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DELETE CASCADE posted:so does firing people though? yeah but what if you’ve already done that and the people remaining are critical / cash positive
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CLASS 2 PERVERSION posted:as opposed to walking literally 2 minutes? oh, NICE
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DELETE CASCADE posted:so does firing people though? it may sound shocking to americans but in europe you generally cannot fire people on a whim i'm sure brexit will take care of that though
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i work in finance and yeah there’d be a revolt if the bonuses didn’t come. we also have this weird thing where our pay review is done in the summer and backdated to the start of the year, so you get a summer “bonus” as well in the form of backpay
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jesus WEP posted:i work in finance and yeah there’d be a revolt if the bonuses didn’t come. we also have this weird thing where our pay review is done in the summer and backdated to the start of the year, so you get a summer “bonus” as well in the form of backpay A friend worked somewhere where if they wanted to fire you they would say "you're not getting a bonus this year but if you were to happen to quit we'll pay you x amount severance" where x was roughly what you might have expected your bonus to be.
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pointsofdata posted:A friend worked somewhere where if they wanted to fire you they would say "you're not getting a bonus this year but if you were to happen to quit we'll pay you x amount severance" where x was roughly what you might have expected your bonus to be. this sounds like an excellent system
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CLASS 2 PERVERSION posted:as opposed to walking literally 2 minutes? Ok that's fair then.
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you should consider giving more than two weeks notice if you are in a position where not doing so would materially hurt people below you in the company do not do so if it would only cause problems for people above you
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Plorkyeran posted:you should consider giving more than two weeks notice if you are in a position where not doing so would materially hurt people below you in the company literally that's never the case
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:literally that's never the case it is not uncommon for managers to be responsible for ensuring that the people who report to them don’t get hosed on raises/bonuses
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:literally that's never the case yeah this. 2x if you work a blue collar job at another company i saw someone at the director level give only two weeks which seems like a big gently caress you if there wasnt some behind the scenes agreement
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fighting the urge to quit before new job secured, I’d get paid out eight weeks of leave and if I give eight weeks notice then that’s 16 weeks of runway before I have to touch savings. I’m a bit too risk adverse to do it though I think.
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4 months is a long time but it's shorter than you think. Get the job first.
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Not a Children posted:4 months is a long time yeah I know, it’s just toys out pram fantasy at the moment. they are merging our business so my work for the next six months is stuff I know will be thrown away but has to be done to maintain our seperate p&l till then.
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alternatively it's still a hot market and gently caress your employer. if you have a burning desire to get out, youll be okay, gently caress them alternatively alternatively, quit in your brain, just completely and utterly gently caress off your current job and continue 'showing up' until you have a better offer
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:alternatively it's still a hot market and gently caress your employer. if you have a burning desire to get out, youll be okay, gently caress them at my last job i was working 1-3 hour days (but of course in the office for 8 hours) and that's still draining if you dislike the job. honestly if you have touched computers for a while and have extra savings, you can just choose to not work for a while. gently caress waiting til retirement for that
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:fighting the urge to quit before new job secured, I’d get paid out eight weeks of leave and if I give eight weeks notice then that’s 16 weeks of runway before I have to touch savings. I’m a bit too risk adverse to do it though I think. i threw my toys out of the pram and quit at the start of may. the last few months i was there was one of the most miserable times in my life and i have never looked back at all and my life now is the opposite. everything is lovely now. as of now i can still live for a few months without running out of cash but the idea of not having a job in 6 months time when i really need it was stressing me out too much, so i'm back looking for stuff to do now. I guess it depends how bad it is. maybe make a big chart on the wall where you mark how bad it is day to day.
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Pie Colony posted:at my last job i was working 1-3 hour days (but of course in the office for 8 hours) and that's still draining if you dislike the job. honestly if you have touched computers for a while and have extra savings, you can just choose to not work for a while. gently caress waiting til retirement for that for myself, doing nothing at work and just reading wikipedia articles or whatever is a great way to make every day feel as long as a week
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Jul 17, 2019 10:21
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hobbesmaster posted:it may sound shocking to americans but in europe you generally cannot fire people on a whim In Britain you can already fire people on a whim within their first two years of employment (because you can't go to an employment tribunal until then). Thank you New Labour, Tories and Liberal Democrats!
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CLASS 2 PERVERSION posted:i threw my toys out of the pram and quit at the start of may. the last few months i was there was one of the most miserable times in my life and i have never looked back at all and my life now is the opposite. everything is lovely now. as of now i can still live for a few months without running out of cash but the idea of not having a job in 6 months time when i really need it was stressing me out too much, so i'm back looking for stuff to do now. it isn't bad in any aggressive way, there's no bullying etc and I'm well paid. its more just insane decision making, and the delicious combination of 1. constant organisational crisis mode locally + 2. glacially slow Japanese decision making globally. oh well, first interview phone screen tomorrow and I've hit up my network.
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C Hiring S: If you provide an acquaintance's resume to HR or another department as a suggestion for a position (seekin that referral bonus), make sure to follow up with them, because hiring/that department may either drop it on the floor or never get back to you (and you want that referral bonus) Turns out a resume I provided a completely different department for a friend got missed because the head was on vacation, followed up, now they probably have an interview soon
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CLASS 2 PERVERSION posted:yeah i am effectively a child so find it hard to get excited about pension. for reference the role is a functional scala role in london, 57k base + 10% bonus + whatever pension contributions. hmmmmm none of my jobs in the uk have ever included pension within the base salary, it's always been £xxk base and then whatever% the organisation adds on as a pension contribution (though usually you're expected to sacrifice a defined % to get the whatever%) if the org doesn't specify a defined pension scheme this means the gross salary you're offered will get a 5% haircut into the government NEST scheme and your employer will put in another 3% as its contribution
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got an offer for my first computer touching job 
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:got an offer for my first computer touching job Congratulations! Now you can decline before you realize that computer touching for a living is terrible!
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feedmegin posted:In Britain you can already fire people on a whim within their first two years of employment (because you can't go to an employment tribunal until then). Thank you New Labour, Tories and Liberal Democrats! Unlike the US where you can get fired for any reason at any time, even for no reason at all!
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:got an offer for my first computer touching job this was done without the benefit of nepotism or cronyism btw and i do not recommend it
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still waiting on an official offer from these fucks. it's been 15 days since my references responded to their inquiries. Got told to expect something soon last Wednesday so I reached out Friday and got this response: "Happy Friday! I'm very sorry for the slowness on our end - I'm still waiting for things to be approved from HR/Finance. I'll reach out (via email) as soon as I have an update for you! " this is hella frustrating. i'm still sending out applications and have two tech screens this week but anxiety over this offer coming in is affecting me negatively. should i reach out again today, friday, never?
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Sounds like they are just being slow. I wouldn't read to much into it but do keep looking for other positions
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:fighting the urge to quit before new job secured, I’d get paid out eight weeks of leave and if I give eight weeks notice then that’s 16 weeks of runway before I have to touch savings. I’m a bit too risk adverse to do it though I think. bear in mind that quitting your job makes it harder to negotiate a higher wage at your next job
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:alternatively it's still a hot market and gently caress your employer. if you have a burning desire to get out, youll be okay, gently caress them I've had two jobs where I probably spent 6 hours a day at work playing dungeon crawl and looking for new jobs. It was terrible and draining in its own way although I got pretty good at the game.
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yard salad posted:I've had two jobs where I probably spent 6 hours a day at work playing dungeon crawl and looking for new jobs. It was terrible and draining in its own way although I got pretty good at the game. yeah its always a lot worse than it sounds on the surface, but it is a viable option for a while
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Yeah I had a job where I could do the 8 hours of work in 2 and I read a shitload of books working there. It still loving sucked
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that’s what oldjob devolved into before I broke down, yeah. no internet at desk so it was either books or gently caress off elsewhere (and really obviously not working at that time as a result) work sucks as a rule but feeling unproductive and useless sucks way more
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:yeah its always a lot worse than it sounds on the surface, but it is a viable option for a while yeah. I spent all my time at epic after my sabbatical before leaving for Apple like this and while I caught up on END ME SCOOB'S sword of truth thread in that time (thanks for your service scoob) it was incredibly tedious and more stressful than just putting effort into a mismanaged project.
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Share Bear posted:C Hiring S: If you provide an acquaintance's resume to HR or another department as a suggestion for a position (seekin that referral bonus), make sure to follow up with them, because hiring/that department may either drop it on the floor or never get back to you (and you want that referral bonus) i referred a goon about a year back and had to follow up multiple times to get him through. we were using a new tool that was silently dropping candidates without anyone realizing. weee
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bout to see if amzamom gonna fly my wife and i out for a nice weekend in seattle
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Shaman Linavi posted:nice weekend in seattle lol
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ratbert90 posted:Congratulations! Now you can decline before you realize that computer touching for a living is terrible! computer touching may be terrible on its own but if you’ve got to sell labor it’s impossible to beat KidDynamite posted:"Happy Friday! I'm very sorry for the slowness on our end - I'm still waiting for things to be approved from HR/Finance. I'll reach out (via email) as soon as I have an update for you! " you may be their second choice and they are waiting to hear from their first. or their hiring process just sucks, like all hiring processes. annoy them periodically but don’t wait up for them.
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The best way to avoid that problem is to never get past the submitting resume stage.
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