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qhat posted:

Submitting resumes is a good problem to have

Assuming it's not because of apathy with the whole process.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 00:42

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# ? May 28, 2024 13:04

TimWinter: Mar 30, 2015; https://timsthebomb.com

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 01:40

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

lmao I would extend him an offer anyways. That dude has some gusto.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 02:06

Asleep Style: Oct 20, 2010

TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

I should have done this because our testing is loving abominable

# ? Jul 18, 2019 02:14

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 02:23

qhat: Jul 6, 2015

TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

This is me except in my head

# ? Jul 18, 2019 02:25

Ciaphas: Nov 20, 2005; > BEWARE, COWARD

qhat posted:

This is me except in my head

right?

# ? Jul 18, 2019 02:26

KidDynamite: Feb 11, 2005

TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

that's some stone cold poo poo.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 02:28

barkbell: Apr 14, 2006; woof

did an application yesterday for a large polling, consulting, assessment firm. part of the application was a 45 minute personality assessment. now i have an interview scheduled for tomorrow with them and i looked up interviews on glassdoor for this company and it seems like its just a hell of personality assessments all the way down.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 04:24

KidDynamite: Feb 11, 2005

so my recruiter's boss reached out to me because the recruiter is on pto. she's calling me today at 2pm with "good news" now to make it till then without telling my director(who put me on pip for refusing to work weekends and is onsite from head office) smdftb during the team meeting today.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 13:51

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KidDynamite posted:

so my recruiter's boss reached out to me because the recruiter is on pto. she's calling me today at 2pm with "good news" now to make it till then without telling my director(who put me on pip for refusing to work weekends and is onsite from head office) smdftb during the team meeting today.

pip pip cheerio

# ? Jul 18, 2019 14:00

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 14:42

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TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

holy poo poo

# ? Jul 18, 2019 15:14

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TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

amazing

# ? Jul 18, 2019 15:33

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

KidDynamite posted:

so my recruiter's boss reached out to me because the recruiter is on pto. she's calling me today at 2pm with "good news" now to make it till then without telling my director(who put me on pip for refusing to work weekends and is onsite from head office) smdftb during the team meeting today.

... suck my dick gently caress this bitch?

# ? Jul 18, 2019 15:52

Not a Children: Oct 9, 2012; Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

TimWinter posted:

I interviewed someone today who asked me, rapid fire, questions about our testing stack and then retracted his offer mid interview. His reason was "your stack isn't wrong, but it's more trouble than it's worth to maintain".

I've never been so owned interviewing someone in my life.

Beautiful

# ? Jul 18, 2019 16:03

Asleep Style: Oct 20, 2010

pathetic little tramp posted:

... suck my dick gently caress this bitch?

I think the kids say from the back these days

# ? Jul 18, 2019 16:21

KidDynamite: Feb 11, 2005

140k!!! no signing bonus, 20% annual bonus plus rsu's

what does that translate to in figgies?

Asleep Style posted:

I think the kids say from the back these days

correct!

edit: also i tried to negotiate way too passively by asking if there was any wiggle room and got shut down. should have been direct and said i'd like 150. they are emailing me the offer though so maybe i can try via email that way my dumb mouth doesn't gently caress it up.

KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Jul 18, 2019

# ? Jul 18, 2019 20:27

elite_garbage_man: Apr 3, 2010; I THINK THAT "PRIMA DONNA" IS "PRE-MADONNA". I MAY BE ILLITERATE.

Grats on the new offer and for leaving your old lovely boss.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 20:33

Blinkz0rz: May 27, 2001; MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

KidDynamite posted:

140k!!! no signing bonus, 20% annual bonus plus rsu's

what does that translate to in figgies?

correct!

edit: also i tried to negotiate way too passively by asking if there was any wiggle room and got shut down. should have been direct and said i'd like 150. they are emailing me the offer though so maybe i can try via email that way my dumb mouth doesn't gently caress it up.

you done good congrats

# ? Jul 18, 2019 22:32

asur: Dec 28, 2012

At least ask for a signing bonus to cover the bonus you're losing by leaving mid-year.

# ? Jul 18, 2019 22:38

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

KidDynamite posted:

140k!!! no signing bonus, 20% annual bonus plus rsu's

what does that translate to in figgies?

correct!

edit: also i tried to negotiate way too passively by asking if there was any wiggle room and got shut down. should have been direct and said i'd like 150. they are emailing me the offer though so maybe i can try via email that way my dumb mouth doesn't gently caress it up.

that's a good base but no signing bonus is bs. my base is close to that and I got a 25k signing bonus.

how big is your initial rsu grant and what is the vesting schedule?

# ? Jul 18, 2019 23:24

KidDynamite: Feb 11, 2005

jit bull transpile posted:

that's a good base but no signing bonus is bs. my base is close to that and I got a 25k signing bonus.

how big is your initial rsu grant and what is the vesting schedule?

there's no initial value provided for rsu grants and the vesting schedule is 25% every year and they're granted in april. so 1 year 8 months before i see any of that.

i think i def should try to negotiate for higher base or at least a hefty sign on. just going to word it nicely as possible something like "with the responsibilities of the role and the value i am bringing blah blah blah i would feel more comfortable with 150k base"

is that reasonable?

# ? Jul 18, 2019 23:50

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

KidDynamite posted:

there's no initial value provided for rsu grants and the vesting schedule is 25% every year and they're granted in april. so 1 year 8 months before i see any of that.

i think i def should try to negotiate for higher base or at least a hefty sign on. just going to word it nicely as possible something like "with the responsibilities of the role and the value i am bringing blah blah blah i would feel more comfortable with 150k base"

is that reasonable?

how is there no initial value? is the stock not worth anything? my first rsu grant was worth 105000 bucks

# ? Jul 19, 2019 00:09

KidDynamite: Feb 11, 2005

jit bull transpile posted:

how is there no initial value? is the stock not worth anything? my first rsu grant was worth 105000 bucks

I know what the stock is worth but not how much they're planning on giving me.

# ? Jul 19, 2019 00:28

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

KidDynamite posted:

I know what the stock is worth but not how much they're planning on giving me.

negotiate the size of the grant then. you should not be accepting an offer with any aspect of your comp unspecified. no signing bonus and no guarantee of signing grant amount is shifty as hell.

# ? Jul 19, 2019 00:31

asur: Dec 28, 2012

KidDynamite posted:

there's no initial value provided for rsu grants and the vesting schedule is 25% every year and they're granted in april. so 1 year 8 months before i see any of that.

i think i def should try to negotiate for higher base or at least a hefty sign on. just going to word it nicely as possible something like "with the responsibilities of the role and the value i am bringing blah blah blah i would feel more comfortable with 150k base"

is that reasonable?

You're effectively working for 8 months without the RSU portion of your compensation which is atrocious. If you don't need this job I'd ask for a signing bonus that is worth the bonus amount that is prorated plus the value of 8 months of RSUs.

# ? Jul 19, 2019 00:40

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

It's likely a bonus under the form of a RSU, are you sure that's not what the 20% they mentioned as a bonus?

# ? Jul 19, 2019 00:41

KidDynamite: Feb 11, 2005

MononcQc posted:

It's likely a bonus under the form of a RSU, are you sure that's not what the 20% they mentioned as a bonus?

the 20% is an annual bonus that can be modified based on company and individual performance. so there's an rsu grant and annual bonus. but those are both a little too nebulous for me.

# ? Jul 19, 2019 01:23

PIZZA.BAT: Nov 12, 2016

KidDynamite posted:

140k!!! no signing bonus, 20% annual bonus plus rsu's

what does that translate to in figgies?

you�re basically at p dece six and a half figgies. grats. next level is 6.5 figgies at roughly $320k

# ? Jul 19, 2019 04:38

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

had my interview Wednesday, finally, after applying in March. now just waiting to hear, supposed to know next week.

# ? Jul 19, 2019 12:36

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

place i'm interviewing at has decided to add an on-site interview halfway across the country which is news to me!

I think they always intended to do an on-site, but they forgot to tell me apparently?

I'm half-thinking I should just give it the ol' Dwight Schrute and be like "Look, you've interviewed 3 guys, 2 of them sucked but you're too nice to tell them no. And then you interviewed me who figured out how your codebase was costing you 100 extra dollars a month just from your codepen example. Do you want to waste time and money flying me out there or are you going to hire me? Hire me, do it now. 3. 2. 1. Hire me. Do it."

# ? Jul 19, 2019 18:08

KidDynamite: Feb 11, 2005

145k with a 5k signing bonus! Got some help from my cousin-in-law who is a HR consultant. she wrote a way better email than what i intended to send.

lessons learned: never give a number first, always negotiate.

# ? Jul 19, 2019 18:40

qhat: Jul 6, 2015

Grats. Did you get the RSU stuff clarified?

# ? Jul 19, 2019 21:37

Arcsech: Aug 5, 2008

KidDynamite posted:

lessons learned: never give a number first, always negotiate.

this is the real poo poo right here

# ? Jul 19, 2019 23:46

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

KidDynamite posted:

145k with a 5k signing bonus! Got some help from my cousin-in-law who is a HR consultant. she wrote a way better email than what i intended to send.

lessons learned: never give a number first, always negotiate.

i mean, you can give a number first, if it seems like the right move

it just often isn't the right move

definitely never, ever, ever get bullied into giving a number first. give a number when, and if, necessary

never give a number to recruiters or hr before the interview. it can only hurt you at that point. the time to talk numbers is after everyone has got acquainted face to faec

# ? Jul 20, 2019 04:04

barkbell: Apr 14, 2006; woof

landed an onsite with that company on monday. they want me to take another online personality assessment this weekend, then do an onsite tech assessment, and apparently during the interview will do an in person personality assessment based on the results of my other assessment. fuckin hell this is a lot of work

# ? Jul 20, 2019 15:10

elite_garbage_man: Apr 3, 2010; I THINK THAT "PRIMA DONNA" IS "PRE-MADONNA". I MAY BE ILLITERATE.

They're gonna give you one of those Harry Potter personality quizzes to find out what house you belong to so they can put you on the appropriate team.

# ? Jul 20, 2019 15:13