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FairGame posted:Nothing posted in response to this is wrong, per se, but I think basically what happened is this: Yeah I will admit that as much as Long War is probably a better balanced game, XCOM 2 is definitely a more fun game to watch: I find myself skipping ahead on Long War LPs just because there's so much downtime compared to 2 (at least on missions, it seems that the time between missions in the war room is days at most). Still, I'm glad to have the patience to see how this plays out: I've only ever played Enemy Unknown and it's fun to see all the little tweaks this mod brings to the table. P.S. please don't get me killed for my insolence 
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So did that overwatch trap happen because the dropped Exalts were active and they just went "Better overwatch because there is nothing to shoot at"? Also a brutal showcase why CCS is busted when you can just park your dude in the middle of the enemy.
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It's only busted because you can keep exalt from instantly murdering you. It's still insanely useful but it's still early game.
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Jul 16, 2019 08:25
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CCS: great for killing things that cannot shoot you efficiently. Bad at keeping you actually safe from getting shot point blank.
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mortons stork posted:I'm sorry, I hope you did not take that personally. I would like to reiterate that your campaign is the only campaign of long war that I have ever found watchable, and I follow it with interest. I am, in fact, not a fan of Beaglerush's '1h30m-2h per mission as he counts tiles and edits out jack poo poo' and much prefer your approach, even if it can get you punished
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Zernach posted:So did that overwatch trap happen because the dropped Exalts were active and they just went "Better overwatch because there is nothing to shoot at"? 
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For rocket scatter can the rocket hit any point within the scatter range of the target, even if it wasn't a valid target in the first place? What about the case of shooting a rocket through a window near to the shooter? Can scatter cause it to hit the window right next to you?
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It can scatter to points you couldn't have specifically aimed at, yeah. Including going further than your supposed maximum range. On the other hand, the way it works is by picking the detonation point and then flying straight there; it will slice through anything in the way without exploding.
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Zernach posted:Also a brutal showcase why CCS is busted when you can just park your dude in the middle of the enemy. The equivalent skill in XCOM2 is similarly hilarious, especially since the game telegraphs where the next wave of Advent chumps is going to drop in.
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Yeah, scatter can make your rocket hit stuff that was theoretically impossible. A fun thing the game likes to do is shift up/down in elevation when you're targeting, and if you click at precisely the wrong time, the rocket you were about to launch into a pack of floaters way downfield will instead just slam into the wall in front of your front line. That's the closest I'll come to reloading in what is a de facto ironman campaign. Omnicrom posted:The equivalent skill in XCOM2 is similarly hilarious, especially since the game telegraphs where the next wave of Advent chumps is going to drop in. It's hilarious until one of the advent chumps is a purifier, anyway. I mean, it's arguably even more hilarious when that happens, but it's very upsetting at the same time!
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FairGame posted:Yeah, scatter can make your rocket hit stuff that was theoretically impossible. I'm assuming you know this (and it won't help much against the specific problem you mentioned anyway) but: for targeting grenades and rockets I find it better practice to press Enter instead of clicking. It makes it less likely that I ever-so-slightly jerk my mouse, and the movement is simpler/more blunt, making it easier for me to make sure the press happens at the exact moment I want it to happen. To click my mouse I have to ever-so-gently bend my finger at an angle, whereas pressing Enter can take the full perpendicular force of my clenched fist  (slight hyperbole).
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Really the problem is that the devs thought it would be fun and cool to let you free-target grenades, so that you have to hunt for the one individual pixel where it lands right, squeezed between 3 other pixels where you bounce it off of a mote of dust gently wafting through the air and vaporize your entire team.
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 I had to cut this video short prematurely because I had to go run in a charity 5k. Anyway, nothing interesting happens the rest of the mission--the squad handles one lone pack of stragglers just fine, and then things turn over into the next month. Brazil left the council, of course. We launch satellites over India (for the Asia "New Warfare" bonus that gives -25% cost in $, elerium, and alloys on foundry projects) and the United States (for extra $, and also for the country bonus that gives -25% time on interrogations and autopsies.) Eating Only Apples got sent on an EXALT covert op at the start of the month as well--a 16 movement scout is EXTREMELY useful so long as I don't get grenaded to death. But the next video will pick up with an abduction in Australia.
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Vid's a touch laggy, not sure why. e: it looks like it was just at the start of the vid, it's all good now. ee: what was KW's tech sergeant pick? I forget how you were building her out. Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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Grapplejack posted:Vid's a touch laggy, not sure why. Vital Point Targeting (+2 damage vs. humans, and any alien unit you’ve autopsied.) There are some ranks of sniper where I can see it being a tough choice, but tech sergeant isn’t one of them. Platform Stability and Executioner both lend themselves to In the Zone builds, but snipers have such high aim that the bonus aim from the skill is irrelevant, and I would rather have two more damage in all cases vs. 10 percent more crit chance.
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<---- Fuckin mission MVP, right here. I need a mixture of  and 
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MAY SUMMARY Other than a moment that cost us Pash ( Pash), this was a very good tactical month. The air game got a little weird and we got lucky with a couple of failed raiders--the aliens can have their own on scouting missions, apparently. June's gonna be a monster, but we're well positioned. The only mistake I really got punished for was that overwatch trap that put Scalding Coffee in medbay for half the summer, but at least it was an entertaining learning experience.Notable Soldier Stuff: We finally got officers, whose "stay frosty" ability at lieutenant will come in handy since June/July tend to have obscene amounts of missions. We're also almost at 115 total promotions, which will let us get Squad Size II. The goal here is to not get anyone killed (even more than usual--I'll play conservatively for a couple missions just to make sure I can get the needed promotions) so that we can get a squad of 8. We're also starting to get some all-star caliber units. kw0134 is probably the first such unit, as a sniper who started with high aim and has rolled high aim on seemingly every promotion. Now that I have the United States autopsy speed bonus, kw0134 should be able to regularly one-shot things thanks to hitting tech sergeant and getting vital point targeting. Eating Only Apples, as a 16 mobility scout, is another great soldier in the making. Problem there is two-fold: first, covert operatives tend not to live very long--it only takes one stray grenade to ruin things. Second, even if they do live that long, they don't get (m)any kills, which means they take forever to level up. Oh, and now that we have officers, suddenly Megane's garbage willpower doesn't matter quite so much. And as a mobile turret with high aim, that's another very good unit. Notable Base Stuff: We've got power to build stuff now! And we've started in on our workshop block even while our lab block is looking...ok-ish. Getting the Asia foundry bonus is nice, though it'll be nicer when we start actually doing foundry projects. And, honestly, there's a good chance that we lose a satellite in Asia this month--alien resources are still high, and I can't afford to spam interceptors anymore. But still...things are fine here. Notable Research: We've got laser tech for everyone, which is a big deal, and smooths out the garbage aim that much of the early game is plagued with. In all likelihood, we're not going to be one-shotting anything (other than maybe kw0134) with lasers on non-flanks. But having all lasers available is nice, and we're thisclose to a meaningful armor upgrade, too. I rolled the dice a little bit on the EXALT introduction and it paid off. Had EXALT hacked my improved body armor research with like 1-2 days left, it would've set our research game back like a full week. And that matters quite a bit right now since June 30/July 1 is our drop-dead date for critical stuff. Notable Air Game: We got lucky here a few times, with UFOs coming that we couldn't respond to, but nevertheless failing to do any damage. We've got a ton of planes, but they're still all stingray-equipped. That's not good enough, and most of the birds are damaged to start the month, too. Getting some more laser cannons onto interceptors will help a ton, but we've gotta figure out a weapon installation schedule because it takes 7 days to arm a weapon that isn't avalanche/stingray missiles. Goals for June: Squad Size II as soon as possible. Build maybe half a dozen laser cannons and get them installed on interceptors, staggered throughout the month. Get advanced body armor built and rolled out to the squad. Maybe an Alloy SHIV too; I dunno. If we can figure out a way to get the foundry's "improved medkits" rolled out before month's end, that'd be nice too, but who knows?
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FairGame posted:suddenly Megane's garbage willpower doesn't matter quite so much My therapist said that too 
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Now THAT is the long war air game I recognize! e: I can't believe i'm still in medbay. I should be ready by the next mission though, looks like. I forgot how loving long a hit could down someone. Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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I hope those laser cannons tip the balance in the air war. I also wonder how "Ship of Theseus" each plane will be by the end.
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Seeing the 70 accuracy on those Laser Cannons sure explains why you really really want them, not having to rely on dice as much like we just saw will be wonderful.
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I like some of the nicknames we've been getting. Angel Ted & Princess Badger sound like a great comedy duo. e: and you can't forget Arcade Llama Dancer fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Okay I feel slightly bad for complaining Delacroix was meant to be the French-est name possible, and that one time you said Adeline like the English word "line" when it was meant to be like the word "lean". Rolling the r is an optional extra.
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Dancer posted:I like some of the nicknames we've been getting. Angel Ted & Princess Badger sound like a great comedy duo. Nicknames are random iirc so they just happen with no rhyme or reason that I'm aware of. If they're connected to some kind of variable other than class, I'm not aware of it. It's definitely a missed opportunity sadly.
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I'm so glad our shivvy boi is finally getting some airtime.
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Ditto. I guess it's difficult to work out when's the right time to break out a SHIV, too early and I guess you might be missing out on opportunities to level up your weaker soldiers, and if you're too late I assume they drop in effectiveness? And there I was thinking "surely you don't need quite so many planes"...
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Even if EXALT is nothing but a GI Joe villain you can definitely see how those missions can go terribly wrong.
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If we did prove that France is not the base of EXALT, due to the intel from our first encounter, why are we still going there? Is that just RNG?
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Scalding Coffee posted:If we did prove that France is not the base of EXALT, due to the intel from our first encounter, why are we still going there? Is that just RNG? It’s just RNG. Where EXALT cells pop up has nothing to do with their HQ.
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So the best way for civvies to live is if the aliens decide to charge your squad
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kw0134 posted:So the best way for civvies to live is if the aliens decide to charge your squad Better than charging the aliens.
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