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Endorph posted:The DLC season pass is only 20 bucks, and it includes four 'things.' Alt. costumes for Byleth, grinding dlc, Something, and 'new stories and characters.' Even if you're saying the fourth thing is 70% of the asking price, I really doubt they'd only charge like 12ish bucks for a full route. My guess would be that it's 3-4 maps either set during the original war or with the Flame Emperor and Reaper Knight as protagonists, and nothing in it actually carries over to the main game. Yeah, I also thought this would be the case. I had seen some speculation about it and am too removed from the fandom to know if it was based on a leak or just wishful thinking.
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Jul 16, 2019 18:15
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if anything its the opposite of wishful thinking. fates killed a lot of good will people had so now people are jumping at shadows whenever the idea of content comes up. there's probably four routes just because Game Design and also multiple sources have said there are, but there's no indication the fourth route is locked behind a paywall.
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Jul 16, 2019 18:22
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Do we know how many supports someone can have? Are we limited like GBA or can everyone do every support like Awakefates?
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Jul 16, 2019 18:55
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Hellioning posted:Do we know how many supports someone can have? Are we limited like GBA or can everyone do every support like Awakefates?
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Jul 16, 2019 19:04
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I wonder if the students poached from the other houses will have supports with the students in your chosen house.
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Jul 16, 2019 19:18
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I think cross-house supports have been seen in some of the support lists. I imagine all eight students in a house will support each other (and Byleth), and then they'll each have one or two supports in each of the other houses, so that they can always support with someone in your army.
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Jul 16, 2019 19:22
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SgtSteel91 posted:I wonder if the students poached from the other houses will have supports with the students in your chosen house. I think we already saw one student having supports with students from another house, but I can't find it again under the deluge of released information.
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Jul 16, 2019 19:22
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Torrannor posted:I think we already saw one student having supports with students from another house, but I can't find it again under the deluge of released information. It was in that German video that someone posted to show off that you can run around in your movement area like Warriors, rather than being limited to overhead control. The person flipped through a support list later on and, lo and behold, right below the first page (that conveniently perfectly fits their house + Byleth) was a support from another house.
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Jul 16, 2019 19:38
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Endorph posted:I really doubt they'd go back to limited supports, especially considering how small the cast seems to be relatively. That makes sense, but if only Byleth can S support, that means that we can no longer ship characters in game. Considering we've been able to do that for quite a while, to the point where three games have had it a as a central mechanic, it seems weird to me that they'd change that to entirely platonic supports. I mean, I guess you could say the same about the class system, but it seems like a drastic change.
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Jul 16, 2019 19:44
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"Rank A" doesn't have to mean anything about the nature of the relationship anymore.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:00
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Yeah, its entirely possible some A ranks might be romantic. We know they're playing with stuff like some supports having multiple conversations per rank, limiting some people to B rank supports etc so having romantic supports be represented in a new way wouldn't be crazy.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:02
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I suppose it it theoretically possible to have rank A be a romantic relationship and lock out all other A ranks and S ranks while simultaneously only allowing Byleth to S rank and allowing everyone to have unlimited supports, but that sounds guaranteed to annoy people who accidentally got their waifu dating someone else.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:02
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I mean if you can only do d ranks post timeskip i imagine itd be pretty easy to sort the whole thing out Who knows tho. Heck, im glad shipping seems to be mostly gone. Paired endings are cool but mechanically introducing a shipping chart is pretty exhausting and takes away from the actually fun part of shipping.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:05
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I'm thinking some A ranks might have some flirting or hints and it won't go beyond that.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:08
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Hellioning posted:That makes sense, but if only Byleth can S support, that means that we can no longer ship characters in game. When you have child units, shipping your units is a central mechanic. Since there are no child units in this game, s-rank supports are no longer necessary.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:22
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I'm not even wondering about S supports, I just want to know if I can ship people in game or if I have to write fanfiction to do that.
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Hellioning posted:I'm not even wondering about S supports, I just want to know if I can ship people in game or if I have to write fanfiction to do that. Like you’re not gonna write fanfic anyways.
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Jul 16, 2019 21:11
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True enough.
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Jul 16, 2019 21:13
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Again it'll probably be like the GBA games. Some pairings will have implied romance, some won't, a few will have explicit romance. And imo that's the best system. The grey area between implied and explicit romance is interesting, every male/female support pair having to be romantic is extremely restrictive (theres a reason awakening and fates almost completely lacked characters related to one another outside of the lords), and we both know they aren't going to write a ton of explicitly gay supports between side characters so the end result was that things wound up extremely hetero of the sexual, when earlier games usually at least had stuff you could read into, and even some stuff that was all-but-explicit, including paired endings.
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Jul 16, 2019 21:45
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I liked the option to set up the romances in Fates/Awakening, or at least preferred it to the Persona-esque harem situation where the protagonist chooses amongst a large number of "options." It helps to avoid the sense that everything revolves around the protagonist (which is pretty bad in games like the aforementioned Persona). Though having it never go anywhere other than the child units means I won't be terribly upset at losing it. I actually prefer the smaller casts, since I'd much rather have a smaller, more fleshed out cast than the giant ensembles from Fates/Awakening (I think Fates was even worse in this regard). With the latter I would constantly feel confused over who to level up, and would end up compulsively leveling up everyone. But the small cast also means there's less of an excuse to not have more involved social links than the "3-4 conversations" we got in the last couple games.
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Personally I'd prefer if there was no self-insert protagonist at all, but. Like obviously a game needs a main character and I don't mind the option to pick their gender/rename them but you can just, make them a normal character in the plot, not an extension of the player.
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Endorph posted:Personally I'd prefer if there was no self-insert protagonist at all, but. Like obviously a game needs a main character and I don't mind the option to pick their gender/rename them but you can just, make them a normal character in the plot, not an extension of the player. This is me tbh. I know people like to self insert and roleplay, but it always feels really awkward to me. Like, I named Mark after myself in my first FE7 playthrough and felt super awkward every time a character would turn to the screen and address me by name. Every time I S-support someone with Robin I turn away from the screen because characters looking me in the eye and telling me they’re in romantic love with me gives me severe secondhand embarrassment. And that’s me being a dork but still. It also makes it so that the Avatar can never be acknowledged to have screwed up so that the game doesn’t insult the player, which leads to a boring MC who never fucks up and has everyone kissing their rear end constantly. Which I know happens with other FE protags as well. As much as I love him and PoR, Ike gets out of way too many social faux pax by the power of being the protagonist. But it feels worse with Corrin because the narrative isn’t just kissing their rear end, it’s kissing your rear end as the player.
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