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Galaga Galaxian posted:Me playing WHM: Same
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Jul 18, 2019 02:01
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i got A Art made https://twitter.com/countblanc/status/1151608948673454081
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Jul 18, 2019 02:13
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Good art.
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Jul 18, 2019 02:15
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Eden spoilers: Totally a missed opportunity for Starboard and Larboard Landslide
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Jul 18, 2019 02:32
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Congrats dude. I always liked your Lala's look whenever I ran past you in Kugane or whatever.
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Jul 18, 2019 02:36
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MechaX posted:Eden spoilers: Totally a missed opportunity for Starboard and Larboard Landslide I think there was a mandate to never again use fancy names for left and right if the mechanic comes out quickly. Which is terrible.
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Jul 18, 2019 02:37
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Can anyone give me a quick overview of what I need to focus on for new DRK? It looks deceptively simple which means I tend to assume I'm missing out on something. I'm assuming I should be treating the new Darkness attacks basically as something I weave in while saving 3000 for Darkest Night in situations needed and otherwise bleeding myself dry?
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Jul 18, 2019 03:14
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Speaking of macros, I've been leveling WAR and just got Nascent Flash which seems really awkward to use since you have to stop what you're doing, target a party member, cast it, target back to the mob and the duration is only a couple of seconds. Would this be a good case for some sort of targeting macro? The effect seems bonkers though, that's gotta be a lot of self-healing during AoE. Really WAR in general just feels like it gets more fun the higher level it is, even more than other jobs I've played. Stuff like generating beast gauge when AoE'ing is locked behind level 74 which just makes the job feel kind of incomplete before you get it (but great when you do!) This is the first time I'm leveling a tank since my first character (way back, also WAR but only got to 40-something) and I'm really enjoying the tank changes, it's like I'm playing a DPS except I want to get hit!  Another tank related thing that I really love but haven't seen anyone mention is the fact that almost all the bosses in Shadowbringers have a cast bar for their tankbuster, giving you time to react and pop cooldowns. Why the rest of the fights in the game don't do this, I will never understand.
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Jul 18, 2019 03:19
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Something like that would indeed be a good candidate for a macro, yeah. Something like /ac "Nascent Flash" <2> Similarly, when DRG's Dragon Sight was still an action in PVP I totally used a macro for it there while in the feast. (Actually, I'm curious if Dragon Sight is used with a macro in PvE or not) CuddlyZombie fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 03:27
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Your Computer posted:Speaking of macros, I've been leveling WAR and just got Nascent Flash which seems really awkward to use since you have to stop what you're doing, target a party member, cast it, target back to the mob and the duration is only a couple of seconds. Would this be a good case for some sort of targeting macro? I set mine to /ac "Nascent Flash" <2> which is either my co-tank or my healer. It's not ideal but it works well enough for basic mitigation and for when I actually need to target I still have it available
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Jul 18, 2019 03:30
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Yeah, it is truly only useful if you're the off tank and you're using it on the main tank so either creating a macro that casts on the 2nd person or your focus target makes sense.
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Jul 18, 2019 03:44
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CuddlyZombie posted:Something like that would indeed be a good candidate for a macro, yeah. Something like /ac "Nascent Flash" <2> I have Dragon Sight, TBN, and A. Manip set on vertical bars immediately next to each partymember. I've never touched PvP though.
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Jul 18, 2019 03:56
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ImpAtom posted:Savage is like "and Leviathan had t.. no! No, THREE heads. And Titan combined with Brute Justice to form Brute Titan and it had the best theme song ever. "You think the wandering minstrel can embellish a fight? You ain't seen nothing yet" and thus we bear witness to the first doom.
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Jul 18, 2019 03:56
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And my alt makes it onto the bandwagon.
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Jul 18, 2019 04:16
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ImpAtom posted:Savage is like "and Leviathan had t.. no! No, THREE heads. And Titan combined with Brute Justice to form Brute Titan and it had the best theme song ever. Leviathan then later grew to have eight heads. Everyone takes a goddamn tank buster.
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Jul 18, 2019 04:25
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ImpAtom posted:Can anyone give me a quick overview of what I need to focus on for new DRK? It looks deceptively simple which means I tend to assume I'm missing out on something. I'm assuming I should be treating the new Darkness attacks basically as something I weave in while saving 3000 for Darkest Night in situations needed and otherwise bleeding myself dry? You should use TBN whenever you'll deplete it for a free oGCD of damage. Every tank buster, big pulls, etc.
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Jul 18, 2019 04:27
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Gumball Gumption posted:Yeah, it is truly only useful if you're the off tank and you're using it on the main tank so either creating a macro that casts on the 2nd person or your focus target makes sense. /macroerror off /target <2> /target <c> /target <f> /ac "Nascent Flash" /micon "Nascent Flash" /targetlastenemy this macro will cast it on either the 2nd party member, your chocobo companion (for fates) or your focus target, with the focus as priority if you have one, and then instantly put you right back on the mob you had targeted. also, i got a fat paycheck this week and you know what that means 
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Jul 18, 2019 05:06
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ImpAtom posted:Can anyone give me a quick overview of what I need to focus on for new DRK? It looks deceptively simple which means I tend to assume I'm missing out on something. I'm assuming I should be treating the new Darkness attacks basically as something I weave in while saving 3000 for Darkest Night in situations needed and otherwise bleeding myself dry? For MP use this works fine for standard content. You mainly want to hit Living Shadow, Inner Re- er Delirium, and Blood Weapon on cooldown but you want to make sure you get 5 GCDs off while Delirium and Blood Weapon are active so you have to make sure you activate them when the GCD is 2/3rds finished or so. It's suggested to aim for enough skillspeed to get a 2.38 GCD to make getting 5 GCDs in the 10 second windows easier but it depends on your ping ultimately. Now if you're in raid content and running with a Ninja MP usage gets relegated to pooling everything (without over capping MP) for Trick Attack and then double weaving every GCD during those 10 seconds it's up to dump your MP on EoS and every oGCD you can and then basically waiting for 60 seconds to do it all over again. It's terrible and I'm honestly kinda glad my static doesn't have a Ninja so I don't have to deal with this even if it means I'll never get super high parses. Edit: Oh, and for large trash pulls in dungeons TBN gets shifted to your main priority for your MP usage as long as it'll break. Pyramid schema fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 05:06
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If you wanna be good at DRK you gotta be good at TBN. TBN is the most useful tool in the DRK toolkit and being able to recognize tank busters or any attacks that'll consume the full TBN is key to being good DRK. In fact, if you're able to ensure that your TBN is always consumed by enemy damage and it's rarely off CD you're basically playing DRK as optimally as possible. The damage that you put out isn't great, but nobody else gets such a cool, reactive, and useful ability. Plus having a rip and tear button is really visceral and nice. Too bad about losing the Dark Passenger and Power Slash animations though, they were really cool.
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Jul 18, 2019 05:20
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jokes posted:Too bad about losing the Dark Passenger and Power Slash animations though, they were really cool. Yeah, but at least DRKs aren't WAR, stuck with the complete garbage that is the Storm's Path animation
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Jul 18, 2019 05:22
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Namnesor posted:Yeah, but at least DRKs aren't WAR, stuck with the complete garbage that is the Storm's Path animation that one's not great but I really don't like the mythril tempest animation. it sucks
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Jul 18, 2019 05:29
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the new gnb sound effects are pretty bad, it feels like you're constantly missing every attack
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Jul 18, 2019 05:41
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Kaubocks posted:part of what i really like about the eden raids is it fits my own dumb head canon for my character Eden becomes a lot funnier if you assume half of it is just WoL trying to show off to Ryne. "Yeah I totally killed that! I do it all the time one the source!" Meanwhile Urianger's just stonewalling them and Thancred's trying real hard not to laugh. EponymousMrYar posted:A lot of that and it's Rapture aesthetic comes from the fact that it's currently at the bottom of the ocean. Personally I was getting some real strong Kingdom Hearts 3 cover art vibes the whole time I was there. MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 05:53
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Jul 18, 2019 06:23
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World War Mammories posted:that one's not great but I really don't like the mythril tempest animation. it sucks 
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Jul 18, 2019 06:37
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I've been recently introduced to the joys of EX fights, and the pugging thereof. As much as I want to see 4 strangers die to mechanics simultaneously on Titania Ex again, I'd like to actually clear the fight before savage Eden opens, and I know at least a few goons are in the same situation. To that end I'm trying to organize a group of goons + whoever else we need for a Titania Ex clear party this Sunday at 9PM EST. Please have at least two hours available! What this means for you: be ilvl430+ (preferably with your ilvl440 weapon), have seen up through the end of the add phase, and if you've been stuck there please make sure you know about the combo mechanics that follow. There are still plenty of learning parties up in PF, so if you haven't actually seen the fight in person yet and want to join the clear party just go sit in one for an hour or two. I will be dpsing as MNK, and currently there are 3 dps, 2 healer, and 2 tank spots available. I'll try to keep this post updated when people sign up. If you want to join in, either PM me here or on the Catgirl Bargains discord (Smith Comma John). IGN: Drizz'ette Do'Urden@Excalibur
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Jul 18, 2019 06:37
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Kaubocks posted:the new gnb sound effects are pretty bad, it feels like you're constantly missing every attack Honestly sounds like hitting a thick piece of cardboard with a hammer, it's really off putting
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Jul 18, 2019 06:40
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Pyramid schema posted:Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point but TBN is DPS neutral at best. It should absolutely be used for tank busters but using it everywhere you can (especially nearly on CD) isn't really 'optimal' if it's not saving healer GCDs. Heavy AoE attacks come to mind as healers aren't going to care if your TBN stopped any damage as they'll still have to heal up the rest of the group anyway. Uh tbn being consumed by damage gives you juice to turn into damage. That’s the whole point of what they were saying. If it isn’t being consumed it’s not peak efficiency for drk.
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Jul 18, 2019 06:41
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Uh tbn being consumed by damage gives you juice to turn into damage. That’s the whole point of what they were saying. If it isn’t being consumed it’s not peak efficiency for drk. You don't gain damage from it though compared to using the MP for an attack. It's absolutely good to use it any time it'd break/you don't need it in the next 15s for a tankbuster though. (I'm still used to it giving a bloodspiller though which felt better to me for whatever reason.)
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Jul 18, 2019 06:44
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Uh tbn being consumed by damage gives you juice to turn into damage. That’s the whole point of what they were saying. If it isn’t being consumed it’s not peak efficiency for drk. But using it when it won't save a healer GCD (such as when they're AOE healing anyway) makes it no better (and no worse) than using that same MP for an attack. That's the point: there's no reason to keep in on cooldown as much as possible. Maybe no reason not to in some cases, but it's certainly not the key to being a good DRK. Clarste fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 06:48
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Using TBN properly is a DPS gain in a very specific scenario and generally DPS neutral otherwise. The DA buff you get when the shield breaks doesn't have a timer. Thus you can stock a DA and have 9000+ MP and then dump 4 Edge of Shadows instead of 3 during most raidwide buff windows. This is incredibly minor but it's there. TBN shines compared to other tanks' mitigation because the effective health it gives you in absorbing hits means that in most cases the requisite healing to bring you to parity compared to Sheltron, Raw Intuition, or Heart of Stone is much less.
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Jul 18, 2019 06:49
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Pyramid schema posted:Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point but TBN is DPS neutral at best. It should absolutely be used for tank busters but using it everywhere you can (especially nearly on CD) isn't really 'optimal' if it's not saving healer GCDs. Heavy AoE attacks come to mind as healers aren't going to care if your TBN stopped any damage as they'll still have to heal up the rest of the group anyway. TBN, if used correctly, is a better value proposition than just using a MP attack since it costs the same and frees up the healer to do damage (assuming they're not honest). So, if you're smart you'll recognize when you can TBN and have it be consumed, and you'll always do that as much as possible. This conserves healer MP and keeps them glaring. There's not much reason to TBN raid damage, but fully consumed TBN on auto attacks and junk like that are where the good dorks are separated from the also good dorks who otherwise just TBN tank busters. The bad dorks are any dorks that let a TBN fall off, unconsumed. Like finding an abandoned, full beer at a party, an unconsumed TBN is a great tragedy.
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Jul 18, 2019 06:56
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i miss 4.x dark knight a lot; current drk feels really one note and empty
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Jul 18, 2019 06:58
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I wouldn't say I missed 4.x DRK but yeah new DRK feels very... unfinished. Compared to PLD or GNB, DRK feels like it's missing a whole other mechanic.
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Jul 18, 2019 07:00
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DRK lost a lot of little resource management. Previously, there were multiple different ways to have MP/blood income that made upkeep a bit more interesting in making sure that everything was ticking properly. Spending those resources is pretty much the same as it is now, except Delirium. Also, two of the more fun (IMO) ogcds have been changed to both be less often and less rewarding. Blood Weapon no longer grants haste and Salted Earth got nerfed in both damage and cooldown. I can understand the simplification of the resource management, since that was a general theme of ShB overall, but nothing was really given to compensate DRK for that loss. My personal dream is some sort of mechanic that grants a bonus if you choreograph and sync up with Living Shadow. Like a super finishing move that Living Shadow will do if you match 3 of its moves before it proceeds to the next in its rotation. Or absorbing the Living Shadow back into yourself for a super state briefly.
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Jul 18, 2019 07:10
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Kerrzhe posted:/macroerror off Shortcut: code: macros) on the first valid target in the list.<tt> is "target of target" and to catch any last exceptions. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 07:14
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to each their own and maybe it’s better on non-roes, but to me it lacks weight. your character doesn’t move, the axe just swirls like a baton. in contrast, with overpower you shift your weight and slam forward, and I miss the steel cyclone animation, how you leaned into it, etc
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Jul 18, 2019 07:18
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Hyper Inferno posted:DRK lost a lot of little resource management. Previously, there were multiple different ways to have MP/blood income that made upkeep a bit more interesting in making sure that everything was ticking properly. Spending those resources is pretty much the same as it is now, except Delirium. Also, two of the more fun (IMO) ogcds have been changed to both be less often and less rewarding. Blood Weapon no longer grants haste and Salted Earth got nerfed in both damage and cooldown. I can understand the simplification of the resource management, since that was a general theme of ShB overall, but nothing was really given to compensate DRK for that loss. The big thing from messing with it a bit is it feels both MP and Blood generate a lot slower, the blood bit is somewhat replaced with delirum but the MP speed makes it feel slow to me. I get that they don't want it to be as fast as old DRK or GNB and this may be a better design for most people though.
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Watching a streamer do MSQ and it turns out you can actually shoot the Crystal Exarch during the dwarf shooting gallery, at which point he says "If you're entertaining the thought of knocking off my cowl, know that it will not work." 
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