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Maybe they're just lovely people and we don't need to find an excuse for their behavior.
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Has anyone coined the term Trickle-down morality yet
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Ginger Beer Belly posted:https://twitter.com/DMRegister/status/1150132805403385856 He's only being charged with bringing in an harboring a foreigner, not with rape. That's why he doesn't think the latter was a mistake, I assume. quote:Amy Francisco and Cristobal Francisco-Nicolas face federal charges of “bringing in and harboring certain aliens.” The charges were filed in the Northern District of Iowa, though initial court appearance documents for both were filed July 11 in the Southern District of California.
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Lambert posted:He's only being charged with bringing in an harboring a foreigner, not with rape. That's why he doesn't think the latter was a mistake, I assume. Rape isnt generally a federal crime, unless they wanted to charge him with a Mann Act violation or something. Id expect Iowa to charge him with rape and kidnapping, though.
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Disney heiress... good? https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/media/abigail-disney-disneyland-undercover/index.html
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Yeah she’s been pretty decent for a while I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPDa8ZmBLgc
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Jul 16, 2019 20:06
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I forget the name of the video but she called bullshit on the idea that people like her needed a tax cut.
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The country has always been like this its just with the internet and drifting social norms stuff like this is finally getting called out. Our country built on abusing and violating those lower on the racial totem pole
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Jul 17, 2019 20:50
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yea there's no good billionaire but Disney Lady is at least on the list of 'least disgusting'
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Jul 17, 2019 23:30
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sexpig by night posted:yea there's no good billionaire but Disney Lady is at least on the list of 'least disgusting' Labor camp instead of guillotine ?
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ratbert90 posted:Labor camp instead of guillotine ?
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sexpig by night posted:yea there's no good billionaire but Disney Lady is at least on the list of 'least disgusting' Some of the most hardcore revolutionaries in the French and Russian revolutions were aristocracy themselves
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Jul 18, 2019 02:31
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When I am led to the guillotines I will say, "lol hell yeah good fuckin' job guys"
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Jul 18, 2019 02:35
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teacher_man posted:When I am led to the guillotines I will say, "lol hell yeah good fuckin' job guys" I will say “lol this owns”
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ratbert90 posted:I will say “lol this owns”
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ratbert90 posted:I will say “lol this owns” I will blink this out in Morse code as my severed head gasps for air
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Jul 18, 2019 03:16
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https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1151648699870789632 Can't wait.
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Feldegast42 posted:Some of the most hardcore revolutionaries in the French and Russian revolutions were aristocracy themselves
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Inferior Third Season posted:Most of the French ones eventually got the guillotine, anyway. Most of the hard core French revolutionaries got the guillotine, regardless of their background, and most of the Old Bolsheviks got shot. Revolutions tend to eat their own.
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YES! Maybe they can correlate it with this list: https://twitter.com/JaBogen/status/1109097735951663104
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Disney lady had a pretty interesting interview on NPR recently where she said that Disney itself is pretty much the last "shameable" company because the product they are selling you is warm fuzzy childhood feelings and things that damage that reputation directly impact their sales margin. She also countered the interviewer's mention of her philanthropy with "I want to live in a society where philanthropy is unnecessary." and lots of calls to raise taxes on the rich. She's good and cool and unfortunately has 0 control over the company.
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mistaya posted:Disney lady had a pretty interesting interview on NPR recently where she said that Disney itself is pretty much the last "shameable" company because the product they are selling you is warm fuzzy childhood feelings and things that damage that reputation directly impact their sales margin. She also countered the interviewer's mention of her philanthropy with "I want to live in a society where philanthropy is unnecessary." and lots of calls to raise taxes on the rich. She's good and cool and unfortunately has 0 control over the company. "I want to live in a society where philanthropy is unnecessary." is pretty much the best response to any capitalist whining about their charity.
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mistaya posted:Disney lady had a pretty interesting interview on NPR recently where she said that Disney itself is pretty much the last "shameable" company because the product they are selling you is warm fuzzy childhood feelings and things that damage that reputation directly impact their sales margin. She also countered the interviewer's mention of her philanthropy with "I want to live in a society where philanthropy is unnecessary." and lots of calls to raise taxes on the rich. She's good and cool and unfortunately has 0 control over the company. yeah she also dumped a company for loving over Palestinians. she seems to be pretty legit left wing and is trying to use her wealth and privilege for good instead of selfish evil. so thats good.
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teacher_man posted:When I am led to the guillotines I will say, "lol hell yeah good fuckin' job guys" I will ask "are you sure that thing is safe?"
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I will ask "are you sure that thing is safe?" "Buddy you could hurt someone with that" are real good last words
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"they couldn't guillotine an elephant at this dist-"
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"Whatcha gonna do, guillotine me?" I ask as they're shoving my head through the hole
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“I can take it.”
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Actual last words: https://www.geriwalton.com/last-words-during-french-revolution/Guillaume-Chrétien de Lamoignon de Malesherbes posted:Oh! Oh! voilà qui s’appelle un mauvais présage. Un Romain à ma place serait rentré. André Marie Chénier posted:Pourtant, j’avais quelque chose là!
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"Ahem. Better to be a man who-- uh...gently caress, what was the rest of that? No, I had something it was pretty good wait no please this can't be my last--"
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah she also dumped a company for loving over Palestinians. she seems to be pretty legit left wing and is trying to use her wealth and privilege for good instead of selfish evil. so thats good. Nah; anyone who is that wealthy and chooses to remain wealthy is still deeply immoral, even if they're willing to take a modest cut to that wealth. Nothing is stopping them from just giving most of it away themselves. The wealthy might sometimes seem like normal, decent people, but one should never forget that their existence is a non-stop series of decisions to not save/improve thousands of lives at no real cost to their own.
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Ytlaya posted:Nah; anyone who is that wealthy and chooses to remain wealthy is still deeply immoral, even if they're willing to take a modest cut to that wealth. Nothing is stopping them from just giving most of it away themselves. of course, you lean to hard into that, then you're just into libertarianism nothing to do with what you want to give away, you could give away 50-90% of what you are and not as efficient as what the government could do with those revenues
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Ytlaya posted:Nah; anyone who is that wealthy and chooses to remain wealthy is still deeply immoral, even if they're willing to take a modest cut to that wealth. Nothing is stopping them from just giving most of it away themselves. Never forget this excellent point. Someone with a billion dollars could give away 99.8% of his or her riches and still have 2 million dollars, ensuring that they'd never have to work for food, clothing, shelter, or child rearing ever again. The confiscated income is enough to pay 6700 people $15/hr for their labor for five years. The state University science building I work in cost $20m to build, that amount of money could build fifty such buildings. A billionaire is proof that this system has been broken in half. That level of resource control should be wielded by elected officials who are held accountable by checks, balances, and the people.
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Ray Dalio apparently recently said on 60 Minutes that "income inequality in the United States was a national emergency requiring reform". I don't know how he couched it, but all I can think of is a billionaire going I'M JUST ONE MAN, WHAT CAN I DO
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mycomancy posted:Someone with a billion dollars could give away 99.8% of his or her riches and still have 2 million dollars, ensuring that they'd never have to work for food, clothing, shelter, or child rearing ever again. Live the rest of their lives off a measly 2 mil? Are you kidding, have you not seen the budgets showing how tough it is for people making hundreds of grand per year to survive? The rich have it hard. I'm assuming poor people are fine as I never see their budget breakdowns.
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Yea, Disney Billionaire is one of the few ones who deserves some respect for using their platform and resources to push for a not-ghoul agenda but you can't ignore that she could literally load 99% of her wealth into a giant cannon and fire it out over America for anyone to grab and she'd still be richer than most everyone else, so let's not throw our shoulders out patting her back. Which in fairness is more a critique of capitalism as a whole than her as a person, to be clear. I'm sure she genuinely does want to do good things, she's made 'sacrifices' (heavily insulated to ensure she keeps her wealth but still) to help others and all, but the system itself is so toxic and ingrains the idea that by being Disney's grandkid she 'earned' her money and it's only fair she get to keep most of it that even good people often don't have the introspection to go 'oooooh, wait, I could fix like half these problems on my own just throwing my money at it. I can literally ball my cash up and hurl it at someone and fix some pretty major issues without needing to dance around with charity foundations and all'. sexpig by night fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jul 19, 2019 |
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sexpig by night posted:Yea, Disney Billionaire is one of the few ones who deserves some respect for using their platform and resources to push for a not-ghoul agenda but you can't ignore that she could literally load 99% of her wealth into a giant cannon and fire it out over America for anyone to grab and she'd still be richer than most everyone else, so let's not throw our shoulders out patting her back. She's good for a billionaire, yeah. Just emblematic of how individual action can't fix problems because even powerful individuals are trapped by the preconceptions and biases of the system they operate in.
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yea Flint is a great microcosm of it. How many wealthy people have made foundations and initiatives to help it when literally just one of them could just give a fraction of their wealth to local groups to just replace the pipes and they could entirely fund it? I don't doubt those people genuinely feel situations like Flint are horrific and need to be fixed, I don't doubt they want to help, but for some reason the answer of 'you could just slam dunk a big check into the city's hands and get the entire system replaced with not poison pipes and poo poo' gets treated like it's silly cloud cookoo land stuff.
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sexpig by night posted:yea Flint is a great microcosm of it. How many wealthy people have made foundations and initiatives to help it when literally just one of them could just give a fraction of their wealth to local groups to just replace the pipes and they could entirely fund it? I don't doubt those people genuinely feel situations like Flint are horrific and need to be fixed, I don't doubt they want to help, but for some reason the answer of 'you could just slam dunk a big check into the city's hands and get the entire system replaced with not poison pipes and poo poo' gets treated like it's silly cloud cookoo land stuff. “I want them to be happy and healthy and all, but you can’t possibly expect those kind of people to know how to do it, they need my firm and kind hand to guide them”.
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