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Xelkelvos posted:A number of Elseworlds were What If...?s though like Speeding Bullets or whatever the Batman who becomes a GL one is. I suppose I think of What If...?s as being standard continuity up to a turning point, where Elseworlds' changes are deeper. As I think about it though, it's not really a distinction borne out by facts. Just look at JLA: Act of God (do not, actually, look at JLA: Act of God). In general, Wonder Woman didn't get nearly enough Elseworlds; on a quick count there's three, and one of them's Superman/Wonder Woman: Whom Gods Destroy and I've heard that one called the worst Elseworlds. It's a shame, I think there's a lot of fun stuff you could do with a Wonder Woman Elseworlds. I also wish we'd gotten that weird fantasy Green Lantern Elseworlds.
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catlord posted:Superman/Wonder Woman: Whom Gods Destroy and I've heard that one called the worst Elseworlds. quote:Superman is transformed into a woman... Superman, Lois (now the new Wonder Woman) and Lana all live together on Superman fortress on the moon in polyamorous love.
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Is Wonder Woman Amazonia any good? My friend loves the pop figure I got for her.
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catlord posted:I suppose I think of What If...?s as being standard continuity up to a turning point, where Elseworlds' changes are deeper. As I think about it though, it's not really a distinction borne out by facts. Just look at JLA: Act of God (do not, actually, look at JLA: Act of God). The Nail is definitely a What If..? What if Ma and Pa Kent ran over a nail and didn't find Kal-el I'm throwing that in spoilers because I think it was a twist. If you like Elseworlds I think it's pretty decent.
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The Nail is one of the best Elseworlds. The sequel is only so so.
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How is The Green Lantern? Saw the first trade is out.
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Rhyno posted:The Nail is one of the best Elseworlds. The sequel is only so so. Agreed on both counts. Alan Davis naturally makes both very pretty, though.
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I thought the new Batman started this last leg off pretty well. We could have just time-jumped to this point after 50 instead of going through all the Knightmare stuff, but whatever. It's given me hope he'll pull off an entertaining ending. Even the mandated Year of the Villain Luthor gift epilogue was good. Anyway, Brian Azzarello/ Emanuela Lupacchino Birds of Prey announced, https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-unveils-new-birds-prey-comic-october-1224765  Also featuring Renee Montoya to round out the movie tie-in cast.
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blast0rama posted:How is The Green Lantern? Saw the first trade is out. Weird, man. Has a pulpy sci-fi feel. I like it a lot, but it’s pretty subjective.
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Dawgstar posted:Agreed on both counts. Alan Davis naturally makes both very pretty, though. Superboy's Legion is also very pretty.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Anyway, Brian Azzarello/ Emanuela Lupacchino Birds of Prey announced, Aw. I guess it would be a stretch to have Cass bounce between LA and Gotham(?).
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That was exciting for a moment until I scrolled down to see Harley Quinn. No thanks.
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Can someone correct me on this but wasn't Azz attached to do a Suicide Squad comic ages ago?
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Madkal posted:Can someone correct me on this but wasn't Azz attached to do a Suicide Squad comic ages ago? As far as I know that never made it past the rumor phase, although one of them said he was going to have Wally on the team.
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Madkal posted:Can someone correct me on this but wasn't Azz attached to do a Suicide Squad comic ages ago? Seems like they promised Azz some big bucks for a book adjacent to one of their movies, and are pivoting to BoP.
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I still love Azzarello’s Wonder Woman regardless of the recent revisionism that’s been happening over that run. If we get Azz’s Wondy level as opposed to Azz on Killing Joke in terms of BoP quality then I’m all for it. I would’ve preferred Azz on Suicide Squad though.
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Rhyno posted:The Nail is one of the best Elseworlds. The sequel is only so so. The Nail sequel has one bit I like and that is the follow up to "The Joker is MURDERED" which is... he goes to Hell and promptly becomes a massive pile of trouble because of course he does, it's a comic book universe and killing someone doesn't make them go away unless they are a minority side character.
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Azz shouldnt be on a bop book but im fine with harley being on the team
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Azz will do good. His Wonder Woman had a great ensemble cast. Give the Suicide Squad to Ellis.
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It still baffles me that people praise Azzarello Wonder Woman. That poo poo was so freaking antithetical to Wonder Woman.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:It still baffles me that people praise Azzarello Wonder Woman. That poo poo was so freaking antithetical to Wonder Woman. Eddie Campbell's Deadface was good enough that we could enjoy watching it regurgitated, at least for a while.
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You'd think that readers might wise up to "What if thing you know...but grim and dark????" as a narrative device at some point, and yet here we still are. edit: Fraction's Jimmy Olsen is amazing y'all BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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BrianWilly posted:You'd think that readers might wise up to "What if thing you know...but grim and dark????" as a narrative device at some point, and yet here we still are. Is dex-starr still involved?
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X-O posted:That was exciting for a moment until I scrolled down to see Harley Quinn. No thanks. She really is the anti-excitement drug I need to keep me form spending money on a book, so thanks DC!
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Whatever happened to that art camp Sean Gordo Murphy was running out of his house?
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So I just read the Wonder Twins comic and it's kinda hosed up that the end basically says "actually, terrorism is good as long as the terrorists are well-intentioned" but then I guess I don't know what I was expecting from a Mark Russell joint.
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Wonder Twins also says people tend toward selfishness unless incentivized to care about one another due to the Lex Luthors of the world rigging economic and justice systems to put as many people on the bottom social rung as possible, but yes, "terrorism good," that was basically it.
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I mean, I get it, but also, it's a hosed up ending and not in a good way, imo
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Aren't there are six more issues coming down the pipeline? The series was originally scheduled for six but got an extension.
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Jayna (the closest thing to a POV character) doesn't admonish Zan for taking it to the JL to bust up, so she's conflicted in the end. The main lesson it's teaching the kids is cynicism towards rich and powerful adults, institutions and corporations, which is all good by me! Space Fish posted:Aren't there are six more issues coming down the pipeline? The series was originally scheduled for six but got an extension. Yup. That and Dial H get extended, but there's a break till September. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jul 19, 2019 |
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TwoPair posted:I mean, I get it, but also, it's a hosed up ending and not in a good way, imo It's a hosed up ending because good things happening because humanity was being pushed to the brink was averted at the last moment and presumably many of those good things will go undone and the world will return to its horrible self. Calling it "Terrorism" is basically a perspective thing just as the lines for "Freedom fighter," "Revolutionary," "Patriot," and "Traitor" are all sort of relative to where you stand with a revolution. Particularly with broad and massive political change. It's a hosed up ending, but only to people who aren't already well aware of the despondent state of the world and the relative hopelessness of single individuals pushing for slow gradual change against the monolithic forces of capital and national governments. The whole random switch thing is very True Communism Now sorts of stuff since everyone would want as equal an economic status as possible as any existing inequality might mean getting switched into it and it'd be better to be equal to everyone than poorer than everyone despite the opposite possibility also being equally likely.
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TwoPair posted:So I just read the Wonder Twins comic and it's kinda hosed up that the end basically says "actually, terrorism is good as long as the terrorists are well-intentioned" but then I guess I don't know what I was expecting from a Mark Russell joint. This is 100% true though. Terrorism is just a tactic, it’s not inherently good or evil in and of itself.
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TwoPair posted:So I just read the Wonder Twins comic and it's kinda hosed up that the end basically says "actually, terrorism is good as long as the terrorists are well-intentioned" where is the lie?
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If I’m putting together the (not terribly subtle) clues on Mitch Gerads Twitter correctly, the next Tom King/Mitch Gerads collaboration is...ADAM STRANGE.
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And...confirmed. With Doc Shaner!?! https://www.twitter.com/dccomics/status/1152941759602671617
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blast0rama posted:And...confirmed. With Doc Shaner!?! This is going to be about his war crimes again. 
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I love Adam Strange. I love King's work on lesser known characters. I am rather tentative about this. I would love a sci to space romp full of silver age goofery. I am worried that this will be not that.
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